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#126 2004-09-14 09:08:36

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Tested xorg 6.8.0 and Ati-drivers 3.9.0 (reinstalled drivers after Xorg upgrade).

TERRIBLE sad! Xserver crashes all the time. Sometimes during starting KDE sometimes short after. Used my old xorg.config. Do i have to make a new one?

I'll try 3.12.0 later. And strange: KDE doesn't have any Menu-entries anymore  :shock: ! Seems i have to reinstall KDE too.

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#127 2004-09-14 13:37:09

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

No, I suspect your xorg.conf shouldn't have to change very much.
Guess the safest thing to do is wait until ATI supports xorg instead of XFree86.
Frankly, we are lucky the drivers work as stable as they do with xorg.
Here's Gentoo's solution to the problem:

            eerror "you are using a xorg-x11 version too new !!!"
            eerror "You must downgrade to xorg-x11-6.7.0 otherwise"
            eerror "trying to use opengl will crash X"
            die "Better safe than sorry."

rage3d.net discussion on xorg-6.8.0 & fglrx-3.12.0. The jist of it is fglrx drivers don't do any 3D/OpenGL stuff with xorg-6.8.0. So either switch back to the radeon driver, or stay with xorg-6.7.0.

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#128 2004-09-18 03:57:46

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

I made 3.12.0 packages. My testing results in better framerates in glxgears than the 3.11.1 version. I'll be building a kernel26mm package and uploading them shortly.

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#129 2004-09-18 15:03:28

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Nobody has tried my pkgbuild?

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#130 2004-09-18 15:37:40

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

kleptophobiac wrote:

Nobody has tried my pkgbuild?

lol, I'm not even sure people are using my PKGBUILDs.

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#131 2004-09-18 19:00:16

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Well i use now xorgs builtin radeon driver. That way i have only MESA-support but at least xvideo works  tongue (why didn't ATi get it working :evil: ) ! The only game i play is DAoC under WinXP. So it doesn't matter. Hopefully "radeon" supports OpenGL in the future for my Radeon 9600XT.

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#132 2004-09-19 01:48:51

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

I've used links package builds and they work fine...


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#133 2004-09-19 17:43:20

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

I installed links 3.12.0 packages for current xorg. They work fine except no direct rendering.

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#134 2004-09-19 21:06:44

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Right, I've read that 3D stuff will not work. I'm sticking with xorg 6.7.0 until ATI puts out 6.8.x drivers, and even then if they are worse than the 3.12.0 drivers, I'm staying with it. I have no desire for all that nifty compositing stuff, so I'll only upgrade to 6.8.x when I have a need to.

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#135 2004-09-19 21:20:51

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Do you by chance have a 6.7 xorg package lying around somewhere?

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#136 2004-09-19 22:39:08

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#137 2004-09-23 07:13:14

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

help ! for some reason my system dosen't have agpgart and i think this why I can'g get

[bain@BAIN ~]$ glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
direct rendering: No

to work


[bain@BAIN ~]$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
fglrx                 217796  0
ne2k_pci               10080  0
8390                   11904  1 ne2k_pci
crc32                   4992  1 8390
snd_emu10k1           103560  0
snd_rawmidi            26916  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_seq_device          8840  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec         71940  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_util_mem            5248  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep              10244  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm_oss            57768  0
snd_pcm               105220  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc         12424  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_timer              28420  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          21248  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    60772  10 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore              11360  1 snd
ide_scsi               18436  0
usbserial              30696  0
rtc                    14664  0
evdev                  10368  0
usb_storage           103056  0
ati_remote             13576  0
[bain@BAIN ~]$

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#138 2004-09-23 13:23:54

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Are you using the stock kernel image?

Also, http://files.subpop.net/configs/xorg.conf is my working xorg.conf for the ATI drivers.

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#139 2004-09-23 16:39:15

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

i tried your xorg.conf but still no DRI and i get 100 frames less then before using glx gears


[bain@BAIN ~]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_multisample
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.1)
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  1 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x27 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x28 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  1 0 None
0x29 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x2a 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None

should it say

OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org   ?

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#140 2004-09-23 17:30:00

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

When you installed my ati-drivers pkg, did you --force to overwrite the libGL.so.1.2?

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#141 2004-09-23 17:54:39

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

yep, not sure if overwrote libgl

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#142 2004-09-23 23:32:37

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

For everyone having trouble
just use xorg 6.7    works for me now tongue


all you have todo is edit the PKGbuild and  compile xorg 6.7 then just rerun the ati install un patched and your good

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#143 2004-09-24 07:44:45

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Yes, these drivers (my packages) won't work with xorg-6.8.x. I am mirroring the xorg-6.7.0 package on my website. Its posted earlier in this thread.

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#144 2004-09-25 09:48:47

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

I have read and read this post again and again. But before I start following the steps on my computer, I'm wondering if these drivers apply for me. I will list the specs on my computer and can someone tell me if these drivers apply to me. My problem with my computer is that It works well. but when i run for example, tuxkart, or any game, i dont get "direct rendering". The game is super slow. I just can't play any games.

::::::::from lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device cab0 (rev 13)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc U1/A3 AGP Bridge [IGP 320M] (rev 01)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1

My computer is a HP Pavilion ze4400 with an AMD athlon-XP-M processor. I'm using 2.6.8.1 kernel.

Thanks.

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#145 2004-09-25 11:56:34

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

I think they will work for you.

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#146 2004-09-30 15:22:36

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

New ATI drivers version 3.14.1 are out. BUT ... still no xorg support, xvideo still isn't fixed and then that cwm13.gif ...

Known Issues


The following section provides a brief description of known issues associated with the latest version of ATI proprietary Linux driver. These issues include:
· TV Display is corrupt after switching resolutions
· 3D Linux applications corrupt or hang with "force multi-sample visuals" enabled
· X Fails to load on systems with Linux kernel version 2.6.x

Hmm ... seems like i realy have to buy a Nvidia card  :evil: !

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#147 2004-09-30 22:38:24

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Man, ATI's gotta get their ass in gear. They can't release crap like that. I'm not even going to bother packaging 3.14.1 if it won't load on 2.6.

ActionNews wrote:

New ATI drivers version 3.14.1 are out. BUT ... still no xorg support, xvideo still isn't fixed and then that cwm13.gif ...

Known Issues


The following section provides a brief description of known issues associated with the latest version of ATI proprietary Linux driver. These issues include:
· TV Display is corrupt after switching resolutions
· 3D Linux applications corrupt or hang with "force multi-sample visuals" enabled
· X Fails to load on systems with Linux kernel version 2.6.x

Hmm ... seems like i realy have to buy a Nvidia card  :evil: !

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#148 2004-10-01 02:27:12

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

ATI's linux support almost seems to be going backwards... What kind of halfassed solution doesn't support 2.6?

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#149 2004-10-01 02:29:17

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

kleptophobiac wrote:

ATI's linux support almost seems to be going backwards... What kind of halfassed solution doesn't support 2.6?

I bet because the "supported" operating system is Red Hat Enterprise 3, which is based on the 2.4 kernel, ATI is still only supporting 2.4. They don't care about 2.6 yet.

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#150 2004-10-01 08:55:58

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Re: [HOW-TO] Ati Radeon & Kernel 2.6 - Updated

Well at least they give a solution smile:

X Fails to load on systems with Linux kernel version 2.6.x
This information applies to the following system configurations:

Linux kernel version 2.6.x
Any ATI Linux driver
A blank screen may appear momentarily when X starts to load. The following error message (or similar) may appear on the text console or in /var/log/XFree86.0.log:

(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error ""xf86_ENODEV""

This is not a problem with the display driver.

Version 2.6 kernels require a second kernel module in addition to agpgart, which should be named similar to the manufacturer of your motherboard AGP chipset. This error message should occur if the other agp module is not loaded.

This issue can be worked around as follows:

First make sure that agpgart is loading properly.
To find out which AGP controller your motherboard uses, issue the following command: lspci | grep AGP
To find a list of AGP related kernel modules installed on your machine, issue the following command and look for a module (*.ko file) that suits your AGP Controller: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp
Use the modprobe command (as root) to load the module. For example: On a motherboard using a VIA® AGP Controller, you would load the via-agp.ko using modprobe as follows (notice that the trailing .ko is omitted): modprobe via-agp
Check the modprobe manpage for more information on loading kernel modules.

To verify that the AGP module is already loaded, run lsmod as root. With the XServer running and the connection established, the usage count of this module must be greater than zero.
If you cannot find a suitable agp module for your motherboard, then you may want to upgrade to the latest version of the Linux kernel, or check your motherboard manufacturer's website for more information.

Didn't read this before. Sorry.

And perhaps there is still some hope, but you never know wink: http://www.rage3d.net/board/showpost.ph … stcount=27

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