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#76 2015-03-05 08:16:16

fbourigault
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Registered: 2014-04-08
Posts: 22

Re: Gnome software

Nice bug report !

To have application centric packaging there is at least one other issue. For example you have gnome-contacts that depends on cheese. In my case I don't want cheese but contacts. If I remove cheese, it also remove contacts.

IMHO a general recommendation to be application centric, is that applications must not depends on other applications and I don't know if Arch linux developers and trusted users wants to do such package splitting because it require more time from packager to get things work.

It would be nice to have Arch Linux being application centric packaged but the work to get it will be hard. I will try to build a tool that parse the repos and the appstream data to list what is wrong with current packaging.

Last edited by fbourigault (2015-03-05 08:19:38)

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#77 2015-03-05 15:29:14

dsreyes1014
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Registered: 2014-06-28
Posts: 56

Re: Gnome software

dsreyes1014 wrote:

Problem installing apps.  It just hangs with 'Installing' on app. 
Also can't see all of my installed apps. 

I did update the system through Gnome Software with success! :-)

Scratch updating it.  It just keeps 'downloading/looking for software updates' and nothing happens.  I was able to do one update but after that nothing.

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#78 2015-03-05 15:38:47

arojas
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From: Spain
Registered: 2011-10-09
Posts: 2,103

Re: Gnome software

fbourigault wrote:

It would be nice to have Arch Linux being application centric packaged but the work to get it will be hard. I will try to build a tool that parse the repos and the appstream data to list what is wrong with current packaging.

I don't think you will have much success, as that goes somewhat against the Arch philosophy of staying as close to upstream as possible. If anything, the trend is the opposite: libreoffice was recently combined again into a single package.
FTR, muon has just been fixed to support multiple applications per package, which shows that there's nothing that technically prevents this from being done in gnome-software too.

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#79 2015-03-05 16:22:54

brittyazel
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From: Davis, CA
Registered: 2013-05-11
Posts: 163

Re: Gnome software

Ya my bug report was closed fairly quickly. Seems that for the time being things are going to stay as they are. That is interesting that muon came up with a solution though. It would be great to see that in gnome-software


I don't really know what I'm doing.

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#80 2015-04-10 16:14:41

brittyazel
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From: Davis, CA
Registered: 2013-05-11
Posts: 163

Re: Gnome software

Good work getting all this package in stable for 3.16!

I just noticed something peculiar though. Why is it that installing software does not ask for an admin password at all, but removing software does require a password?


I don't really know what I'm doing.

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#81 2015-04-21 10:04:55

jypma
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Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 13

Re: Gnome software

Gnome software detects system upgrades just fine, but trying to apply them (by restarting) just does a reboot, with no software changed.

Using PackageKit directly from the console, 

pkcon update

, does do an upgrade correctly.

Is an ordinary system upgrade (the equivalent of

pacman -Syu

) supposed to work with Gnome Software on arch?

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#82 2015-04-24 15:21:43

hoschi
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From: Ulm (Germany)
Registered: 2008-11-03
Posts: 458

Re: Gnome software

I'm afraid gnome-software gave me just a terrifying feeling of a Windows style update with hangs and undesired reboots.

Never again.

Last edited by hoschi (2015-04-24 15:23:20)

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#83 2015-04-24 15:47:24

blackout23
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Registered: 2011-11-16
Posts: 781

Re: Gnome software

I'd never update Arch with something that doesn't tell me if any package installed a pacnew or if there was any information printed out that was put into the post_update() routine.

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#84 2015-04-24 20:47:28

hoschi
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From: Ulm (Germany)
Registered: 2008-11-03
Posts: 458

Re: Gnome software

I didn't used gnome-software actively, just viewed. It run's it PackageKit-Stuff itself in the background, but shouldn't act itself.

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#85 2015-04-25 00:28:58

lmello
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From: Brazil
Registered: 2012-11-06
Posts: 300

Re: Gnome software

I does work and it tells you which software is being upgraded beforehand if you click on the box. It does, however, reboot every time.


Fundamental Axiom of the Universe (aka Murphy's Law): Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.
First Digital Deduction: Nothing obeys Murphy's Law so well as computers.
Second Digital Deduction: Everything go wrong at least once.
Third Digital Deduction: Things go wrong even when there's absolutely no possibility of anything go wrong.

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