All browsers freeze system with some pages on x86_64+nvidia[SOLVED]

nomorewindows · 2014-10-11 22:05:10

I noticed this time that when I was switching back to nvidia-304xx that ati-dri and some others from the fresh install were still installed. I don't think this makes any difference as to nvidia, but it did resolve the mesa-libgl problem, when I do pacman -S nvidia-304xx. So when I did updates on the trouble machine, I had logged into the X session, but it wasn't doing anything. It downloaded everything just fine, but when it started installing updates, about half way through it was totally locked up. Rebooted, and it continued with the rest of the updates without logging into X. Would seem to point to another problem if it locks up when I'm not even running X. But since this box has an nvidia motherboard???

pendor · 2014-10-11 22:13:32

Good question. My problem seems to have gone, or at least minimized, after last update... Stay tuned...

pendor · 2014-10-12 21:22:50

One day later, no problems up to now. I keep my fingers crossed. If this goes on tomorrow, I'll tagged the thread as SOLVED, even though I don't actually know what the solution finally was...

nomorewindows · 2014-10-12 23:59:02

We'll have to see how the trouble machine holds up for this round.

jakub · 2014-10-17 12:09:14

Recently I'm also experiencing strange performance loss (or freezes for few secs) with Firefox/Chromium on arch using nvidia-304xx (I have Quadro NVS 140M).... and don't know what to do about it. I'll start checking if hardware is not failing as the laptop is 6 years old.

According to this page: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html NVS 140M should be supported by 340xx (not 304xx). Somehow I had problem starting X with 340xx. Are you guys using 340xx? Anyone using it on NVS 140M?

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nomorewindows · 2014-10-17 12:27:36

jakub wrote:

Recently I'm also experiencing strange performance loss (or freezes for few secs) with Firefox/Chromium on arch using nvidia-304xx (I have Quadro NVS 140M).... and don't know what to do about it. I'll start checking if hardware is not failing as the laptop is 6 years old.
According to this page: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html NVS 140M should be supported by 340xx (not 304xx). Somehow I had problem starting X with 340xx. Are you guys using 340xx? Anyone using it on NVS 140M?

I'm not sure, because the nvidia.de card listing says that it falls under 331 now. Check your Xorg.0.log for clues. Nvidia has recently made a split on some of their cards between 340xx and 304xx. There doesn't seem to be a 331 in any of the repos or aur.

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jakub · 2014-10-17 12:55:17

What could I see then in Xorg.0.log was something similar to:

(EE) Mar 07 14:05:07 NVIDIA(0): WAIT: (E, 0, 0x837d, 0)

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=188082

nomorewindows · 2014-10-17 16:02:09

Wait a second...there's a package in AUR for Thinkpad T61...as per your signature line. t61p-xconf: It says it is for Quadro FX 570M, but might work. Looks like just a X config file for it, so I can't tell how well that will work.

jakub · 2014-10-17 16:59:42

Theres XF86Config file inside... the package is quiet old. I'll try to reinstall once again driver, use 340xx version and create configuration with nvidia-xconfig

pendor · 2014-10-17 22:48:12

Updates: Firefox still misbehaves... in Facebook, it start slowing, then video stops, then mouse stops, then video goes black. Chromium works flawlessly, by the way. Latest AIMP (I love this app), running under wine, crashes system after running for a while (four or five songs)....

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jakub · 2014-10-18 07:46:19

What concerns nvidia-340xx driver I still can't make it working. Separate thread created here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=188527

snovik · 2014-10-19 13:32:52

I seem to have similar problem with integrated Intel video card. My research shows that it might need kernel iommu=soft. Does not seem to help me though. There is an idea that the problem started somewhere around 3.9-10. Just wanted to mention because I also get quite desperate. Cannot browse any Web and how is one supposed to live without it? :-)

ganlu · 2014-10-19 13:46:10

I got my firefox freezing randomly after update, I have intel integrated display card, so I don't think it is an issue of Nvidia. However, I suspect it's caused by gtk, since I don't have this problem when running firefox under xwayland (through gdm with wayland session), and don't have this problem neither when running bianry build from mozilla website under normal gnome session.

snovik · 2014-10-19 13:58:28

Well, next week I am going to try Ubuntu 13.04 which is on kernel 3.8. Will report my experience

nomorewindows · 2014-10-19 14:17:43

ganlu wrote:

I got my firefox freezing randomly after update, I have intel integrated display card, so I don't think it is an issue of Nvidia. However, I suspect it's caused by gtk, since I don't have this problem when running firefox under xwayland (through gdm with wayland session), and don't have this problem neither when running bianry build from mozilla website under normal gnome session.

This thread is more about problems with flash and nvidia than it is about the recent problems with firefox. Wayland might be an interesting direction to go, but I'm not sure it will change the mileage some of us are having with nvidia.

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snovik · 2014-10-20 19:26:26

since I promised.... clean ubuntu 13.04 with only latest chrome updated to v38. The issue remains. Youtube freezes the system

nomorewindows · 2014-10-20 19:36:01

snovik wrote:

since I promised.... clean ubuntu 13.04 with only latest chrome updated to v38. The issue remains. Youtube freezes the system

I think 14 something is the latest Ubuntu.

snovik · 2014-10-20 19:54:58

yes sure. my idea was to try on some pre-3.10 kernel and ubuntu 13.04 was the easiest way. So the problem is not about (recent) kernel/drivers unless there is something really-really special about recent chrome builds which can freeze the system

nomorewindows · 2014-10-20 19:58:56

Depends on whether you are using flash and it crashes. Maybe they should rename it crash.

snovik · 2014-10-20 20:01:21

actually ubuntu does not have flash by default. that is why i had to upgrade chrome to 38 and use html5. so the problem is also not flash related

at least in my case it does not seem to be

and on my main system I do not have flash plugin. so it is definitely not flash

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nomorewindows · 2014-10-20 20:09:23

You're using a browser besides FF on Ubuntu, and not even flash and the computer crashes. Interesting from an Arch standpoint, but you were also having problems on Arch. Probably a hardware problem?

snovik · 2014-10-20 20:15:30

Yeah, looks like. Interestingly I had the arch same install since whatever and did not have this problem until a year or so. Which is why I had to give old ubuntu a shot and try old kernel/drivers.

On the other note any regular video like avi etc play just fine. And I have no other problems with video or system performance. So it is really the way chrome/firefox (and i also tried luakit) do their video rendering.

Actually thinking of it... might give opera a try. They seem to have had their prop web rendering engines or?

Optional dependencies for opera
    gstreamer0.10-base-plugins: HTML5 Video support [installed]
    gstreamer0.10-good: HTML5 Video support [installed]

nah, not that simple

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nomorewindows · 2014-10-20 20:25:33

snovik wrote:

Yeah, looks like. Interestingly I had the arch same install since whatever and did not have this problem until a year or so. Which is why I had to give old ubuntu a shot and try old kernel/drivers.
On the other note any regular video like avi etc play just fine. And I have no other problems with video or system performance. So it is really the way chrome/firefox (and i also tried luakit) do their video rendering.
Actually thinking of it... might give opera a try. They seem to have had their prop web rendering engines or?
Optional dependencies for opera
    gstreamer0.10-base-plugins: HTML5 Video support [installed]
    gstreamer0.10-good: HTML5 Video support [installed]
nah, not that simple

Well there is some sort of problem with FF in some other threads. FF is completely going blank with no response. But Aurora-nightly works just fine.

jakub · 2014-10-21 08:04:52

FF is completely going blank with no response.

From time tom time I can experience same thing. Sometimes after resuming from stand-by. I'm also not sure if problems are not related to gnome installation as recently I installed Gnome to try it out. Is it possible??

nomorewindows · 2014-10-21 17:19:57

They think it has to possibly do with evince and a pdf plugin.

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