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#51 2022-06-07 16:20:20

tiko7454
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Re: Problems with audio output

when I run mpv -ao alsa ... it got stuck at the beginning

AO: [alsa] 48000Hz stereo 2ch float
VO: [gpu] 1920x1080 yuv420p
AV: 00:00:00 / 00:06:03 (0%) A-V:  0.001 Dropped: 3 Cache: 9.8s/1MB

when I run mpv ... it's going on

AO: [pulse] 48000Hz stereo 2ch float
VO: [gpu] 1920x1080 yuv420p
AV: 00:00:07 / 00:06:03 (2%) A-V:  0.000 Cache: 0.3s/86KB

but without any sound. Also I noticed that after plugging in my headphone (wired) I don't see them in helvum.


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#52 2022-06-07 20:40:47

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Re: Problems with audio output

Did you remove pipewire-alsa?

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#53 2022-06-08 18:53:23

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Re: Problems with audio output

no effect after removing


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#54 2022-06-09 05:32:33

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Re: Problems with audio output

What's the output of "aplay -L"  and "ps aux | grep pipe" in this condition?
You could try https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Advanc … cture#Dmix though it should™ be enabled by default.

Finally: does "speaker-test" work? (Is gonna generate some noise)
And if not and your analog card isn't the "default" in "aplay -L", you can try "speaker-test -D <device from aplay -L here>", eg. "speaker-test -D pulse" will probably test the pulseaudio device.

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#55 2022-06-09 07:04:00

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Re: Problems with audio output

$ aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
lavrate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Libav/FFmpeg Library
samplerate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Samplerate Library
speexrate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Speex Resampler
jack
    JACK Audio Connection Kit
oss
    Open Sound System
pipewire
    PipeWire Sound Server
pulse
    PulseAudio Sound Server
speex
    Plugin using Speex DSP (resample, agc, denoise, echo, dereverb)
upmix
    Plugin for channel upmix (4,6,8)
vdownmix
    Plugin for channel downmix (stereo) with a simple spacialization
default
    Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    Front output / input
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC274 Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=2
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 3
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=4
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 4
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=5
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 5
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=6
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 6
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 7
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 8
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=9
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 9
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=10
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 10
    HDMI Audio Output
usbstream:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH
    USB Stream Output
$ ps aux | grep pipe
tiko7454    4476  0.5  0.0  43684 11972 ?        S<sl 10:54   0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire
tiko7454    4477  0.2  0.1 293068 27884 ?        Ssl  10:54   0:00 /usr/bin/pipewire-media-session
tiko7454    4478  1.1  0.0  22216  7920 ?        S<sl 10:54   0:01 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
tiko7454    6131  0.0  0.0   6680  2604 pts/0    S+   10:55   0:00 grep --color=auto --exclude-dir=.bzr --exclude-dir=CVS --exclude-dir=.git --exclude-dir=.hg --exclude-dir=.svn --exclude-dir=.idea --exclude-dir=.tox pipe

asound.conf didn't exist

no sound from speaker-test

I tried speaker-test -D sysdefault, alsa, pulse. No sound


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#56 2022-06-09 08:09:01

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Re: Problems with audio output

on such a speaker-test sysdefault might make some sense but generally

speaker-test -Dhw:0 -c2

if that doesn't give you audio then you have a lower level issue on the kernel/codec level or something physical. Do you have speakers connected even? Are they in the correct jack?

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#57 2022-06-09 10:23:03

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Re: Problems with audio output

That also didn't work
As I mentioned before I have no physical issues with the speakers because they do work on windows. They are built in with my computer.


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#58 2022-06-09 11:10:19

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Re: Problems with audio output

How did it not work? Did you get a resource busy error or did you actually see attempts to play to the speakers that you didn't hear? For the former case make sure pipewire or pulse is completely stopped, for the latter try the following.

Mhm, I don't see anything generally wrong in the alsa-info.sh completely stop pipewire/pulseaudio (

systemctl --user mask  pipewire pipewire-media-session pipewire-pulse --now

unmask to reenable) and try using hdajackretask from alsa-utils on whether you can change some PIN setup to actually enable the speakers. Technically in dmesg there's a line that it detected line out and headphone but no speaker jacks maybe that has a relation here..

Alternative not guaranteed to work based on the HDA model list /etc/modprobe.d/fixSpeaker.conf

options snd-hda-intel model=alc274-dell-aio

Last edited by V1del (2022-06-09 11:11:58)

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#59 2022-06-09 15:41:04

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Re: Problems with audio output

did you actually see attempts to play to the speakers that you didn't hear?

yes

https://files.catbox.moe/8ano00.png
https://files.catbox.moe/qv3dqc.png
what to do here?

I added that option to that file (I created that)

(also say when I should unmask it, because now I masked it)

Last edited by tiko7454 (2022-06-09 15:42:13)


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#60 2022-06-11 10:14:45

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Re: Problems with audio output

tiko7454 wrote:

did you actually see attempts to play to the speakers that you didn't hear?

yes

https://files.catbox.moe/8ano00.png
https://files.catbox.moe/qv3dqc.png
what to do here?

I added that option to that file (I created that)

(also say when I should unmask it, because now I masked it)

Internal speaker, in hdmi try select model auto..
don't uninstall nothing..


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#61 2022-06-11 16:45:40

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Re: Problems with audio output

that didn't help, moreover, now helvum shows nothing. No pins, nothing. Just a grey field of square tiles. (I tryed both, while masked, and while unmasked) So maybe it's because of mask, maybe because ov model auto (I ran that app with sudo because as normal users it couldn't do anything. It asked for systemd AUTHENTICATING, after I write my password I got a message like

Error executing command as another user: Not authorized

so I opened hdajackretask with sudo)

Last edited by tiko7454 (2022-06-11 16:46:21)


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#62 2022-06-11 19:09:55

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Re: Problems with audio output

I've no knowledge about hdajackretask but you're not trying to use the HDMI output, something that doesn't seem to get into geopardo's head.

https://launchpad.net/~namo-amituofo

options snd-hda-intel model=dell-headset-multi

(don't use the string from launchpad, it's some cyrillic-for-latin stuff)

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#63 2022-06-11 19:36:31

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Re: Problems with audio output

ah understand now..

Is a normal issue when you having a fresh ark installation..
https://files.catbox.moe/qv3dqc.png
i can see mic on this chipset.. can be the right way to solve this audio issue..
do you have external physical connection? four or six?


so is internal speaker is related to a monitor speaker connection...
no monitor speaker, this can't working.. u need to connect via gpu, whit hdmi cable in monitor for work his speaker.
or green output on motherboard audio card chipset.

https://files.catbox.moe/8ano00.png

now i'm using gpu card audio chipset... and monitor speaker ...

Last edited by geopardo (2022-06-11 19:48:42)


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#64 2022-06-11 19:49:43

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Re: Problems with audio output

He  has speakers connected, confirmed that the hardware works and is not (so far) interested in using HDMI for audio.
*Your* hardware configuration is utterly irrelevant to the OPs situation.

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#65 2022-06-11 20:08:02

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Re: Problems with audio output

I'm using 4 HDMI displayport and same way for listen audio in ark.. is an example.. he can resolve this issue..


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#66 2022-06-13 12:54:03

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Re: Problems with audio output

the same issue from mpv (this doesn't go on)

AO: [alsa] 48000Hz stereo 2ch float
VO: [gpu] 1920x1080 yuv420p
AV: 00:00:00 / 00:06:03 (0%) A-V:  0.001 Dropped: 3 Cache: 8.6s/1MB

maybe after all this configurations I broke alsa. How to fix this?
(I tried brave, and I get no sound)
Also in alsamixer, it's switched to pulseaudio (it was pipewire)
Also in alsamixer, I have more PDIF-s (I have no idea what it is, but this info can be useful)

Note: I used this

 options snd-hda-intel model=dell-headset-multi 

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#67 2022-06-13 13:40:42

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Re: Problems with audio output

Also in alsamixer, it's switched to pulseaudio (it was pipewire)

pacman -Qs alsa

maybe after all this configurations I broke alsa

We haven't gotten the audio chip to play anything at any moment (iirc not even on other distros, yes?)
There's no reason to believe that you broke alsa (unless you withheld any information).

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#68 2022-06-13 15:22:27

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Re: Problems with audio output

Also in alsamixer, it's switched to pulseaudio (it was pipewire)

just this was weird. And yes, no sound on any live distro out of the box (both debian based and arch based)


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#69 2022-06-13 20:33:44

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Re: Problems with audio output

This is "normal" pipewire-alsa and pulseaudio-alsa respectively provide an ALSA config to redefine the default ALSA mixer device to their respective daemons. If you want to actually check the physical HW controls pass the actual card index with the -c parameter, so

alsamixer -c0

which will access the actual low level card mixers.

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#70 2022-06-20 12:07:01

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Re: Problems with audio output

so any ideas?


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#71 2022-06-20 12:11:34

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Re: Problems with audio output

tiko7454 wrote:

so any ideas?

Don't do that. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … es#Bumping

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#72 2022-06-20 12:13:27

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Re: Problems with audio output

sorry


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#73 2022-06-20 14:39:31

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Re: Problems with audio output

Have you tried to use pavucontrol?

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#74 2022-06-20 16:33:26

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Re: Problems with audio output

If you can't figure it out with model options nor with hdajackretask you'll want to open a kernel bug report, the only other suggestion I have is updating your BIOS/UEFI to check whether HP failed something basic in their firmware.

@damnbug we have established the bug to be at an earlier level than what pavucontrol can manipulate.

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