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#726 2013-11-26 00:02:20

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Installed new version... things seem normal... will keep you posted.

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#727 2013-11-26 20:32:50

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

The new freetype2-infinality-ultimate is now in the repo. Relevant bits from the CHANGELOG:

* fontconfig-infinality-ultimate
** fixed bitmap to outline replacement rules
   and split 38-repl-tt-traced-bitmap.conf (issue #8)
** fixed Liberation Sans Bold & Regular < 13px
** swapping Heuristica T1 for OTF (bug in T1 Unicode
   encoding)

* freetype2-infinality-ultimate
** upstream version upgrade to 2.5.1
** revised and regenerated Infinality patchset

I decided to replace Heuristica T1 with the OTF version. The T1 had a bug in Unicode encoding which prevented the document from being printed correctly. This was a minor issue, but is no more. smile

Enjoy.


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#728 2013-11-27 21:48:17

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I am getting this error sad
"erro: infinality-bundle: key "AE6866C7962DDE58" is unknown
atenção: key 962DDE58, "bohoomil (dev key) <bohoomil@zoho.com>" found on keyserver, keyring is not writable
erro: infinality-bundle-multilib: key "AE6866C7962DDE58" is unknown
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#729 2013-11-27 21:54:06

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Did you read the first post?

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#730 2013-11-27 22:02:06

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Yes, I did

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#731 2013-11-27 22:20:45

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Is your keyring directory (/usr/share/pacman/keyrings/ I guess) writable?

Have you properly configured pacman-key?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman-key

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#732 2013-11-27 22:32:59

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Isn't the key imported to /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/pubring.gpg?


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#733 2013-11-27 22:35:05

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil wrote:

Isn't the key imported to /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/pubring.gpg?

You might be right.

I just remembered something: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 3#p1354333
http://pastebin.com/4K89xS1i

Maybe it's an ArchBang-specific error?

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#734 2013-11-27 22:35:58

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I guess so -- look into the bin…

Edit: OK, you already have. Anyway, the directory structure should remain the same…

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#735 2013-11-28 07:15:09

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Since the last update yesterday I have problems with the fonts in github (see attached screenshot). The grey fonts now look very strange.
Firefox uses "Lato-HairlineItalic" for the grey font.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/372 … hl_019.png


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#736 2013-11-28 08:17:36

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

This is not a problem: Lato has been the new replacement for Helvetica.

If you don't like it, add this file to /etc/fonts/conf.avail.infinality:

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>

  <match target="font">
    <test name="family">
      <string>Helvetica</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="family" mode="assign">
      <string>Liberastika</string>
      <string>Open Sans</string>
      <string>Nimbus Sans L</string>
      <string>TeXGyreHeros</string>
      <string>TeX Gyre Heros</string>
      <string>Liberation Sans</string>
    </edit>
  </match>
  <match target="pattern">
    <test name="family">
      <string>Helvetica</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="strong">
      <string>Liberastika</string>
      <string>Open Sans</string>
      <string>Nimbus Sans L</string>
      <string>TeXGyreHeros</string>
      <string>TeX Gyre Heros</string>
      <string>Liberation Sans</string>
    </edit>
  </match>

</fontconfig>

and link it:

# cd /etc/fonts/conf.d
# ln -s ../conf.avail.infinality/36-repl-custom.conf .

You can easily edit the file and choose a typeface you like better.


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#737 2013-11-28 12:31:06

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

@rumpelsepp
no idea why, but that text is black for me in Firefox, not grey (screenshot)

Edit: looking at them side by side, it seems I am using a different font?

Edit2: Actually, I don't think that is Lato at all. Look at your "y" and compare with here

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#738 2013-11-28 15:54:41

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

hokasch wrote:

@rumpelsepp
no idea why, but that text is black for me in Firefox, not grey (screenshot)

I have tried out Chrome nad there it looks like yours. Any ideas? Maybe I can reset my fonts or something similar...

@bohoomil
I have no problem with the typeface. In Chrome it looks fine, bit this distorted "thing" in firefox is just ugly... I think there might be a problem with my setup but I have no idea what's giong wrong.

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#739 2013-11-28 17:25:28

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I think this is actually what the ultra light variant may look like… I am by no means insisting on using it: I have picked Lato because it is generally a very nice and well designed typeface, even though it is neither visually nor metrically compatible with Helvetica. I did not know it might not be entirely safe since my testing has never revealed any major issues. Getting back to what we were using before Lato seems to be a reasonable solution, IMO.


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#740 2013-11-28 18:05:25

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Is anybody else seen kerning issues with Open Sans? For example as marked on this screenshot (original). Is there anything I can do about that, or is it a limitation of the font one has to live with?

edit: fixed link

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#741 2013-11-28 18:09:22

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Sorry, scrap my last post - yes that is Lato on rumpelsepp's screenshot. Got confused.. My Screenshot was with OpenSans.

This is how the pages looks with Lato for me. It picked the "normal" italic version, not hairline. What could be different for rumpelsepp that it picked the hairline variant?

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#742 2013-11-28 20:29:31

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

gothmog.todi, this is the limitation of the font at this particular size (= 15px). I will prepare two Open Sans packages (TTF and Type 1) with separate configs for each variant so you can choose the one which is better for you. The TrueType version has not been perfect either (that is why I decided to make T1 the default), but as freetype2's code has been updated, we may re-test it and see if it has improved.

hokash, would you mind sharing the link to the repo the screenshot comes from? By the way, both my FF and dwb pick the hairline weight for side notes at GitHub.


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#743 2013-11-28 20:59:49

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil wrote:

hokash, would you mind sharing the link to the repo the screenshot comes from? By the way, both my FF and dwb pick the hairline weight for side notes at GitHub.

Here you are. smile
https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/milestones


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#744 2013-11-28 22:43:34

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

rumpelsepp, thank you. I guess I must have missed something. This is what Lato @ GitHub actually looks like: Firefox & dwb / webkit. Are you sure there is everything OK with your fontconfig, freetype2 and FF configuration? Are you using some DE environment with an independent font configuration panel? If yes, are the settings there duplicated from /etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh, Xft section?

gothmog.todi, this is Open Sans TTF: click. Install the TrueType version, please, and test it on your own. This is actually a kind request to anyone willing to help: test the new font variant and report back if you notice any rendering anomalies. You may need to remove ibfonts-meta-extended since it still needs the Type 1 font. If things look good, we will use TTF by default. Thanks.


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#745 2013-11-29 08:05:24

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil wrote:

rumpelsepp, thank you. I guess I must have missed something. This is what Lato @ GitHub actually looks like: Firefox & dwb / webkit. Are you sure there is everything OK with your fontconfig, freetype2 and FF configuration? Are you using some DE environment with an independent font configuration panel? If yes, are the settings there duplicated from /etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh, Xft section?

I use gnome3 and I only have installed the infinality-bundle package and the fonts-metapackage. My Firefox font configuration is (top-down) Sans-Serif, serif, sans-serif, monospace. I have nothing altered or patched with the freetype2 configuration.


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#746 2013-11-29 08:58:07

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I tried the TTF version and it does indeed look better. It seems that before "font-weight: 300" in Allan's css was ignored. Now it uses "Open Sans Light" for the page, which apparently does not have the kerning issue. Other sites (that don't use font-weight 300) still use "Open Sans Regular" which still has the issue. For example here. I also tried the effect of different font sizes. It seems to me that the issue is strongest on 15px, but it is also visible on smaller/bigger font sizes (but less pronounced).
Anyway, thank you for your help, I really appreciate you spending your time fixing our silly little problems smile

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#747 2013-11-30 01:43:55

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

rumpelsepp wrote:
bohoomil wrote:

rumpelsepp, thank you. I guess I must have missed something. This is what Lato @ GitHub actually looks like: Firefox & dwb / webkit. Are you sure there is everything OK with your fontconfig, freetype2 and FF configuration? Are you using some DE environment with an independent font configuration panel? If yes, are the settings there duplicated from /etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh, Xft section?

I use gnome3 and I only have installed the infinality-bundle package and the fonts-metapackage. My Firefox font configuration is (top-down) Sans-Serif, serif, sans-serif, monospace. I have nothing altered or patched with the freetype2 configuration.

Which meta package? There are at least three!


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#748 2013-12-01 21:27:17

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

When I try to use intentionally pixelated TTF fonts the appear distorted. See http://imgur.com/Sx4DUjX (window titlebar fonts and small Conky fonts). The fonts are meant to look like (Munro Small) on this page: http://tenbytwenty.com/?xxxx_posts=munro

I tried replacing all the 82-no-'s in /etc/fonts/conf.d with 83-yes-* in /etc/fonts/conf.avail.infinality but didn't have any luck...

Any ideas what the issue might be?

Edit: FIXED using fractional font sizes (7.5 instead of 8), which feels a bit odd. I still have a problem with certain fonts having poor letter spacing, for instance between [a, any letter], [pa], [un], [pn], etc..

Otherwise, everything looks brilliant. Stuff is much better to read now.

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#749 2013-12-02 00:01:29

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

http://i.imgur.com/8p8qW4O.png

dat " L" is normal?

use infinality-bundle-fonts/ttf-ubuntu-font-family-ibx 0.80-4 in KDE 4.12beta3(?) with regular size 11

greetings

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#750 2013-12-02 00:22:31

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

@sl1pkn07, I think so. See the specimen here: Ubuntu font. This is what it looks like on my machine: click. I believe that the designer couldn't predict all combinations of capital and small letters, hence some may look a bit odd. I will try to play with it, though.

@Vixus, such fonts are a bit difficult to use, but I will look into it as soon as I have some time to spare.

Last edited by bohoomil (2013-12-02 00:23:18)


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