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fredbezies

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Registered: 2011-07-28

Posts: 353

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Isn't gnome-keyring installed when you do a sudo pacman -S / yaourt -S gnome ?!

lucian80

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Registered: 2014-03-31

Posts: 6

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I did pacman -Syyu gnome-shell, and it did not install gnome-keyring, that's how I got the error

Isn't gnome-keyring installed when you do a sudo pacman -S / yaourt -S gnome ?!

tigrang

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Registered: 2014-03-31

Posts: 3

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

For those you have upgraded to 3.12, is going into overview considerably slower than it was in 3.10? When I tried out 3.11.90 I was getting half the performance, I wonder if it was fixed for the release before I upgrade. Thanks.

blackout23

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Registered: 2011-11-16

Posts: 781

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

No performance problems here.

Thorsten Reinbold

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From: Germany

Registered: 2011-12-06

Posts: 353

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Installed on two laptops, both without issues so far.   :=)

From what I've read, one can now supposedly create folders in the programs overview.  I do not see this feature.....

You need Gnome Software for that which doesn't work on Arch anyway since the packagekit version would need to be patched for the newest pacman and Arch doesn't ship any AppStream Metadata either.

http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-software-on-arch/

You can manually create folders with dconf though; there isn't a good how-to, so I'll put something together in the wiki when I get a chance. In the meantime, here's what you do:

1. Create folder names: Open dconf and navigate to org.gnome.desktop.app-folders. For the folder-children value, put the names of your folders. For example, I put Utilities and Sundry like so:

['Utilities', 'Sundry']

Then use gsettings to set the desktop files for each app. Here is my reconstruction of the Sundry folder in Gnome 3.10 (to the best of my knowledge, anyway).

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.app-folders.folder:/org/gnome/desktop/app-folders/folders/Sundry/ apps "['alacarte.desktop', 'dconf-editor.desktop', 'file-roller.desktop', 'gnome-network-panel.desktop', 'gnome-power-statistics.desktop', 'gnome-sound-recorder.desktop', 'itweb-settings.desktop', 'javaws.desktop', 'orca.desktop', 'vinagre.desktop', 'gnome-control-center.desktop', 'nm-applet.desktop', 'nm-connection-editor.desktop']"

Note that the actual name of the folder does not show up in the shell. However, it does get all of those "useless" apps sorted and out of my way while still being accessible within the shell. So I'm happy Again, I will write up things more clearly on the wiki when I have some time (tonight probably).

Thanks for that. A question: where is the config from the gsettings command stored in case I want to edit it later?

cris9288

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Registered: 2013-01-07

Posts: 348

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

For those you have upgraded to 3.12, is going into overview considerably slower than it was in 3.10? When I tried out 3.11.90 I was getting half the performance, I wonder if it was fixed for the release before I upgrade. Thanks.

It seems slightly more sluggish for me. I think it's somehow related to extensions and icon theme as I noticed an improvement when switching to the stock GNOME icon theme and disabling all extensions. I have a lot of those enabled, and some of them have been acting up since the update. I normally just get the extensions from extensions.gnome.org. Do they get automatically updated this way or would it be a better idea to get them from the AUR?

Last edited by cris9288 (2014-03-31 23:15:49)

blackout23

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Registered: 2011-11-16

Posts: 781

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

For those you have upgraded to 3.12, is going into overview considerably slower than it was in 3.10? When I tried out 3.11.90 I was getting half the performance, I wonder if it was fixed for the release before I upgrade. Thanks.

It seems slightly more sluggish for me. I think it's somehow related to extensions and icon theme as I noticed an improvement when switching to the stock GNOME icon theme and disabling all extensions. I have a lot of those enabled, and some of them have been acting up since the update. I normally just get the extensions from extensions.gnome.org. Do they get automatically updated this way or would it be a better idea to get them from the AUR?

If you have them from extensions.gnome.org you can click "update", when you switch to Gnome 3.12 in the tweak-tool. It will try to reinstall them from the website if they have been updated to be compatible. I fixed one myself by just editing its metadata.json in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions.

lains

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Registered: 2013-07-04

Posts: 14

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

After extensive testing I found out that the i686 pkg for Epiphany is a dupe/broken one and needs to be remade. The x86_64 pkg is the real one for both archtectures.

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JGC

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Registered: 2003-12-03

Posts: 1,664

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

All packages should be done now. These packages are still remaining:

## CORE
core:gnome-packagekit:3.12.0:

## APPS
apps:gitg:0.3.2:
apps:gnome-boxes:3.12.0:
apps:gnome-initial-setup:3.12.0:
apps:gnome-software:3.12.0:
apps:gnome-sound-recorder:3.12.0:
apps:nemiver:0.9.5:

Some of these are in community, some of these are packages that we don't have in any repository yet. I won't be doing the packagekit stuff, as packagekit doesn't support archlinux.

fredbezies

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Registered: 2011-07-28

Posts: 353

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

So, truly remaining : gnome-boxes, initial-setup, sound-recorder and nemiver ?

beta990

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Registered: 2011-07-10

Posts: 207

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Great work JGC!

It's look like there are only a few packages remaining.

I have an question about gnome-software: what is the status about it and how does it work?
Is it correct that gnome-software needs to be build separated? Is it like building a new pacman(-GUI) wrapper?

I'd thought it would just be a database (maintain by Gnome/Community) and the distro just linked towards the package(s).

Last edited by beta990 (2014-04-01 13:58:47)

conley

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Registered: 2013-01-09

Posts: 18

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

schnip schnip!

Thanks for that. A question: where is the config from the gsettings command stored in case I want to edit it later?

They show up in dconf; org.gnome.desktop.app-folders.folders has the folders you've entered. You can further edit them from there. Basically you're just editing the settings in two different ways; I just had trouble adding keys directly from dconf!

EDIT: I added a somewhat clearer walkthrough with some additional info here. Namely, I went through actually giving app-folders names, and sorting by category (and excluding certain apps from inclusion by category!).

Last edited by conley (2014-04-01 15:31:39)

Kopkins

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Registered: 2012-07-01

Posts: 189

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Only problem so far. Everything else seems to be running smoother and faster than before.

$ gnome-terminal
Error creating terminal: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)

$ sudo gnome-terminal
Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 1

Last edited by Kopkins (2014-04-01 16:51:30)

kba712

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Registered: 2013-03-16

Posts: 9

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Hey guys, I think I've found a bug. I can't seem to open MS Word 2010 in crossover. The application opens but it doesn't show up on screen. Is anyone else experiencing this?

marcoms

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From: London

Registered: 2014-04-01

Posts: 10

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Everything works in gnome-unstable, except gdm... For now I am using lightdm as a replacement, but here are some errors I've pulled from various logs:

journalctl

...
pr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - AMD Technologies Inc."
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 13.25.5
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: Module class: X.Org Video Driver
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE)
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) Backtrace:
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 0: /usr/bin/Xorg (xorg_backtrace+0x3d) [0x57e04d]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 1: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x400000+0x181da9) [0x581da9]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 2: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7feb79c8b000+0xf880) [0x7feb79c9a880]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so (0x7feb75c74000+0x3bc374) [0x7feb76030374]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so (0x7feb75c74000+0x3bbf0f) [0x7feb7602ff0f]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 5: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x400000+0x660fc) [0x4660fc]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 6: /usr/bin/Xorg (xf86LoadModules+0xba) [0x4759da]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 7: /usr/bin/Xorg (InitOutput+0x7bf) [0x47620f]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 8: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x400000+0x249db) [0x4249db]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 9: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x7feb78a40b05]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) 10: /usr/bin/Xorg (0x400000+0x24f0f) [0x424f0f]
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE)
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x0
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE)
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: Fatal server error:
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm-Xorg-:5[297]: (EE) Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
...

systemctl status gdm

Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:42:27 baguette32 gdm[257]: GLib-GObject: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GdmSimpleSlave'
Apr 01 18:54:03 baguette32 systemd[1]: Stopping GNOME Display Manager...
Apr 01 18:54:03 baguette32 systemd[1]: Stopped GNOME Display Manager.

The fact that lightdm works means this is definitely a problem with gdm.

kba712

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Registered: 2013-03-16

Posts: 9

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I had a problem with gdm as well but after installing glib2 from gnome-unstable it started working.

Jodell

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Registered: 2009-10-09

Posts: 285

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Did they remove tabs from gnome-terminal?

marcoms

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From: London

Registered: 2014-04-01

Posts: 10

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I have glib2:

$ pacman -Q glib2
glib2 2.40.0-1

marcoms

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From: London

Registered: 2014-04-01

Posts: 10

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Did they remove tabs from gnome-terminal?

No, just "New terminal" and Ctrl+N mean open a new terminal window, and Ctrl+T (tab) means new tab.

Jodell

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Registered: 2009-10-09

Posts: 285

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Did they remove tabs from gnome-terminal?

No, just "New terminal" and Ctrl+N mean open a new terminal window, and Ctrl+T (tab) means new tab.

Are you sure?

There is no "New Tab" option in the File menu, and Ctrl + T does not open a new tab for me.

EDIT: After looking at the shortcut keys, Shift+ Ctrl + T for a new tab, and Shift + Ctrl + N for a new window.

Last edited by Jodell (2014-04-01 19:33:37)

whitebrice

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Registered: 2013-12-20

Posts: 33

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I may have found a bug with Nautilus. Whenever I select a network share in Nautilus' side pane, it takes me to the home directory of the user I logged in as instead of taking me to the directory I told it to mount in the "Connect to Server" dialog.

Can anyone else reproduce this behavior?

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kba712

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Registered: 2013-03-16

Posts: 9

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

I have glib2:

$ pacman -Q glib2
glib2 2.40.0-1

Yeah thats weird, because when I moved the gnome-unstable repo above the core repo, it installed glib2 and gdm started working again

marcoms

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From: London

Registered: 2014-04-01

Posts: 10

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Did they remove tabs from gnome-terminal?

No, just "New terminal" and Ctrl+N mean open a new terminal window, and Ctrl+T (tab) means new tab.

Are you sure?

There is no "New Tab" option in the File menu, and Ctrl + T does not open a new tab for me.

EDIT: After looking at the shortcut keys, Shift+ Ctrl + T for a new tab, and Shift + Ctrl + N for a new window.

Yeah sorry about that - forgot the shift key.

JGC

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Registered: 2003-12-03

Posts: 1,664

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Your gdm issue is a crashing X server. Probably a bug in fglrx, not gdm.

As for gnome-terminal... it needs a utf8 locale, C locale won't work anymore.

cris9288

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Registered: 2013-01-07

Posts: 348

Re: Gnome 3.12 Beta

Anyone else no longer have the gnome-session-properties command/desktop file? I know I can just edit the contents of ~/.config/autostart and /etc/xdg/autostart but I kind of liked this tool. Has it changed names?