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#101 2006-12-27 08:28:30

scarecrow
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Error parsing number on Grub as well here with alpha 2.
Alpha 1 was working, but had a few issues.
You may have guessed already, but it's a Jmicron controller on Asus P5B-VM mobo.


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#102 2006-12-27 17:09:39

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

- since initrd and initramfs are history would it be possible to change the package containing grub's menu.lst so it refers to kernel26.img instead of initrd26.img?

Seconded. That's one of the problems that annoyed me when installing from 0.7.2.


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#103 2006-12-28 00:02:49

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

I've done a clean install using the ftp-0.8-20061218-i686.iso and found 1 thing that bothers me :

- i chose the ide-legacy install  (pata driver needs approx 50 seconds to determine that ata2 has no devices attached)

- the kernel26.img was created with ide/hda as expected

- the fallback image was created with the pata driver, so i get a kernel panic when i start the fallback image because it wants sda instead of hda .

As the occasions that i needed to boot with the fallback image have been very rare, it's more of a nuisance than a big problem to me, but it doesn't feel right.


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#104 2006-12-28 19:43:04

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Should I use this version to do a clean install or should I take an older one?

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#105 2006-12-28 20:18:33

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

thedude0 wrote:

Should I use this version to do a clean install or should I take an older one?

this one.


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#106 2006-12-28 23:41:26

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Try removing the "!" in front of "gateway" in the ROUTES line. I guess this should do it.

Best regards.


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#107 2006-12-29 00:21:58

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

tpowa wrote:

@ redge
did you use the autoconfiguration during install?
tpowa

Hi, yes I did. I'll be back home in a couple of days and will then respond to the other questions that you raised. Also, if I can do anything to help out, I'd be happy to assist.

That said, let me say straight up that I don't know what "@ redge" means, except that if it what it means what I think it means, I don't have much use for it (I am neither a machine nor an IP address), and that I am similarly unimpressed when people write sentences with no capital letters and/or no punctuation and/or things like "i c u".

About 90 years ago, there was a guy named e.e. cummings who played with language this way, except that he was a very good writer, as distinct from the people who communicate via chatspeak, who are, in my respectful opinion, destroying language.

Between the tone of superiority that one tends to run into on this site, and fairly frequent disregard for language, I'm not quite sure what to make of Arch Linux. On the other hand, there are clearly a good number of participants who have their feet on the ground and who are capable of writing a complete sentence in English (or, for that matter, in whatever language in which they choose to express themselves).

Anyway, to repeat myself, I am sufficiently interested that I may be prepared to help out.


I realize, of course, that the foregoing may elicit a negative response from people who don't care about language. I do.


Cheers,

Rory

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#108 2006-12-29 04:33:19

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Im getting system freezes for now reaso with this install, dunno if its kernel related or what , but my system freezes at least once a day for no reason, never had this problem with kernel 2.6.18 arch 0.7.2 install. It freezes the screen but i can still move the mouse???? anyone haveing the same probs?


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#109 2006-12-30 04:24:29

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Hi guys,

yesterday i installed 0.8 and everything worked perfect !!
Nvidia, german localization, updating and upgrading... absolutely NO problems !

Ok, the only "problem" that i have is the time until firefox starts, it takes some time but the rest of the system is incredible fast.

I am really impressed how perfect everything works and this is just an alpha-version.... ;-)

Good job and i`m sure that Arch is my one and only distribution !!

Regards from Berlin/Germany
Chris


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#110 2006-12-30 17:28:55

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

I realize that it doesn't help a whole lot because I don't remember the exact error message, but 0.8 would NOT install on my laptop.  Kept having problems. I popped in my 0.7 disk, and everything went perfectly fine with no tweaking necessary. Dunknow what it was, and it's too setup to much now to go back and look.

Like I said, this is a pretty useless post, it contains no info, but maybe someone else will have a problem with a laptop. It was on an Averatec 3150p.

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#111 2006-12-30 23:08:44

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Installed without any problems

UPD: i was using arch64 full iso


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#112 2006-12-31 02:28:36

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Upgrading from a 0.7.2 install had rendered my Dell Latitude C600 laptop unbootable, but a re-install from the new "current" iso worked basically very well.
Just one issue, by no means a showstopper: Being unfamiliar with the arch install sequence, I made two mistakes.  One was to try to mount the source media twice, just as far as the swap.  The other was to go back through the package install menus to add wpa_supplicant, which worked fine.  However, after rebooting, some lines in /etc/fstab were duplicated; swap 4 times, the others (sda1, sda3 etc) 3 times.  After fixing fstab it's been fine.

With thanks,
Phil

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#113 2006-12-31 02:33:14

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

pgarner wrote:

try to mount the source media twice

*target* media.  The hard disk.  Doh.

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#114 2006-12-31 16:25:39

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

worked just fine on :

Dell lattitude d620
BCM4311 wifi card
Dual Core T2500 2.0Ghz
1024mb DDR2 667mhz
80gb S-ATA 7200rpm
Geforce Quadro NVS 110M 256MB
14.1" 1440x900 WSXGA


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#115 2006-12-31 19:00:20

123456789
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Hello people,
first of all congratulations for the continuous evolution of archlinux, its architecture and aproach are simply great!

Now, in my case, i have been using archlinux but without mkinitcpio and the latest kernel installed, because i 've been waiting for the latest iso.

So i made 2-3 installations of the latest alpha iso. The installations took place on MS Virual PC Virual Machines, where the hardware is the following:
GIgabyte motherboard with intel 875 chipset
ATI VGA 128 MB
IDE HDD 40GB Western Digital

More info:

[root@vergina ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20)

More info (contd.)

[root@vergina ~]# hwdetect --show-modules
PATA   : ata_generic 
SCSI   : sd_mod sr_mod 
SATA   : ata_piix 
NET    : ppp_generic slhc tulip 
INPUT  : evdev gameport ns558 pcspkr 
OTHER  : cdrom lp ppdev rtc i2c-piix4 i2c-core parport parport_pc

I noticed the following malfunctions:

1) Much slower performance than before. I don't know if this is HOOKS/mkinitcpio related, because i modified the initial mkinitcpio.conf as follows:i added ata_generic and ata_piix to the MODULES, there was no module before i had added those two. In fact the disk works all the time and i am sure it is not related to memory because i had arch with 256MBytes on the same machine and it was flying, whereas now it woes with 512MB.

2) After 2-3 normal reboots i noticed errors dealing with misconfiguration of the ATA drives. Finally i ended up with kernel panic etc. I booted with rescue CD, mounted the sda1 (root partition) changed from sdx-->hdx, chrooted, changed lilo etc etc, but  in vain. Then i reinstalled from the beginning and changed the mkinitcpio.conf as i said above and everything went OK ( i mean no more crashes during boot).

3) During installation an annoying message about the root password appears. Of course this is just a matter of aesthetics i suppose.

One (off-topic) question: it is mentioned on the archlinux site that mkinitcpio is made from arch developers, there is a document in the wiki about mkinitcpio configuration, where can i find something describing the mechanism and the available HOOKS/MODULES? Sorry for the off-topic, just asking for some link etc.

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#116 2007-01-01 01:42:26

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Installed Arch64 yesterday, really rocks is has all the features you need and it dident lock wink


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#117 2007-01-01 13:21:11

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

grub did not install automagicly.
/dev/sda1 is xfs (mounted on /)
/dev/sda2 is swap
/dev/sda3 is also xfs (mounted on /home)

The installation "froze" but I did do a workaround by going to a another tty, did a chroot, and installed grub by hand (no error)

I really wonder why the arch installation didnt cope with grub and xfs. (this error did also happen on 0.7)

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#118 2007-01-01 20:44:43

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Alpha 0.8 images seem to be great according most of the feedbacks here.
However I've got following issue here, both with standard & x86_64 Base ISOs (2006-12-19) :

1) Booting with standard Install/rescue quickly stop with a hwdetect segfault
9da2022c94_tn.jpg

EIP: [f880e8f2>] ali_init_one+0x242/0x2e0 [pata_ali] SS:ESP 0068:c1a09e20
  /sbin/hwdetect: line 287:    441 Segmentation fault   modprobe $i > dev/null 2>&1

2) Legacy IDE Install/Rescue boots fine : it also shows pata_ali / hwdetect line 287 : 445 killed message but goes on
97af437870_tn.jpg
I've got 2 SATA HDDs on a non-Intel ASRock 939 Dual SataII mobo (no IDE HDDs, only CD & DVD burners on hdc & hdd).
I could make partition on the 2 SATA HDDs with cfdisk (as I'm planning a major shift to RAID1 / LVM), then was stopped with what seem to be udev issue.
- created 3 Linux RAID partitions on both HDDs with cfdisk
- checked raid1 module was launched - ok
- created 1st Raid array with mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3
but couldn't go further as there was no md1, etc in /dev. Wanted to launch 'makdevs' but this is not on the Base ISOs.

Hope this might be of interest (and also that someone can give me some hints to install arch :cry: )

Notes :
Both images were md5 checked & fine
Previous boot issue with kernel-2.6.19-ARCH screenshot might be of interest b2beec70a6_tn.png

...
BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000020
printing eip:
f882b8f2
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000 [#1]
PREEMPT SMP
Modules linked in: pata_ali ata_generic libata ohci_hcd usbcore BusLogic
...

$ lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1695 K8 Northbridge [PCI Express and HyperTransport]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port
00:02.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port
00:04.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1689 K8 Northbridge [Super K8 Single Chip]
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation AGP8X Controller
00:06.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge
00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1563 HyperTransport South Bridge (rev 70)
00:07.1 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20)
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: ALi Corporation ULi 1689,1573 integrated ethernet. (rev 40)
00:12.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c7)
00:12.1 Mass storage controller: ALi Corporation ULi 5289 SATA (rev 10)
00:13.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1)
04:05.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
04:05.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)


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#119 2007-01-02 00:43:05

Echo
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Installed fine without any issues:

Pentium II 350 mhz
128 mb RAM PC 100
Quantum ATA hard drive

Edit: Using base iso.

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#120 2007-01-02 03:58:53

redge
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

tpowa wrote:

please make a bug entry we can assign to someone with all details, your config files attached, rc.conf and mkinitcpio.conf is at least needed.
also did you use the autoconfiguration during install?
tpowa

Hi. I've now got a moment to respond in more detail.

I've installed .8 and .7.2.2 on this machine (Thinkpad A21m, Pentium III 850MHz processor, about five years old). The former works fine with an ide-legacy install on both default and fallback, provided that "ide" is added manually to Hooks. As I have pointed out, failing a manual edit, it does not work well at all. The latter (.7.2.2), having tried all of the various initial startup options (which as you know do not include "ide-legacy"), will work only on fallback.

In both cases, Arch was installed as the only operating system (hard drive wiped clean) and I made a point of selecting defaults. If you think that the details would help, despite having gone with defaults throughout, I'd be happy to supply them. Let me add, from a purely troubleshooting and objective point of view, that I have now managed to install 15 other linux distributions on this computer, running pretty much the gamut of what is out there, without difficulty. This suggests to me that the computer is not the problem.

Despite these issues, I remain interested in Arch. While I am not exactly entranced by the installer or the documentation (the latter needing serious work, unless the idea is, as some people seem to suggest, that Arch should for some reason be a black box accompanied by documentation that is both chaotic and obtuse), I found that, once installed, I liked the bias towards customization and the way that the operating system performs.

Cheers,

Rory

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#121 2007-01-02 09:27:32

123456789
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Hello,
every time i try to execute pacman i notice particular delay.
I have tried to use the closest possible mirror (gigabit internet connection) but it doesn't get better.

Moreover, every time i run pacman i run into a corrupt filesystem:

See attached photos:

http://aetos.it.teithe.gr/~istr/beta/arch-1.JPG
http://aetos.it.teithe.gr/~istr/beta/arch-2.JPG
http://aetos.it.teithe.gr/~istr/beta/arch-3.JPG

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#122 2007-01-02 10:21:08

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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

Oh, yes ! we do see attached photos :-(

EDIT : thank you 123456789


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#123 2007-01-02 11:09:53

123456789
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

kozaki wrote:

Oh, yes ! we do see attached photos :-(

Oops! Did i do something wrong?
I'll try to resize images if that's what you mean, sorry :oops:

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#124 2007-01-02 11:14:29

scarney
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

123456789 wrote:
kozaki wrote:

Oh, yes ! we do see attached photos :-(

Oops! Did i do something wrong?
I'll try to resize images if that's what you mean, sorry :oops:

no worries man!. next time just use imageshack or something, then u can just post a link to your pics. wink

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#125 2007-01-02 11:19:48

123456789
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Re: 0.8 alpha/beta and final Voodoo installation feedback

scarney wrote:
123456789 wrote:
kozaki wrote:

Oh, yes ! we do see attached photos :-(

Oops! Did i do something wrong?
I'll try to resize images if that's what you mean, sorry :oops:

no worries man!. next time just use imageshack or something, then u can just post a link to your pics. wink

OK, i removed the IMG tags and reduced size to 75%!

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