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#26 2012-03-30 18:22:26

digitalone
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

Solved with new version, but I still get the following messages:

Fri Mar 30 10:26:25 2012: Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC272" "HDA:10ec0272,1179ff82,00100001" "0x1179" "0xff00"
Fri Mar 30 10:26:25 2012: Hardware is initialized using a generic method
Fri Mar 30 10:26:25 2012: Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "ATI R6xx HDMI" "HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100100" "0x1179" "0xff80"
Fri Mar 30 10:26:25 2012: Hardware is initialized using a generic method

What does it mean?

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#27 2012-03-30 18:50:11

tomk
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

victhetailor wrote:

when X's broken, wifi's broken

That's a choice you made, and I'd strongly recommend that you change it. There is absolutely no reason for your wifi connection to depend on X.

digitalone wrote:

Solved with new version, but I still get the following messages:

yadda yadda yadda,,,,

What does it mean?

Start a new thread for that - it's a totally unrelated sound issue.

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#28 2012-03-31 02:33:58

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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

PhilipWitte wrote:

Just wanted to weigh in on this. Yesterday my machine broke with the same problem: "Xorg error, No server found." but I knew that if I just gave it some time the Arch guys would have it fixed smile Glad to see that this morning I was correct, and that the people responsible for the package now have updated knowledge on how to keep future updates stable. I'm a new Arch user, and you may think this is an odd time to sing it's praise, but I think this situation is actually a tribute to Arch and community driven rolling release software. Bugs are inevitable in all software design, what's important is how those issues are discovered and dealt with. Thanks to everyone involved in getting us ATi users back online so quickly.

I just wanted to second this sentiment: bugs are invetitable in any system; a (less than?) 24-hour response with a fix to a bug is virtually unheard of, except in arch.  Great work devs/maintainers.

Last edited by Trilby (2012-03-31 02:34:11)


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#29 2012-03-31 11:53:13

victhetailor
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

tomk wrote:
victhetailor wrote:

when X's broken, wifi's broken

That's a choice you made, and I'd strongly recommend that you change it. There is absolutely no reason for your wifi connection to depend on X.

I never said one depended on the other. But the last 2-3 updates either broke my wifi or took half an hour to connect. this one broke X. I should have been clearer about that but english ain't my first language.

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#30 2012-04-01 11:10:27

na12
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Registered: 2008-12-23
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

tomk wrote:
digitalone wrote:
LukynZ wrote:

I am really curious how is possible that this package is out from testing while it break xorg server.

I agree. Who did test this package?

Hopefully this is just me, but there seems to be an implied accusation here. This is a bug, it's been reported, there are various workarounds available to you until it is fixed.

You're using Arch, so you should be quite happy to roll your sleeves up and get under the hood whenever it's necessary.

Why put package with bug report in extra?

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#31 2012-04-01 12:16:56

tomk
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

Is that a serious question? yikes

Nobody decided to put a broken package in the repos - an error occurred, which caused the breakage.

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#32 2012-04-01 12:57:23

na12
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Re: no X startup after xf86-video-ati 6.14.4-1 update from extra

tomk wrote:

Is that a serious question? yikes

Nobody decided to put a broken package in the repos - an error occurred, which caused the breakage.

OK then.

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