Learning Tex?

Raynman · 2012-02-17 10:22:33

latexmk can be useful too.

FreeTheBee · 2012-02-17 10:28:19

I don't actually do things manually, I was merely trying to point out why a compilation can take a bit longer sometimes I use vim-latex, which automates the process.

kyla · 2012-02-20 01:06:43

Theoretically using latex should make your documents look nicer, because unlike word or html, it will automatically go for the least bad option regarding stretching, whitespace, etc. (Sorry, I'm failing to come up with a better way to explain that.)

Trilby · 2012-02-20 02:06:53

I'm happy to announce my mind has been (mostly) changed. I've played around with latex a bit, and have found it to be great. As it has many options, and can be a bit "loud", I just had to learn how to tell it to "shut up and make my damn pdf". There is still much to learn, and I still have a concern based on what I've read in reference to embedding SVG images in documents. If anyone does this regularly good info would be appreciated. It seems that first converting the svg to a .ps intermediate may be necessary - I'm not much of a fan of that option.

cfr · 2012-02-22 22:01:25

You can often automate conversion of graphics files, if necessary. Whether this helps will depend on what bothers you about the conversion, of course. For example, people often set up a rule to automatically convert .eps when using pdflatex. Presumably you can do the same with other conversions, too.

dlin · 2012-02-25 16:33:31

I think the Tex's weak point is if you use different tex tool or different configure, it may cause errors.
I have experience to use latex writing my paper about 20 years ago. But the tool set is different now.
I try to make https://github.com/miekg/gobook recently.
I've followed the author guide to install packages. Unfortunately, those name are Ubuntu/debian packages.
I installed Archlinux's packages ghostscript,inkscape,gnumeric,ttf-droid,ttf-dejavu,ttf-sazanami,texlive-most,texlive-langcjk instead.
Wish it could be easy compile, but it is not so easy.

Here is the make log, I'm wonder is that mean I require install other package?
Or, that's caused by wrong style file.
I just use default ArchLinux texlive and the document source checkout from github.

$make                                 
( cd fig; make all )
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dlin/prj/golang/ref/gobook/fig'
inkscape --export-pdf=pointers.pdf pointers.svg
pdfcrop pointers.pdf output.pdf && mv output.pdf pointers.pdf
PDFCROP 1.32, 2011/08/10 - Copyright (c) 2002-2011 by Heiko Oberdiek.
==> 1 page written on `output.pdf'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dlin/prj/golang/ref/gobook/fig'
touch .fig
( cd tab; make all )
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dlin/prj/golang/ref/gobook/tab'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dlin/prj/golang/ref/gobook/tab'
touch .tab
rm -f go.tex && ln -s go_a4.tex go.tex
xelatex go.tex && bibtex go && makeindex go \
&& xelatex go.tex && xelatex go.tex
This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-0.9997.5 (TeX Live 2012/dev/Arch Linux)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./go.tex
LaTeX2e <2011/06/27>
Babel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, ge
rman-x-2011-07-01, ngerman-x-2011-07-01, afrikaans, ancientgreek, ibycus, arabi
c, armenian, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danis
h, dutch, ukenglish, usenglishmax, esperanto, estonian, ethiopic, farsi, finnis
h, french, galician, german, ngerman, swissgerman, monogreek, greek, hungarian,
 icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada, malayalam, marathi, or
iya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, kurmanji,
 lao, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, bokmal, nynorsk, pol
ish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, serbianc, slovak, sloven
ian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded
.
(./blocksbook.cls
Document Class: blocksbook 2006/06/10 v0.1 Layout with blocks
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/carlisle/scalefnt.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/memoir/memoir.cls
Document Class: memoir 2011/03/06 v3.6j configurable book, report, article docu
ment class
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/ifetex/ifetex.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/ifetex/ifetex.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/ifxetex/ifxetex.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifluatex.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/etex-pkg/etex.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/memoir/mem10.clo)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/memoir/mempatch.sty)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/tools/calc.sty)
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/latexconfig/color.cfg)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/xetex-def/xetex.def))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/latexconfig/graphics.cfg))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty)
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3file.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3skip.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3keys.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3fp.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3box.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3coffins.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3color.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3luatex.sty))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse/xparse.sty)
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* fontspec warning: "cm-default-obsolete"
* 
* The "cm-default" package option is obsolete.
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-patches.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fixltx2e.sty))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-xetex.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/euenc/eu1enc.def)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/euenc/eu1lmr.fd))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/xunicode/xunicode.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/tipa/t3enc.def
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/euenc/eu1lmss.fd))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.cfg)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/xltxtra/xltxtra.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/metalogo/metalogo.sty))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/exercise/exercise.sty)

Class memoir Warning: You are using the caption package with the memoir 
(memoir)              class. This may cause unexpected or inconsistent 
(memoir)              results if you use any of memoir's captioning facilities.


(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/caption/caption.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/url/url.sty) (./listings.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/listings/listings.cfg))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/relsize/relsize.sty
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(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/cjk/texinput/mule/MULEenc.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/cjk/texinput/CJK.enc))

! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
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Last edited by dlin (2012-02-25 17:10:15)

karol · 2012-02-25 17:00:19

dlin, please edit your post.
When pasting code, please use [ code ] tags https://bbs.archlinux.org/help.php#bbcode

like this

It makes the code more readable and more convenient to scroll through.

fsckd · 2012-02-25 17:08:25

Hello dlin, you accidentally sent your comment to the moderators via report. Do not worry, it happens now and and then to someone.

dlin wrote:

tks. Just modified

In reply to karol, about 8 minutes ago.

perseus · 2012-02-26 12:09:54

I have been a lawyer (a barrister here in England), first as an academic and later as a practitioner all my life. I have been about 11 years full-time on linux now, and I am proud to have seen enormous developments in our software and its useability in the "outside world". So far as this country is concerned however (I cannot speak for others), word processing for practitioners has remained dominated by Word format. You will not make yourself popular with clients by telling them (however respectfully), that you don't use it. One recent helpful development is the wider use of pdfs, which mean that one is not so worried about the revision history of a document being discovered - you really don't want anybody to read your draft versions. Just my 10 cents (well 10 pence actually ).

Trilby · 2012-02-26 12:29:24

Apparently some people send word .doc versions of their resumes to potential employers.

Beyond the fact that emailing tends to butcher line spacing and make resumes look horrendous, apparently (according to a collegue who uses word) the "view track changes" settings is automatically activated whenever she opens a .doc she gets in email.

Sure, letting a potential employer see every variation and edit you made to your resume has an honest transparency to it, it most often gets that resume quickly filed in the electronic waste-basket.

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