Gnome 3.12 Beta

blackout23 · 2014-03-31 11:20:43

kjell wrote:

Installed on two laptops, both without issues so far. :=)
From what I've read, one can now supposedly create folders in the programs overview. I do not see this feature.....

You need Gnome Software for that which doesn't work on Arch anyway since the packagekit version would need to be patched for the newest pacman and Arch doesn't ship any AppStream Metadata either.

http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-software-on-arch/

Last edited by blackout23 (2014-03-31 11:21:19)

Thorsten Reinbold · 2014-03-31 11:35:06

Do I see that right: "Video" has lost it's playlist view? o.O

fredbezies · 2014-03-31 11:39:04

Thorsten Reinbold wrote:

Do I see that right: "Video" has lost it's playlist view? o.O

You're right. Video lost its playlist view. Another reason to use VLC / Gnome MPlayer.

Thorsten Reinbold · 2014-03-31 11:46:33

Good choice. I use Gnome Mplayer. And I guess with gnome 3.12 I will stop using Totem/Video. I used it for Audiobooks, but without the playlist view, it's nearly useless for me now. Also, I have to say that I don't see much improvements in this release. Rhythmbox as example is still unable to readd deleted podcast episodes. -.-

dekela · 2014-03-31 12:29:44

I installed gnome and gnone-shell clutter and gdm.
but I cant start gnome...

Can anyone post the commands he used to install it?

Thanks

Dekel

fredbezies · 2014-03-31 12:52:17

you have to install all gnome :

sudo pacman -S gnome

Then test gdm :

sudo systemctl start gdm.service

If all is ok, you can activate gdm for good :

sudo systemctl enable gdm.service

dekela · 2014-03-31 13:20:18

fredbezies wrote:

you have to install all gnome :
sudo pacman -S gnome
Then test gdm :
sudo systemctl start gdm.service
If all is ok, you can activate gdm for good :
sudo systemctl enable gdm.service

Thanks, when I try to start gdm I get a blank screen and it goes back to lxdm.. (I am currently on xfce.)

Any Idea?

p.s. its in Virtual Box

Cthulhu82 · 2014-03-31 13:56:43

Did you stop and deactivate LXDM before trying GDM ?

lains · 2014-03-31 14:37:04

lains wrote:

ScionicSpectre wrote:
lains wrote:
Epiphany/Web 3.12 segfaults after trying to load it's new HTML page, oddly.
Odd, indeed- I noticed this on the official live image from the GNOME website, as well, but on my newly updated Arch installation, everything runs beautifully with no crashes. I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that I only recently uninstalled GNOME 3.10, so the config files for Epiphany must still be there somehow correcting this issue. Perhaps the Speed Dial page is expecting be populated with pre-existing information?

Maybe I should reinstall Arch then set the repo at install and do stuff fresh from the install...

I have relevant info.

epiphany[974]: segfault at 18 ip b453e0c3 sp bff06460 error 4 in libc-2.19.so[b44f7000+1a7000]

What is even this. Obfuscated Error codes are not nice.

combuster · 2014-03-31 14:59:08

Works for me (clean install over xfce4), but the only thing so far that is not working is gnome-terminal, gives out the following message:

gnome-terminal
Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 1

adam777 · 2014-03-31 15:06:58

While waiting patiently for 3.12 to roll into repos, I stumbled upon the following message in the gnome desktop-devel-list, from a few days ago:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop … 00102.html
A list of missing packages for the 3.12 release.

From what I can see, currently missing packages upstream are sushi, brasero and gnome-weather.
Considering sushi is part of the gnome group and the latter two are part of gnome-extras, am I right in assuming gnome will not roll into the repos until upstream release all of the above?

jdoe · 2014-03-31 15:22:45

combuster wrote:

Works for me (clean install over xfce4), but the only thing so far that is not working is gnome-terminal, gives out the following message:
gnome-terminal
Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 1

Check your locale. gnome-terminal requires UTF-8 now.

cris9288 · 2014-03-31 15:40:29

Updated and running without any issues here. Only thing that I can say is worse than before is that some animations (switching from the desktop to the overview for example) don't appear to be as smooth as before. Other than that, nothing to report.

combuster · 2014-03-31 15:53:00

jdoe wrote:

Check your locale. gnome-terminal requires UTF-8 now.

Works, thnx jdoe

lains · 2014-03-31 15:53:50

lains wrote:

lains wrote:
ScionicSpectre wrote:
Odd, indeed- I noticed this on the official live image from the GNOME website, as well, but on my newly updated Arch installation, everything runs beautifully with no crashes. I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that I only recently uninstalled GNOME 3.10, so the config files for Epiphany must still be there somehow correcting this issue. Perhaps the Speed Dial page is expecting be populated with pre-existing information?

Maybe I should reinstall Arch then set the repo at install and do stuff fresh from the install...
I have relevant info.
epiphany[974]: segfault at 18 ip b453e0c3 sp bff06460 error 4 in libc-2.19.so[b44f7000+1a7000]
What is even this. Obfuscated Error codes are not nice.

Can someone help decode this error?

blackout23 · 2014-03-31 16:06:23

cris9288 wrote:

Updated and running without any issues here. Only thing that I can say is worse than before is that some animations (switching from the desktop to the overview for example) don't appear to be as smooth as before. Other than that, nothing to report.

Actually I find the animations more smooth especially the inital startup where it zooms in.

anarchticgrimm · 2014-03-31 19:03:29

Been testing it for a little while, no problems so far. Don't think it'll cause any kind of difficulties on my system. - I might stay with this until 3.12 hits the stable under Arch, having my fun.

zAo · 2014-03-31 19:40:05

I also couldn't wait and upgraded. Problem is that gdm just hangs; no messages in the journal or in terminal output.

When I manually start Xorg and run a random gnome application, I get:

epiphany: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: g_application_add_option_group

libgtk-3.so seems to be updated

$ ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      20 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0 -> libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5388104 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0

I run gtk3 3.12:

$ pacman -Q gtk3
gtk3 3.12.0-1

Running a gnome application in Wayland will stop with:

(epiphany:1907): Gdk-ERROR **: xdg_shell@15: error 0: incompatible version, server is 1 client wants 3
(core dumped)

Any suggestions? I use xf86-video-intel 2.99.911-1 and mesa 10.1.0-4.

Edit:
run:

pacman -S gnome-unstable/glib2

Last edited by zAo (2014-03-31 20:25:48)

conley · 2014-03-31 19:51:21

blackout23 wrote:

kjell wrote:
Installed on two laptops, both without issues so far. :=)
From what I've read, one can now supposedly create folders in the programs overview. I do not see this feature.....
You need Gnome Software for that which doesn't work on Arch anyway since the packagekit version would need to be patched for the newest pacman and Arch doesn't ship any AppStream Metadata either.
http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-software-on-arch/

You can manually create folders with dconf though; there isn't a good how-to, so I'll put something together in the wiki when I get a chance. In the meantime, here's what you do:

1. Create folder names: Open dconf and navigate to org.gnome.desktop.app-folders. For the folder-children value, put the names of your folders. For example, I put Utilities and Sundry like so:

['Utilities', 'Sundry']

Then use gsettings to set the desktop files for each app. Here is my reconstruction of the Sundry folder in Gnome 3.10 (to the best of my knowledge, anyway).

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.app-folders.folder:/org/gnome/desktop/app-folders/folders/Sundry/ apps "['alacarte.desktop', 'dconf-editor.desktop', 'file-roller.desktop', 'gnome-network-panel.desktop', 'gnome-power-statistics.desktop', 'gnome-sound-recorder.desktop', 'itweb-settings.desktop', 'javaws.desktop', 'orca.desktop', 'vinagre.desktop', 'gnome-control-center.desktop', 'nm-applet.desktop', 'nm-connection-editor.desktop']"

Note that the actual name of the folder does not show up in the shell. However, it does get all of those "useless" apps sorted and out of my way while still being accessible within the shell. So I'm happy Again, I will write up things more clearly on the wiki when I have some time (tonight probably).

fredbezies · 2014-03-31 20:00:07

zAo wrote:

I also couldn't wait and upgraded. Problem is that gdm just hangs; no messages in the journal or in terminal output.
When I manually start Xorg and run a random gnome application, I get:
epiphany: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: g_application_add_option_group
libgtk-3.so seems to be updated
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      20 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0 -> libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5388104 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0
I run gtk3 3.12:
$ pacman -Q gtk3
gtk3 3.12.0-1
Running a gnome application in Wayland will stop with:
(epiphany:1907): Gdk-ERROR **: xdg_shell@15: error 0: incompatible version, server is 1 client wants 3
(core dumped)
Any suggestions? I use xf86-video-intel 2.99.911-1 and mesa 10.1.0-4.

As far as I know, wayland support is still a work in progress. So, not really working

zAo · 2014-03-31 20:03:22

fredbezies wrote:

zAo wrote:
I also couldn't wait and upgraded. Problem is that gdm just hangs; no messages in the journal or in terminal output.
When I manually start Xorg and run a random gnome application, I get:
epiphany: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: g_application_add_option_group
libgtk-3.so seems to be updated
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      20 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0 -> libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5388104 Mar 25 09:44 /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0.1200.0
I run gtk3 3.12:
$ pacman -Q gtk3
gtk3 3.12.0-1
Running a gnome application in Wayland will stop with:
(epiphany:1907): Gdk-ERROR **: xdg_shell@15: error 0: incompatible version, server is 1 client wants 3
(core dumped)
Any suggestions? I use xf86-video-intel 2.99.911-1 and mesa 10.1.0-4.
As far as I know, wayland support is still a work in progress. So, not really working

Since Xorg doesn't work, I had to try

Any ideas on the g_application_add_option_group part?

neubauten84 · 2014-03-31 20:14:19

Hi there!
I stll have a small question mark on my wifi icon in gnome panel..but connection works fine...what's wrong??
Does anybody else get it??

brittyazel · 2014-03-31 20:21:14

Today after having a working 3.12 build yesterday, was left at a black screen upon booting today. I could still enter a tty shell, but it appeared as if gdm was failing to start over and over. I have to revert back to 3.10 to have a working desktop

combuster · 2014-03-31 20:47:44

tracker-extract process is @ 100% cpu load, maybe it's just indexing my home directory but there isn't any disk i/o nor does it's eating any memory.

lucian80 · 2014-03-31 20:51:42

Well, about this:

[test@arch .cache]$ epiphany 
** Message: Remote error from secret service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

** (WebKitWebProcess:25790): WARNING **: Error caching form data: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
** Message: Remote error from secret service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

** (WebKitWebProcess:25792): WARNING **: Error caching form data: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
** Message: Remote error from secret service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

** (WebKitWebProcess:25794): WARNING **: Error caching form data: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Solution:

pacman -S gnome-keyring

Arch Linux

#76 2014-03-31 11:20:43

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