I'm starting to think that fluxbox is a bit crap...

Snowman · 2005-09-03 08:22:26

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beniro · 2005-09-03 15:24:26

I've been a supporter of the new blackbox (0.70) since it came out. It's nice and purty, but strippped down and solid as a rock. Great for building a desktop.

rose · 2005-09-03 20:01:52

phrakture wrote:

rose wrote:
magnum_opus wrote:
thing is the speed that it can map a window is only relevent if that is larger than the time it takes to load the program that the window is for, which is generally never.
Unless these times add up...
If the program is made properly, they should overlap. X Requests are asyncronous, so one issues a MapRequest, which takes microseconds, and carries on with the standard init. Assuming the proper visuals are setup when it requests a mapping, it should be able to load before it is done initializing.

Right. But mapping the window takes some CPU time, so if you don't have a SMP machine, then the times should add up.

Frem · 2005-09-04 00:46:33

I agree about Fluxbox. It is seriously starting to stink. In fact, I blogged about it about a month ago. Since then, I've given up on Fluxbox completely and started using Openbox. I'd use FVWM, but I don't want to even think about how much time I'd spend tweaking it.

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-04 01:49:18

The only problem with Openbox is the maintainer who doesn't maintain it...

(That said, there seem to be very few bugs.)

Meshuggin · 2005-09-04 01:56:37

Gullible Jones wrote:

The only problem with Openbox is the maintainer who doesn't maintain it...
(That said, there seem to be very few bugs.)

At least on September 1st was released a new version ... actually 3.3rc2 , Fluxbox just stays on 0.9.13 for a loooooong time.

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-04 02:31:42

W00T! :twisted:

Frem · 2005-09-04 20:18:12

I think the reason Openbox development has been so slow is because there seems to only be one guy running the show there.

I honestly don't care how much work is done on a regular basis on the window manager I use, as long as there are no huge gaping problems that have been sitting around forever.

ozar · 2005-09-17 14:54:53

Looks like Fluxbox 0.9.14 has been released with some new features and fixes... any of you tried it yet?

News in 0.9.14:
* Titlebar scrolling options
* session.screenN.windowScrollAction: Shade|NextTab
- set the action that happens when scrolling on the titlebar
* session.screenN.windowScrollReverse: true|false
- reverse the action direction
* New locales: uk_UA, be_BY, el_GR
* Focus options:
SloppyFocus, SemiSloppyFocus and ClickToFocus options are now
MouseFocus, ClickFocus, MouseTabFocus and ClickTabFocus
* Renamed bsetroot to fbsetroot
* Improved move to action:
* MoveTo
- * means "use current value"
- Reference Corner is one of:
- UpperLeft, Upper, UpperRight
- Left, Right
- LowerLeft, Lower, Right
examples:
MoveTo 0 * Left -> snap to left workspace edge
MoveTo * 0 Lower -> snap to lower workspace edge
MoveTo 0 0 UpperRight -> snap to upper right workspace corner
* Font changes:
- Usage of xft-fonts is prefered, except a font-description starts with '-'
- Removed "antialias"-option completly, to enable/disable "antialias"
use either :antialias= in the style or use
Xft.antialias: in your .Xdefaults
- Added caching of fonts, fonts are only loaded once.

* New style resources:
*.font.effect:
*.font.shadow.x : - shadow x offset
*.font.shadow.y : - shadow y offset
*.font.shadow.color : - color of shadow
*.font.halo.color : - color of halo
- Removed 'shadow' and 'halo' options from fontdefinitions
- Style authors may specify multiple fonts:
||

* Keycodes can now be used in the keys file.
Example:
None 10 :NextWorkspace
where 10 is the keycode for '1'
* Added new configure option --with-locale=path
redirects location of nls directories.
Bug fixes:
* #1281708, MenuIcon does not scale properly
* #1240248, Segfaults for :MoveTabLeft/Right
* #1206821, unportable usage of grep in fbgm
* #1116965, #1047529, shaded windows on restart
* #1213003, SendToWorkspace shouldnt follow
* #1216020, *.font.effect wont get cleared if not defined in style
* #1213262, justification in WorkspaceNameTool
* Fixed systemtray overlap

iBertus · 2005-09-17 16:46:02

I'm using fluxbox-svn from dibbles repo.

Frem · 2005-09-17 17:45:07

ozar wrote:

Looks like Fluxbox 0.9.14 has been released with some new features and fixes... any of you tried it yet?

Meh... None of those were the changes I wanted, though...

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-17 18:16:48

God damn, those rounded corners are ugly. :shock:

iBertus · 2005-09-17 18:28:03

Gullible Jones wrote:

God damn, those rounded corners are ugly. :shock:

Pretty much...

dtw · 2005-09-17 20:03:05

Yeah, I use SVN, never anhthing to excite me - i will swicth to fvwm as soon as I can get a decent config together...

iBertus · 2005-09-17 22:33:53

I'm still trying to fix waimea to compile with the newest cairo libs. It doesn't look like it's been updated in ages and may not be worth the effort to fix b/c it looks like I could write a WM from scratch just about as easy as fixing the screwed up, over OO waimea code.

FVWM is nice and I'll give it a shot soon too, but I don't have time to make much of a config for it and it'll probably suck too until I have that time. E17 maybe the way to go for us all when it's 'more stable' and all that. Hell, even GNOME is looking good again.

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-17 23:45:31

Uhh... fd.o has halted development of Waimea CVS?

E17 does look pretty cool. The Eapp files are kind of annoying, but with a proper menu generator they shouldn't be a problem.

iBertus · 2005-09-18 01:18:07

Gullible Jones wrote:

Uhh... fd.o has halted development of Waimea CVS?

Are you saying or asking?

ghostwalker · 2005-09-18 01:27:57

Uhh... fd.o has halted development of Waimea CVS?

The dev is really busy with cairo has been really busy with cairo for a long time.

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-18 03:37:02

I was asking... Thanks for the info ghostwalker.

iBertus · 2005-09-18 07:01:47

Well, I'm hoping he puts some time into waimea soon now that Cairo 1.0 has been released.

dtw · 2005-09-18 08:16:41

Ithought e17 was crap. More a proof of concept than a user friendly application

Gullible Jones · 2005-09-18 10:28:04

It is right now... In another year or so, it might not be.

Then again, it might never go stable.

iBertus · 2005-09-18 15:43:53

I think the biggest part of E17 is all it's libs and technology. These have the potiental to put linux right up there with OSX in the look-n-feel category. I always thought E16 was kick-ass but for some reason never used it.... :?

ozar · 2005-09-18 16:03:41

I've tried e16 and e17 a number of times but simply can't get used to either of them. I keep thinking that might change but so far, they are not appealing to me at all.

The use of Pekwm as my default WM is looking better all the time, though.

Anonymo · 2005-09-19 16:14:09

my friend used to use fluxbox and was always trying to impose it on me. Yet I always seem to like gnome. Anyways, he now uses Ratpoison exclusively.

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