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#76 2022-12-11 01:29:57

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Re: Computer wont boot

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No error codes here, can’t print it out, a monitor video is my only option…

Just because you think X is your only option doesn't mean X is worth doing. Is that readable on your system? Because it isn't on mine. I can't pause it, I can't magnify it and I might just as well have not downloaded all 23M of it.


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#77 2022-12-11 01:51:13

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Re: Computer wont boot

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Kxed wrote:

No error codes here, can’t print it out, a monitor video is my only option…

Just because you think X is your only option doesn't mean X is worth doing. Is that readable on your system? Because it isn't on mine. I can't pause it, I can't magnify it and I might just as well have not downloaded all 23M of it.

Yes, it is readable on my system. You should definitely be able to pause it too…

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#78 2022-12-13 15:36:37

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Re: Computer wont boot

Here’s a timeline of my problems:
It was just a normal day on my computer until I rebooted my computer. Then when it came back on, it didn’t want to go to the login page. The words were in a rolling layout (not moving, rolling) on the screen. I had a feeling that I may need to expand my root at that moment. So I went to parted, and shrunk the end of my home partition by one gigabyte, thinking it would automatically move the start of the home partition. I could not be more wrong. When I tried to move the root, it said that it was overlapping and couldn't do it. I then added the 1GB back by saying the end should be 1000GB. Issue is, it wasn’t exact. When I tried to boot into the system, it failed to mount home, and failed to use local file systems. (That part’s a bit foggy, i forgot if that was exactly what happened or not) After it showed those errors, it kicked me into emergency mode. After someone said to comment the home entry in fstab, I did it and it actually worked! Unfortunately, the first problem came back again as the 3rd problem and that’s where we are at this time!

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#79 2022-12-13 16:03:59

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Re: Computer wont boot

Do you have any reason - other than a feeling - for thinking lack of space on root is the problem?


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#80 2022-12-13 16:14:07

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The words were in a rolling layout (not moving, rolling)

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Getty#Staircase_effect - harmless and rather leave that alone.

Your problem is "didn’t want to go to the login page" what could be for a pleathora of reasons, linked to "my GPU/driver config" and "what actually is my login page"

the first problem came back again as the 3rd problem and that’s where we are at this time

No, we're at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p2073102

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#81 2022-12-13 22:25:28

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Re: Computer wont boot

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If both of those methods fail boot using the live media then chroot in.
After you have reached the console post the journal for a boot with the issue.

I hate to ask this, but how do I chroot in?

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#82 2022-12-13 22:41:08

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Just the same way you did when installing archlinux.

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#83 2022-12-14 00:03:45

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Re: Computer wont boot

seth wrote:

Just the same way you did when installing archlinux.

...
I used archinstall…

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#84 2022-12-14 02:13:19

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Re: Computer wont boot

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I used archinstall…

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide. See sections 1.11 and 3.2 which take you through mounting your partitions and arch-chrooting. If you need the network, make sure you configure it before entering the chroot.


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#85 2022-12-15 06:34:50

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Re: Computer wont boot

Also, how do i get past the console after chrooting?
Edit: Oh. Nevermind. I read the thing wrong.

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#86 2022-12-15 08:10:57

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What do you mean "past the console"
You're supposed to post the system journal, not to start a GUI session.

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#87 2022-12-15 22:51:02

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Re: Computer wont boot

I tried, but it says no entries: https://0x0.st/oaxK.txt

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#88 2022-12-15 23:36:46

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Re: Computer wont boot

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I tried, but it says no entries: https://0x0.st/oaxK.txt

Your computer doesn't fart without its being recorded in the journal. What exactly did you do to (a) chroot and (b) read the journal?


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#89 2022-12-16 00:47:50

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Re: Computer wont boot

cfr wrote:
Kxed wrote:

I tried, but it says no entries: https://0x0.st/oaxK.txt

Your computer doesn't fart without its being recorded in the journal. What exactly did you do to (a) chroot and (b) read the journal?

I never did anything to chroot…

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#90 2022-12-16 01:49:13

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If you didn't do anything to chroot, then why would you expect to get anything useful?

You need to set up the chroot and arch-chroot into it before reading the journal. Isn't that what you asked how to do a few posts back?


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#91 2022-12-16 16:42:05

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Re: Computer wont boot

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If you didn't do anything to chroot, then why would you expect to get anything useful?

You need to set up the chroot and arch-chroot into it before reading the journal. Isn't that what you asked how to do a few posts back?

Not quite, and also, i still dont know how i set up chroot before arch-chrooting into it…

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#92 2022-12-16 16:49:06

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Re: Computer wont boot

Kxed wrote:

I hate to ask this, but how do I chroot in?

cfr wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide. See sections 1.11 and 3.2 which take you through mounting your partitions and arch-chrooting. If you need the network, make sure you configure it before entering the chroot.

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#93 2022-12-16 20:04:45

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Re: Computer wont boot

Read through the things that they were pointing me to, looks like it doesn’t say anything about setting up chroot…

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#94 2022-12-16 21:11:18

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"set up chroot" hardly means more to have all relevant partitions mounted into place…
Are we trygin to get to any relevant data or would you maybe be much better off installing ubuntu?

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#95 2022-12-17 01:51:25

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Re: Computer wont boot

Kxed wrote:

Read through the things that they were pointing me to, looks like it doesn’t say anything about setting up chroot…

If you prefer the long version, you can use the 'changing root' link there, which takes you to Chroot.


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#96 2023-01-13 14:05:17

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Re: Computer wont boot

I gave up too early. “mount -t /proc proc/ didn’t work at first, but after checking in the aftermath, using /proc/ works too.
im sad now

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#97 2023-01-13 14:18:22

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Take note that “mount -t /proc/“ worked, but “mount -t proc /proc proc/“ or “mount -t proc /proc/“ didn’t.
I could have saved my Terraria data too, but I didn’t know where that was at the time. I’m not quite content, but i’m one step closer to accepting it.

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#98 2023-01-13 14:31:04

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Sorry, but that's complete nonsense.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot#Using_chroot

"mount -t proc /proc proc/"
"mount -t /proc/" is an illegal statement, "/proc/" isn't a valid type and you're not providing a target.
And to setup a chroot you need to mount proc into the relative "proc/" of the target root FS.

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#99 2023-01-14 03:42:17

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Re: Computer wont boot

There’s nothing in fstab anymore. Something doesn’t feel right…

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#100 2023-01-14 04:20:05

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Re: Computer wont boot

Kxed wrote:

There’s nothing in fstab anymore. Something doesn’t feel right…

Are you sure you're not looking at the file on the live media? fstab won't just have emptied of its own accord. However, you can always regenerate it following the instructions in the Installation Guide.


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