Dell XPS 13 9350 Late 2015

nos1609 · 2016-11-01 19:40:26

Just an addition about the NVME

Found the original driver from OCZ hich will fit every xps with TOSHIBA m.2
https://ocz.com/download/drivers/nvme/l … 39.tar.bz2
Just don't know how to build it from source. It might help reaching the extended power states. They are also ready precompiled debs and rpms, but lastest kernel supported is 3.19.

frank604 · 2016-11-01 19:46:26

@kgizdov, forgot to mention I've sorted the hidpi with lowpdi external monitor. I wrote what I did here. Long story short is to turn down resolution on my hidpi to 1920x1080. Fonts are still crisp and clear and I don't notice the difference. Thank you for your response.

@supahotfireee looks like the nvme patch is already merged in 4.9.x of intel drm nightly. You can just install the default intel drm nightly aur package now to stay on this branch. I no longer need to patch anything in and of course, all the latest and greatest intel fixes are implemented in this branch miles ahead of mainline linux.

zetxx · 2016-11-02 13:28:07

did anyone tried new nvme patches https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kerne … nvme/power ?
also xps13 kernel branch (https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kerne … g/?h=xps13) ?

iv597 · 2016-11-02 15:08:37

kgizdov wrote:

The other day, I was going through some of the commits in 4.8.5 and 4.8.6 and saw a few directly related to i915 and the sleep/wake cycle specifically for the Dell XPS. So I compiled 4.8.6, installed and now all is well with the world. I can close the lid without worrying about crashes or stuff (touchscreen) not working after I open it back. Also the screen flicker with external monitors seems to be gone. And I find it all more snappy with the patches addressing IO starvation. Try it yourself, I am very happy with it.
P.S. 4.8.6 is now in the packages, so you can just pull it with the update.

I didn't even get far enough to test external display flicker, because my keyboard (plugged into a WD15 USB-C dock) was dropping keystrokes left and right with that kernel.

So far linux-zen==4.7.6 is still the best kernel I've found for this device. Screen flicker only on one of my external displays, maybe 10% of plug ins, suspend/resume works about 50-75% of the time (actually nearly 100% if I didn't plug in a USB-C dock at any point since boot, the dock seems to be what kills s/r), and I've gotten 12 hours of active usage out of the battery (16 if I'm taking breaks every so often, which I usually am). I have this package locked in pacman.conf until I find a better kernel release (I test with the base `linux` package)

kgizdov · 2016-11-02 16:50:22

@zetxx, It seems the Dell XPS branch forked off in 4.9rc2, so I will wait until it merges 4.9rc3 and the NVMe patches until I try it. I don't want to go off and spend time doing it myself tbh. Maybe you can make a PKGBUILD for us if you make it work.

@iv597, I can regretfully confirm trouble with the USB-C. I'm using the DA-200 and even though I do not have problems initially, if I leave my desk and let the laptop go into powersave, it will never come back. Complete system crash. This only happens with adaptor plugged in. I have no idea why, but journalctl has a "KERNEL RIP" error, which I have never ever seen before in my life. This is pretty bad. For now, I'm not using my external screen and posted a bug here - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98528

If anyone else is experiencing such problems please write on the bug report page, so it gets fixed.

@frank604, are you building intel-drm-nightly directly from AUR or do you have your own PKGBUILD. Could you share as I'm willing to try if it helps solving my issues? (P.S. Why don't you try directly running weston so you can do away with managing DPIs yourself completely)

novelistxyz · 2016-11-03 11:00:21

Does anyone have issues with bluetooth with Intel 8260?

Bluetooth fails after suspend/resume on my XPS 13. I have to manually remove and add back btusb everytime after suspend/resume. I have no problem with bluetooth on another machine with Intel 8260.

Currently on kernel 4.8.6.

belette · 2016-11-03 18:01:00

That's strange I never been able to get more than 832x624 and I tested on multiple monitor with different brands..
A curiosity, have you ever update the firwmare of the DA200? I saw an available update on Dell website but it is a Windows executable only so I never updated it...

Today I also experimented a bad issue where on some monitor even the VGA is not recognized by some TV, I was in a customer site and the screen was never recognized... two times I got the issue and two time during a presentation too bad.. I get back home and connected to my TV and it is recognized correctly, like sometimes the adapter doesn't send a signal to the TV or not receiving the signal.

Anyone experiments something similar?

kgizdov wrote:

bkuri wrote:
I've been getting monitor glitches since before 4.8.2, but it has definitely gotten worse with this latest update.
I have 2 monitors connected through a TB15 dock, and the XPS13 monitor glitches every now and then when I connect it. Now with this latest update the right external monitor glitches sometimes when I go through monitor edges with the mouse pointer as well.
belette wrote:
It seems to be better on 4.8.x
-Ethernet connection seems to work and is stable now...
-VGA is working also on high resolution (2500+)
-HDMI is now the only remaining issue where the maximum resolution is 832x624 !
On this last point anyone has been able to get better and how ?
Many thanks
I was always able to get up to *x720 or *x960 on HDMI depending on monitor. Also Ethernet was always good for me. But since 4.8.x stuff just keeps getting worse and worse. Now with 4.8.4, my TPM is not recognised. The kernel just doesn't initiate it.
# ls /sys/class/tpm/
#
On top of that, as soon as I close my lid, my laptop freezes and after a while crashes completely. Screen flicker is still a problem for me on dual screens. Not sure what they did in 4.8, but it's ruined my otherwise very capable machine.

shinyquagsire23 · 2016-11-03 18:58:51

Anyone else having issues with the headphone jack in 4.8.6-1? I was on 4.7.2-1 before updating and now only the speakers work, no audio from headphones at all. If I dual boot into Windows they work fine there, however.

EDIT: Switch to linux-zen and the issue is gone now, weird.
EDIT 2: Never mind the issue came back after I went to sleep mode

Last edited by shinyquagsire23 (2016-11-03 19:23:43)

vtrac · 2016-11-06 16:00:54

Anyone seeing their 9350 run super hot recently? I'm pretty sure it's related to my upgrade to 4.8.6-1-ARCH, but for the last few days, my fan has been on full time and gnome-shell is reporting 80-83 C. Obviously the bottom is super hot too.

Edit: Killed some chrome tabs and now at idle, it's high 50 / low 60's. Is that what everyone else is seeing?

Last edited by vtrac (2016-11-06 16:15:34)

SupaHotFireee · 2016-11-06 23:16:58

@frank064, thanks for the update! It looks like the intel-drm-nightly build on the AUR hasn't been updated since 8-26, which is quite far behind the 4.9 build you posted. Anyway, I still cant seem to get my external monitors working, should I just assume my hub is defective? I would try it in windows but resizing my LVM partitions just to temporarily install windows does not seem worth it.

frank604 · 2016-11-06 23:19:48

@shinyquagsire23, without more details it sounds like a module. I would try to manually reload modules related to sound after a suspend/resume cycle to see if that solves your issue. I would create a new thread in newbie section just for this as this sounds like a configuration issue. Alsa? alsa + pulse? Default configs or modified? Headphone jack from laptop or from dock?

@vtrac, On 9350 i5 FHD, I was idling around mid/high 30's. Turn on youtube and easily 40/50s. Compiling and I would get to 60/70's max. With a 9360 i7 QHD, I idle mid 50s.

@supahotfireee, yeah I'll be working on my repo this week when I find time. What dock do you have? What issue is it again? No monitor? I usually use xrandr to turn on external monitors. Set my primary. Then save this using autorandr-git. Then I keybind to autorandr --change or autorandr --load <profile>. If you trying to output to external, post

xrandr -q

and then show us your xrandr line you used to set it up. For example my output is:

frank604@XPS13 /usr/sbin % xrandr -q                                                        
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
eDP-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   3200x1800     59.98 +  47.99  
   2048x1536     60.00  
   1920x1440     60.00  
   1856x1392     60.01  
   1792x1344     60.01  
   1600x1200     60.00  
   1400x1050     59.98  
   1280x1024     60.02  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1024x768      60.04    60.00  
   960x720       60.00  
   928x696       60.05  
   896x672       60.01  
   800x600       60.00    60.32    56.25  
   700x525       59.98  
   640x512       60.02  
   640x480       60.00    59.94  
   512x384       60.00  
   400x300       60.32    56.34  
   320x240       60.05  
   1920x1080_60.00  59.96  
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm
   1920x1080     60.00*+  60.00    50.00    59.94    59.99  
   1600x1200     60.00  
   1680x1050     59.88  
   1280x1024     75.02    60.02  
   1440x900      59.90  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1366x768      59.79  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1280x720      60.00    60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1024x768      75.03    70.07    60.00  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32    56.25  
   720x576       50.00    50.00  
   720x480       60.00    60.00    59.94    59.94    59.94  
   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    60.00    59.94    59.94  
   720x400       70.08  
DP-1-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1-3 connected 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm
   1920x1080     60.00*+
   1600x1200     60.00  
   1680x1050     59.95  
   1280x1024     75.02    60.02  
   1440x900      59.89  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1024x768      75.03    70.07    60.00  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32    56.25  
   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    59.94  
   720x400       70.08

And to turn off my internal monitor (eDP-1) but turn on my dual external monitors (DP-1-1 and DP-1-3) here is my xrandr line:

xrandr --output eDP-1 --off --output DP-1-1 --auto --output DP-1-3 --auto --right-of DP-1-1

To save it in autorandr:

autorandr --save docked

"docked" is just the name of the profile.

Because I have a QHD screen, if I want to use my internal, I'll need to set it up like:

xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode eDP-1 1920x1080_60.00   
xrandr --output eDP-1 --mode 1920x1080_60.00

Then I would:

xrandr --output eDP-1 --mode 1920x1080 --output DP-1-1 --off --output DP-1-3 --off

To save it in autorandr:

 autorandr --save mobile

Autorandr detects your monitor setup so I just need to do:

autorandr --change

This will change display output based on which of my profiles are detected.

Last edited by frank604 (2016-11-06 23:27:56)

SupaHotFireee · 2016-11-07 03:52:58

@frank, the issue is they wont show up on xrandr. The output of xrandr -q is

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3200 x 1800, maximum 8192 x 8192
eDP-1 connected 3200x1800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 294mm x 165mm
   3200x1800     59.98*+  47.99  
   2048x1536     60.00  
   1920x1440     60.00  
   1856x1392     60.01  
   1792x1344     60.01  
   1600x1200     60.00  
   1400x1050     59.98  
   1280x1024     60.02  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1024x768      60.04    60.00  
   960x720       60.00  
   928x696       60.05  
   896x672       60.01  
   800x600       60.00    60.32    56.25  
   700x525       59.98  
   640x512       60.02  
   640x480       60.00    59.94  
   512x384       60.00  
   400x300       60.32    56.34  
   320x240       60.05  
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

I'm not sure how to get them to show up.

robsmith11 · 2016-11-07 20:39:10

Is anyone able to charge a phone via a USB 2 cable using their 9350?

I've tried two android phones and while both show the charging indicator, they continue to discharge at a normal rate.

The only power saving tweaks I've done are what was suggested by powertop. I disabled the USB auto suspend tweaks in case they were preventing charging, but that had no effect.

belette · 2016-11-09 18:25:31

RRRrrrr just want to make a comment on this one :
I was about to sale my XPS for a Razer Blaze Stealth with a included HDMI port because of this issue, I gave a last chance and bought another usb c adapter (cable matters) and it works perfectly...
Dell DA200 is a very ****** product..I lost months and months trying to understand the issue on my XPS and it was only an issue on the adapter side...
Don't spend too much time on this DA200 if you have issues!
Now I can get full HD or more on HDMI and same thing on VGA and a working Ethernet port, I was thinking to get a dock station from Dell but I would probably only buy another power adapter as this adapter gives about all I need!

belette wrote:

That's strange I never been able to get more than 832x624 and I tested on multiple monitor with different brands..
A curiosity, have you ever update the firwmare of the DA200? I saw an available update on Dell website but it is a Windows executable only so I never updated it...
Today I also experimented a bad issue where on some monitor even the VGA is not recognized by some TV, I was in a customer site and the screen was never recognized... two times I got the issue and two time during a presentation too bad.. I get back home and connected to my TV and it is recognized correctly, like sometimes the adapter doesn't send a signal to the TV or not receiving the signal.
Anyone experiments something similar?
kgizdov wrote:
bkuri wrote:
I've been getting monitor glitches since before 4.8.2, but it has definitely gotten worse with this latest update.
I have 2 monitors connected through a TB15 dock, and the XPS13 monitor glitches every now and then when I connect it. Now with this latest update the right external monitor glitches sometimes when I go through monitor edges with the mouse pointer as well.
belette wrote:
It seems to be better on 4.8.x
-Ethernet connection seems to work and is stable now...
-VGA is working also on high resolution (2500+)
-HDMI is now the only remaining issue where the maximum resolution is 832x624 !
On this last point anyone has been able to get better and how ?
Many thanks
I was always able to get up to *x720 or *x960 on HDMI depending on monitor. Also Ethernet was always good for me. But since 4.8.x stuff just keeps getting worse and worse. Now with 4.8.4, my TPM is not recognised. The kernel just doesn't initiate it.
# ls /sys/class/tpm/
#
On top of that, as soon as I close my lid, my laptop freezes and after a while crashes completely. Screen flicker is still a problem for me on dual screens. Not sure what they did in 4.8, but it's ruined my otherwise very capable machine.

frank604 · 2016-11-09 19:11:50

I realized quite a few are having issues with docks/adaptors. Maybe we should add in the archwiki for the xps on which ones work and which ones are buggy? Also writing bugs upstream would help get compatibility for those adaptors much faster. Please do.

kgizdov · 2016-11-09 22:10:55

@belette, what cable did you get exactly and which adapter are you now using? What is the setup that solved your issues - Ethernet, VGA, etc? If you're not happy with the DA200, what did you switch to?

Aezriel · 2016-11-11 12:14:56

Hey guys!
After using Arch since a few months now Im still left with 3 major problems... I dont know if its normal and its only me who cares, but I cant find much (or atleast nothing that helps) about them.
First the sound quality is really really bad compared to what Im used to from Windows 10. For example if I hear this song I cant hear the bass anymore, and also if I tune the volume loud I can hear vibration noises from the boxes.
Secondly the gnome environment feels really laggy, for example when I open the application menu or press super it reacts with a delay and the animation has low fps... I use Gnome 3.22.2 and tried out both wayland and x.
Lastly the battery life isnt that good. I get around 6 hours in medium use. I already installed nvme-linux.

~ » uname -r
4.8.7-1-ARCH
~ » lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 08)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 520 (rev 07)
00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 08)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 21)
00:15.1 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 21)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 21)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d10 (rev f1)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 21)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)
3a:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
3b:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
3c:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller (rev 01)

Id really appreciate everything that could help me solve these problems, beacause they are kinda essential for me.

cheers

kgizdov · 2016-11-12 09:50:02

@Aezriel, just general advice - read both the wiki pages for XPS 13 2015 and 2016 and check you haven't missed something. There are definitely tweaks for the audio there. Also check the wiki pages for other core packages you have installed - kernel, kernel mode setting, Intel graphics, hardware acceleration (libva and va-api), TLP, HiDPI, Gnome, etc. Then check any AUR packages that you have and see if those are also correctly configured. Finally, use System Monitor and check if some process isn't using up resources. I actually prefer htop for this. I'm running Gnome and lately it's been laggy mostly because of the crappy kernel 4.8

belette · 2016-11-12 12:05:23

hi kgizdov, my issue was origininaly a flapping Ethernet connection on DA200, this was solved in some kernel update (I don't remember which one).
Another issue from the begining and never solved for me (apparently working for other users) is that HDMI is working only on very low resolution.
Bought a Cable Matters model 201014-BLK : all issues solved! So now I got a good solution when I need to present something @ my customer.

But because I am not a resentful person I bought a WD15 from Dell to see if it could be a good solution for home to connect to a huge ultra wide screen, next week I'll get 14 days to test before deciding to keep it or to return to Dell...

frank604 wrote:

I realized quite a few are having issues with docks/adaptors. Maybe we should add in the archwiki for the xps on which ones work and which ones are buggy? Also writing bugs upstream would help get compatibility for those adaptors much faster. Please do.

OdinEidolon · 2016-11-13 13:57:05

I use the XPS15, but the touchpad is similar.
I recently updated from 4.7 to 4.8, and I noticed a big step back in the touchpad. It has some kind of lag now, and it hangs sometimes. Did anyone notice anything similar?

I'm using Libinput.

zetxx · 2016-11-14 09:38:24

OdinEidolon wrote:

I use the XPS15, but the touchpad is similar.
I recently updated from 4.7 to 4.8, and I noticed a big step back in the touchpad. It has some kind of lag now, and it hangs sometimes. Did anyone notice anything similar?
I'm using Libinput.

+1 but im experiencing it from time to time

OdinEidolon · 2016-11-14 09:39:04

zetxx wrote:

OdinEidolon wrote:
I use the XPS15, but the touchpad is similar.
I recently updated from 4.7 to 4.8, and I noticed a big step back in the touchpad. It has some kind of lag now, and it hangs sometimes. Did anyone notice anything similar?
I'm using Libinput.
+1 but im experiencing it from time to time

And not on 4.7 right?

trix · 2016-11-14 11:40:40

Hello,

If someone has the same problem than me, i have created a topic about huge Flickering issues due to recent update :

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219543

iv597 · 2016-11-14 16:41:24

Even the latest kernel (4.8.7 I believe?) was a mess. It was so close to working on my FHD model (I didn't get a chance to test suspend/resume), but my split keyboard (Mistel Barocco) would lose connection to the "slave" half every 10-30 seconds while connected through the WD15 dock. Wasn't getting display flicker or intermittent keypress dropping, at least?...

So far 4.7.6-zen is by far the best kernel for this device for my use, but all the problems I've had have definitely soured my taste for anything USB-C related on Linux for a bit. That's what I get for trying first-gen hardware, I guess.

I haven't gotten a chance to try any of the 4.9 series kernels from miffe's repo as I depend on VirtualBox host modules for work, and those (along with everything else dkms-triggered on my system) fail to build against that kernel.

zetxx · 2016-11-14 19:56:43

OdinEidolon wrote:

zetxx wrote:
OdinEidolon wrote:
I use the XPS15, but the touchpad is similar.
I recently updated from 4.7 to 4.8, and I noticed a big step back in the touchpad. It has some kind of lag now, and it hangs sometimes. Did anyone notice anything similar?
I'm using Libinput.
+1 but im experiencing it from time to time
And not on 4.7 right?

i think so.

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