Gnome 3.12 Beta

ff · 2014-04-16 15:26:02

neubauten84 wrote:

Hi there!
I stll have a small question mark on my wifi icon in gnome panel..but connection works fine...what's wrong??
Does anybody else get it??

Me too. Does anybody know what this icon is supposed to mean?

hokasch · 2014-04-16 15:42:12

https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/System … ork_States

It's bugged for me too, sometimes displaying "no-route" although the connection works. I have a feeling it gets confused when switching between wireless and wired. Should be reported upstream.

EDIT:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727727
fixed in newer version of networkmanager, or so it sounds

Last edited by hokasch (2014-04-16 15:44:32)

tourist · 2014-04-16 17:44:14

vacant wrote:

tourist wrote:
After upgrading to 3.12, evolution can't retrieve my emails because of:
evolution:2565): evolution-mail-WARNING **: (mail-send-recv.c:1122):receive_update_got_folderinfo: runtime check failed: (info != NULL)
(evolution:2565): evolution-mail-WARNING **: receive_update_got_folderinfo: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.secrets: Timeout was reached
I started getting this error after updating today. I had to turn off autologin in lxdm (tried lightdm but Evolution still failed on boot if autologin is set). Logging out then in again got mail working. When Evolution gives this error I also notice that Seahorse is missing its "Passwords" section, not just an empty "Passwords", I don't get a clickable "Passwords" to open.
I'm using Xfce4 with enough Gnome to run Evolution so I can't be sure whether problems I see are due to bugs or my hybrid set up.

Yes, it started to work after I disabled auto login. Thanks!

acidicX · 2014-04-16 17:47:26

Cinnamon is still really unstable (or has severe usability issues) at times, and the update also broke mdm-display-manager from AUR. AFAIK this is not a cinnamon bug, as some users also cannot log in to gnome via mdm. Seems to be a gnome dependency that broke it.
A notice on the front page would have been nice, really. Next time please

Last edited by acidicX (2014-04-16 17:48:25)

Aestus · 2014-04-17 11:58:53

After upgrading to Gnome 3.12, newly added music doesn't show up in gnome-music. Reinstalling gnome-music and tracker and resetting the tracker databases just causes all music to disappear from it entirely. This happen to anyone else?

phw · 2014-04-17 12:50:44

Aestus wrote:

After upgrading to Gnome 3.12, newly added music doesn't show up in gnome-music. Reinstalling gnome-music and tracker and resetting the tracker databases just causes all music to disappear from it entirely. This happen to anyone else?

Can't say for sure, but the tracker segfaults on my system regularly (see journalctl output). Maybe it is not indexing at all.

Aestus · 2014-04-17 13:02:41

phw wrote:

Aestus wrote:
After upgrading to Gnome 3.12, newly added music doesn't show up in gnome-music. Reinstalling gnome-music and tracker and resetting the tracker databases just causes all music to disappear from it entirely. This happen to anyone else?
Can't say for sure, but the tracker segfaults on my system regularly (see journalctl output). Maybe it is not indexing at all.

On further inspection, gnome-music displays songs under the Songs tab, but not under Albums or Artists. When querying tracker with

tracker-search -m

it displays all music files, but when querying with

tracker-search --music-artists && tracker-search --music-albums

the results are empty. It seems it's not indexing song metadata... and there appears to be no reset option for that... should I start a new thread?

Edit: Nothing in journalctl related to this.
Edit: Started a new thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180249

Last edited by Aestus (2014-04-18 03:10:55)

w201 · 2014-04-18 15:11:16

Anyone know a workaround for creating folders to group applications in the applications overview? The way it's normally done is by going through the Gnome Software Manager.

Two things actually, Gnome Software Manager doesn't show up as one of my applications. Is there a way to install it. I searched in the pacakge database and nothing came up. Not that I would use it to install packages, I would be using pacman, but I would like to create some folders so I can group applications.

Thanks!

Kopkins · 2014-04-18 16:00:44

w201 wrote:

Anyone know a workaround for creating folders to group applications in the applications overview? The way it's normally done is by going through the Gnome Software Manager.
Two things actually, Gnome Software Manager doesn't show up as one of my applications. Is there a way to install it. I searched in the pacakge database and nothing came up. Not that I would use it to install packages, I would be using pacman, but I would like to create some folders so I can group applications.
Thanks!

Look through this thread, people have posted the solution a few times.

w201 · 2014-04-18 17:00:43

Kopkins wrote:

w201 wrote:
Anyone know a workaround for creating folders to group applications in the applications overview? The way it's normally done is by going through the Gnome Software Manager.
Two things actually, Gnome Software Manager doesn't show up as one of my applications. Is there a way to install it. I searched in the pacakge database and nothing came up. Not that I would use it to install packages, I would be using pacman, but I would like to create some folders so I can group applications.
Thanks!
Look through this thread, people have posted the solution a few times.

Found it, Thanks!

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 4#p1399044

Last edited by w201 (2014-04-18 17:03:14)

ButchDeLoria · 2014-04-19 03:49:54

Has anything been found about GDM causing Catalyst to crash?

russ0r · 2014-04-19 15:27:30

Anyone know where gnome-session-properties has gone? I'm on 3.12.1 but thought I'd ask here in case anyone knows.

Last edited by russ0r (2014-04-19 15:27:49)

jorenko · 2014-04-19 15:41:08

I am also having the GDM catalyst crash. Since it seems we'll be waiting a while for a solution to that, does anyone have a workaround? My computer's pretty useless in this state.

So far I've tried downgrading gnome-* and gdm to 3.10 but that's crashing in different ways. It seems I'll have a few dozen more packages with less obvious names to downgrade if I want to go that path. Yuck.

hoschi · 2014-04-19 17:56:11

Hello!
Am I right, that currently the Wayland-Session cannot work in the default setup? For this it is still a requirement to manually install xorg-server-wayland?

ooo · 2014-04-19 18:08:26

hoschi wrote:

Hello!
Am I right, that currently the Wayland-Session cannot work in the default setup? For this it is still a requirement to manually install xorg-server-wayland?

You are right. Unfortunately it looks like the xorg-server-wayland in AUR has been broken ever since xwayland was merged in mainline.

There's xorg-server-xwayland-dev that could work though. afaik you still need xwayland patched xf86-video drivers too.
EDIT. I forgot there's the new generic glamor based xwayland driver, and from what I gathered it should be included in xorg-server already, so there should be no need for additional patched drivers, you sould only need the xorg-server-xwayland-dev.

Last edited by ooo (2014-04-19 18:21:37)

slowpoke1584 · 2014-04-19 18:48:43

jorenko wrote:

I am also having the GDM catalyst crash. Since it seems we'll be waiting a while for a solution to that, does anyone have a workaround? My computer's pretty useless in this state.
So far I've tried downgrading gnome-* and gdm to 3.10 but that's crashing in different ways. It seems I'll have a few dozen more packages with less obvious names to downgrade if I want to go that path. Yuck.

I think I'm having the same crash (started after I used the zoom feature), but am on Nvidia instead. I've tried everything I could find to roll back, restart, etc etc. and finally just had to switch to kde for now. If I've missed the solution somewhere I wish someone would point it out.

kabbalah · 2014-04-19 21:27:32

1. Downgrade gnome-session
2. alt + f2 - Type in gnome-session-properties - to test it,
3. Reboot
4. Upgrade gnome-session
5. alt + f2 - Type in gnome-session-properties - to test it,
6. All ok

Last edited by kabbalah (2014-04-19 21:31:39)

slowpoke1584 · 2014-04-19 23:25:30

kabbalah wrote:

1. Downgrade gnome-session
2. alt + f2 - Type in gnome-session-properties - to test it,
3. Reboot
4. Upgrade gnome-session
5. alt + f2 - Type in gnome-session-properties - to test it,
6. All ok

Tried this 3 times step by step after writing it down to be sure. Went to /var/cache/pacman/pkg/gnome-session-3.10.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz and installed it.

Entered gnome-session-properties outside x-server. Received:

error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
Unable to init server: Could not connect: connection refused
** (gnome-session-properties:14065): WARNING **
Unable to start: Cannot open display:

Reboot

pacman -S gnome-session

gnome-session-properties

Received:

 bash: /usr/bin/gnome-session-properties: No such file or directory

Reboot

sudo systemctl start gdm

error message

Last edited by slowpoke1584 (2014-04-19 23:28:17)

brittyazel · 2014-04-20 08:03:26

jorenko wrote:

I am also having the GDM catalyst crash. Since it seems we'll be waiting a while for a solution to that, does anyone have a workaround? My computer's pretty useless in this state.
So far I've tried downgrading gnome-* and gdm to 3.10 but that's crashing in different ways. It seems I'll have a few dozen more packages with less obvious names to downgrade if I want to go that path. Yuck.

One option is to switch to the open drivers, as they do not experience any of these issues and have matured quite a lot recently. Its at the least a step up from uselessness or downgrading

hoschi · 2014-04-20 09:16:27

ooo wrote:

hoschi wrote:
Hello!
Am I right, that currently the Wayland-Session cannot work in the default setup? For this it is still a requirement to manually install xorg-server-wayland?
You are right. Unfortunately it looks like the xorg-server-wayland in AUR has been broken ever since xwayland was merged in mainline.
There's xorg-server-xwayland-dev that could work though. afaik you still need xwayland patched xf86-video drivers too.
EDIT. I forgot there's the new generic glamor based xwayland driver, and from what I gathered it should be included in xorg-server already, so there should be no need for additional patched drivers, you sould only need the xorg-server-xwayland-dev.

Thank you! I thought initally that Wayland can now be tested easily.
So I have to stay with X11 for now, because I don't want to change bigger parts of the system.

clfarron4 · 2014-04-20 10:54:00

brittyazel wrote:

jorenko wrote:
I am also having the GDM catalyst crash. Since it seems we'll be waiting a while for a solution to that, does anyone have a workaround? My computer's pretty useless in this state.
So far I've tried downgrading gnome-* and gdm to 3.10 but that's crashing in different ways. It seems I'll have a few dozen more packages with less obvious names to downgrade if I want to go that path. Yuck.
One option is to switch to the open drivers, as they do not experience any of these issues and have matured quite a lot recently. Its at the least a step up from uselessness or downgrading

Switching to the AMD open drivers with GNOME doesn't work for some people (like me).

cris9288 · 2014-04-20 15:07:58

If anyone is still noticing performance issues on Intel graphics I've found that a possible culprit is the powersave frequency governor. I used powerdown-git to help me figure it out - I noticed that whenever I unplugged my laptop from AC power, the shell would become sluggish and running /usr/bin/powerup (or plugging back in) would bring it back to normal. So I commented this line out from /usr/bin/powerdown:

for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor; do opt "$i" powersave; done

This seems to have improved things a little. I also have this in my /etc/X11/xorg.confd.d/20-intel.conf:

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "AccelMethod"  "glamor"
EndSection

but I'll be testing my theory without it in a bit.

swiftscythe · 2014-04-20 17:50:02

swiftscythe wrote:

I've been using GNOME 3.12 for some days now, and this are the issues I found:
- When using an external display, multimedia and brightness keys don't work, and GNOME says something went wrong and forces me to log out
- I'm using GNOME on a ThinkPad X220 Tablet, and GNOME control center does not display Wacom settings (but it tells me that I need to calibrate the wacom every time I log in).
- I also noticed that when I start rhythmbox, both gnome-shell and rhythmbox consume 100% for 1 minute or so, after which rhythmbox becomes responsive, but uses 320 MB of RAM instead of the 90 MB it used on GNOME 3.10 (I've rebuilt rhythmbox against GNOME 3.12, but nothing changed)
Thanks for letting us test GNOME 3.12 easily

With regards the Rhythmbox issue, I found a bug report here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728319
It seems that the larger the library is, the longer it freezes (for my 1000 artists and 24000 songs is about 1 minute)
Apparently it is related to the accessibility settings, so killing all AT-SPI processes makes the problem disappear.

The wacom issue was fixed in gnome-control-center 3.12.1

The problem with multiple monitors still exists. One thing I did not mention was that, whenever I'm using an external monitor, appmenus appear attached to CSD, even if I'm only using one monitor.
Despite the fact that GNOME tells me to log out, using alt-tab allows me to bypass that warning and continue using gnome-shell "normally"

If anyone has any idea on what could be happening with the external monitors, I'd appreciate their advices, since it's quite annoying.

As a side information, l'm using the intel driver, and it does not happen on a machine using nvidia proprietary drivers, but I don't know if that has anything to do...

brittyazel · 2014-04-20 18:24:06

clfarron4 wrote:

brittyazel wrote:
jorenko wrote:
I am also having the GDM catalyst crash. Since it seems we'll be waiting a while for a solution to that, does anyone have a workaround? My computer's pretty useless in this state.
So far I've tried downgrading gnome-* and gdm to 3.10 but that's crashing in different ways. It seems I'll have a few dozen more packages with less obvious names to downgrade if I want to go that path. Yuck.
One option is to switch to the open drivers, as they do not experience any of these issues and have matured quite a lot recently. Its at the least a step up from uselessness or downgrading
Switching to the AMD open drivers with GNOME doesn't work for some people (like me).

"Doesn't work", as in you have tried and it fails? or, I hate the Open Source drivers and don't want to use them?

clfarron4 · 2014-04-20 18:42:29

brittyazel wrote:

clfarron4 wrote:
Switching to the AMD open drivers with GNOME doesn't work for some people (like me).
"Doesn't work", as in you have tried and it fails? or, I hate the Open Source drivers and don't want to use them?

"Doesn't work" as in loads, but is completely unusable. There is god awful tearing/screen flashing with both proprietary and open source drivers. Gone through all possible configurations I can think of and nothing has worked. This has been like this since GNOME 3.8, and it's getting worse. And this is on an AMD-3305M APU with AMD Radeon 6480G Graphics, something that is supposed to be more than capable of running GNOME3.

Last edited by clfarron4 (2014-04-20 18:43:50)

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