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#26 2013-09-25 12:12:26

agumonkey
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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

I messed my post. see next

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#27 2013-09-25 12:13:03

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

WorMzy wrote:

The -2 linux package just has a fix for a skge (network) module regression. Like Aaron Lu says in the bug report, he can't reproduce the bug, and needs some extra information to diagnose the problem. Jeff Pohlmeyer looks to have done most of the hard work and isolated a cluster of commits where the problem surfaced. If you can find the time to assist with the investigation and share your findings on the bug report, it may help find a fix sooner.


Link to Jeff's comments : https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61781#c6

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#28 2013-09-26 08:00:58

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Same thing here. Kernel 3.11.1 on i686 fails to resume dropping me down at login prompt.
Any systemd command after that results in the previously reported D-Bus connection failed error.
Downgrade to 3.10.10 fixes it.

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#29 2013-09-26 09:50:00

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

And the glibc 2.18-5 push of today has brought back the problem for me (kern 3.11.1-2 too)

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#30 2013-09-29 06:26:07

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Are you guys still having the problem? I'm on kernel 3.11.2 , x86_64 install and I can't resume from suspend.

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#31 2013-09-29 09:37:29

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

archie0 wrote:

Are you guys still having the problem?

I didn't update yet, I'm also waiting to check if the problem is still present.

archie0 wrote:

I'm on kernel 3.11.2, x86_64 install and I can't resume from suspend.

So the problem isn't just about 32bit anymore?


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#32 2013-09-29 09:56:32

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

The 64bit 3.11.2 kernel works for me. Still same problem with 32bit.

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#33 2013-09-29 12:29:07

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

For me, on i686, the problem still persist. Curently using LTS version to avoid the bug.


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#34 2013-09-29 14:51:49

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

I was wondering if anyone could help fix this issue.  When i close down my laptop lid and open it back up again the gnome 3 lock screen appears as expected.  But when i log back in gnome's networkmanager application doesn't start back up.  Ive tried the "systemctl enable networkmanager" command and nothing happens the terminal just freezes.  Also it dosn't let me shut down or restart the laptop with both the GUI and terminal nothing happens.  The networkmanager and the shutdown and restart functions work fine before I close the lid down.

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#35 2013-09-29 16:03:29

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Is this a 32-bit laptop with an up-to-date kernel?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170008


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#36 2013-09-29 16:54:22

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Yes its a 32-bit machine with the latest kernel version.

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#37 2013-09-29 18:30:51

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Then, from the symptoms you've described, you're probably suffering from the same bug described in that topic. An interim "solution" is to downgrade your kernel or switch to the lts kernel, though you should consider helping to isolate and debug the problem by participating in the kernel bug report.


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#38 2013-09-29 18:41:47

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Merging threads


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#39 2013-09-30 00:19:22

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Updated to the latest kernel. Suspend still breaks systemd on my 32bit computer.

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#40 2013-10-01 06:16:33

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Same situation with kernel 3.11.2-1
Resumed from suspend, first I found I couldn't establish any network connection, then, not even be able to use reboot command.

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#41 2013-10-01 09:07:40

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Reading the last comments https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61781#c19 they seems to be closing in on the issue. Pretty interesting investigation.

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#42 2013-10-01 09:13:18

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Ugly workaround script (works for me, YMMV)

#!/bin/bash
strace -p 1 -o /dev/null 2>/dev/null &
StracePid=$!
sleep 1
systemctl suspend
kill $StracePid

Note: You'll need to have strace installed (pacman -S strace) and you might need to run this script as root.

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#43 2013-10-01 09:54:31

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

yetanothergeek wrote:

Ugly workaround script (works for me, YMMV)

#!/bin/bash
strace -p 1 -o /dev/null 2>/dev/null &
StracePid=$!
sleep 1
systemctl suspend
kill $StracePid

Note: You'll need to have strace installed (pacman -S strace) and you might need to run this script as root.

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Could you explain what appears to me as black magic ? strace interfere with kernel time ?

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#44 2013-10-01 10:18:40

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

agumonkey wrote:

Could you explain what appears to me as black magic ? strace interfere with kernel time ?

Your guess is as good as mine.
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#45 2013-10-01 10:22:06

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

As an only mildly-educated guess, if a running strace fixes the problem, the underlying problem is likely a race condition.  The strace adds just enough lag or delay to alleviate the conflicting timing.


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#46 2013-10-01 10:55:43

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Trilby wrote:

As an only mildly-educated guess, if a running strace fixes the problem, the underlying problem is likely a race condition.  The strace adds just enough lag or delay to alleviate the conflicting timing.

Ok, so the script is a way to "install" some operations post wake up. I still wonder if it's strace specific, gonna try with other programs.

ps: just realized strace was attaching to systemd ..

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#47 2013-10-01 12:25:05

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

agumonkey wrote:

[Ok, so the script is a way to "install" some operations post wake up ...

No - at least that's not what I was suggesting.  Again, my suggested explanation is a bit of a guess, but I suspect it is simply due to the strace making every step take a little longer.  This added time allows some processes or threads to get to a needed place before some other process or thread that relies on them.

Again, this is a guess, but it is based on experience with buggy multithreaded processes: in my (admittedly limited) experience, if simply running an strace on a process makes the buggy behavior disappear, the buggy behavior is likely due to a race condition of one process getting "ahead" of another process that it should be synchronized or coordinated with.


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#48 2013-10-02 18:37:05

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Same problem here with kernel 3.11.2-1-i686.
Downgrade to kernel 3.11.1-2-i686 but the problems continued.
The kernel 3.11.1-1-i686 fixed both the wireless and the shutdown
problems after resume from suspend.
Thank you all...

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#49 2013-10-02 19:35:57

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

Please don't post simply to echo that you have the same issue: if you have substantive information, add that, but otherise it is just empty posting that clutters the thread.


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#50 2013-10-02 19:37:28

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Re: [FIXED]Last kernel update sleep/resume failure

pekgr wrote:

Same problem here with kernel 3.11.2-1-i686.
Downgrade to kernel 3.11.1-2-i686 but the problems continued.
The kernel 3.11.1-1-i686 fixed both the wireless and the shutdown
problems after resume from suspend.
Thank you all...

Hm, my machine seems to be still on 3.11.1-1, at least uname -a yields
3.11.1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 14 20:31:35 CEST 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
Does that mean, that there's an other reason for this behaviour, here?

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