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#26 2023-01-10 08:31:03

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Try updating to 6.1.4 there have been a bunch of amdgpu fixes, other than that test e.g. the LTS kernel (... though unsure if that's new enough for the GPU)

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#27 2023-01-12 13:44:09

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
Hok, I installed as per suggestion linux 6.1.4 All went well then today Ive had another crash.
I can upload the same to the website IF necessary(unsure if Anyone is actually viewing them from there)

I am concerned that the card although reported brand new is faulty in some way. I don't know
enough about AMD graphics, This whole machine is and now, I went with this card because it was available.
Half of me wishes I had decided on a NVIDIA card.
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#28 2023-01-13 11:02:29

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

If you had got a Nvidia videocard you'd probably wish you'd have gone with amd (Nivida + wayland has improved but still has lots of issues).

I looked at the logs and noted you are using many kernel parameters in the boot command line.

intel_pstate=no_hwp rootfstype=btrfs amdgpu.aspm=0 amdgpu.runpm=0 amdgpu.bapm=0 pcie_aspm=off

are you sure you need all of them ?
Are you using latest firmware for your motherboard ?

please post the log from the crash and also a fresh one from a normal boot.

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2023-01-13 11:03:08)

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#29 2023-01-13 11:48:48

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
Originally I was stuck using wayland however since post-3/4ish we established a way of disregarding Wayland, and this is now a straightforward normal x11 affair.

Iam using the arch-installer to install it.  I have not consciously used MANY Kernel parameters if any.

No Iam not convinced that I need them all, Yes I need that one at least 

rootfstype=btrfs

Firmware for Motherboard no Iam not conscious of using firmware for my 

B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2

Ok I have published on my site the logs from the previous crash(They are too big for pastebin) they can be downloaded from.

https://stevedoeslinux.com/10-12-23-logs

Normal boot logs are

https://pastebin.com/Xzc2PYhb

Thanks for trying to help.

Post edited for clarity
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#30 2023-01-14 13:58:31

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

- The B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 mobo has several HW revisions, but the only one I can find with a F16c firmware is revision 1.0 .
All revisions do list a later firmware though, F16d , see https://www.aorus.com/motherboards/B550 … 10/Support

- apart from rootfstype=btrfs all the parameters are meant for solving some issue, but it's very rare to need more than one or 2 of them.
They definitely need to be investigated.

- the amdgpu kernel modules appear to be loaded rather late in the boot process .

- presence of snap

I'd like you to  :
update the firmware to F16d
configure early KMS as described at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … _KMS_start
create a bootloader entry to test booting without intel_hwp , the amdgpu. ones and pcie-aspm .


Software using snap or flatpak can seriously screw up systems and should be used only as a last resort.
Which applications do you need snap for ?

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2023-01-14 13:59:34)

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#31 2023-01-14 15:37:38

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

- The B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 mobo has several HW revisions, but the only one I can find with a F16c firmware is revision 1.0 .
All revisions do list a later firmware though, F16d , see https://www.aorus.com/motherboards/B550 … 10/Support

I'd like you to  :
update the firmware to F16d
configure early KMS as described at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … _KMS_start
create a bootloader entry to test booting without intel_hwp , the amdgpu. ones and pcie-aspm .


Software using snap or flatpak can seriously screw up systems and should be used only as a last resort.
Which applications do you need snap for ?

Hi LoneWolf
I thank you for your help.

Snap's
Ile start with the last item first, I use snap primarily for password management (NordPass),
I also use it for (WhatsApp). whats app is very occasionally used, however, Nordpass is used heavily and is loaded at startup.

Firmware F16d
I have had a look around the driver site url you quoted, and I am unsure how to proceed. All the software appears to be windows
based. when I do 'yay -Ss B550' I do find something to control the RGB that's all. Can you point be to more definite information on
how to apply this fireware/software? Thanks for the digging. AH with the help of a friend  Ive updated bios no need for more info.

Bootloader
I will study the information in the URL and see about a bootup option, I will reply further here once I have had a look.
All the parameters are the result of trying to install Graphic drivers of one shape or another.

Last edited by Data007 (2023-01-14 16:03:05)

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#32 2023-01-14 17:12:08

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

configure early KMS as described at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … _KMS_start
create a bootloader entry to test booting without intel_hwp , the amdgpu. ones and pcie-aspm .

I have studied this and I am uncertain how to go about it, more info is required. I have searched  YouTube for help
as well as studying the URL you sent.

Edit: Disregard done: Creating a systems bootloader is there a video or more info to follow? I would have used grub-customizer or similar
but its systemd. To a seasoned pro like yourself probably easy to do. :edit

I am away to look at the bios settings having updated, I am using the defaults at the moment.

PS. Most of what you have requested has been done(just early KMS to work on), additional fresh logs Edit:no crashes ether:edit >>

https://pastebin.com/kbKL6Knt

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#33 2023-01-15 09:36:45

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
I have now done all (I believe) that has been asked by Lone_Wolf, even the KMS,
However, I have after having the machine on since approx 04:20 -> 09:15 With reboots, just had another crash.
This time round ctl+alt+del did bring up the shutdown menu in amongst it all, I was able to click shutdown.

New logs have been posted on my website for download and examination>>

https://stevedoeslinux.com/15-1-23-logs-plus-grace-shutdown

Can anyone solve this?
Many thanks to all

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#34 2023-01-15 11:34:17

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

yep, KMS is now used.
The log without additional parameters looks better then earlier ones.

Jan 15 08:17:19 archlinux kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios

Try to find how to enable this in bios. One of the options that is related is SVM (secure virtual machines)  .

The nordpass.desktop / snap provided stuff clearly doesn't work well with archlinux OR something is wrong in the basic setup.

Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: /usr/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: amdgpu: unknown (family_id, chip_external_rev): (143, 50)
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: libGL error: failed to create dri screen
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: /usr/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: amdgpu: unknown (family_id, chip_external_rev): (143, 50)
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: libGL error: failed to create dri screen
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1194]: [1194:0115/081730.957900:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(186)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: /usr/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: amdgpu: unknown (family_id, chip_external_rev): (143, 50)
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: libGL error: failed to create dri screen
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: /usr/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: amdgpu: unknown (family_id, chip_external_rev): (143, 50)
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: libGL error: failed to create dri screen
Jan 15 08:17:30 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
Jan 15 08:17:31 archlinux nordpass.desktop[1247]: [1247:0115/081731.009560:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(186)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization

You also may have vaapi issues.


The firmware & kernel updates appear to have improved things a lot .
I see no messages that indicate aspm is having issues, so amdgpu.aspm & pice_aspm are no longer needed.

the only intel parts in your machine seem to be SSDs and wifi/bluetooth  chipset.  intel_pstate should have no effect at all on this system.

No idea yet about amdgpu.runpm and amdgpu.bapm .

Please post

$ pacman -Qkk libdrm
$ vainfo
$ glxinfo -B   #comes-with-mesa_utils

Correcting the lack of kvm support (those techniques are used for many things not related to virtual machines on amd systems ) feels like the most important next step .

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#35 2023-01-15 12:59:00

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:
Jan 15 08:17:19 archlinux kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios

Try to find how to enable this in bios. One of the options that is related is SVM (secure virtual machines)  .

You also may have vaapi issues.

SVM now enabled.

" vaapi issues."
Not sure the meaning of 'vaapi'

"I see no messages that indicate aspm is having issues, so amdgpu.aspm & amdgpu.aspm are no longer needed."
pacman  -R amdgpu.aspm   =Unfound-or equivalent??
pacman -R amdgpu.aspm    =Unfound-or equivalent??

"No idea yet about amdgpu.runpm and amdgpu.bapm ."
ok


Please post
$ pacman -Qkk libdrm

libdrm: 92 total files, 0 altered files

$ vainfo
Command not found, neither could I locate it to install


$ glxinfo -B   #comes-with-mesa_utils

name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
    Vendor: AMD (0x1002)
    Device: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22, LLVM 14.0.6, DRM 3.49, 6.1.6-arch1-1) (0x73df)
    Version: 22.3.3
    Accelerated: yes
    Video memory: 12288MB
    Unified memory: no
    Preferred profile: core (0x1)
    Max core profile version: 4.6
    Max compat profile version: 4.6
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.2
Memory info (GL_ATI_meminfo):
    VBO free memory - total: 11745 MB, largest block: 11745 MB
    VBO free aux. memory - total: 32043 MB, largest block: 32043 MB
    Texture free memory - total: 11745 MB, largest block: 11745 MB
    Texture free aux. memory - total: 32043 MB, largest block: 32043 MB
    Renderbuffer free memory - total: 11745 MB, largest block: 11745 MB
    Renderbuffer free aux. memory - total: 32043 MB, largest block: 32043 MB
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 12288 MB
    Total available memory: 44392 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 11745 MB
OpenGL vendor string: AMD
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22, LLVM 14.0.6, DRM 3.49, 6.1.6-arch1-1)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.3.3
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 22.3.3
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: compatibility profile

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 22.3.3
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

Many thanks again

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#36 2023-01-15 14:01:38

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
Not lasted as long this time, Just had a freeze where it logged me out, instead of a full-blown crash.

https://pastebin.com/prry2WRD

HIH
Thanks for the time looking.

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#37 2023-01-16 11:18:38

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

" vaapi issues."
Not sure the meaning of 'vaapi'

It's usually written  as VA-API and stands for Video Acceleration API . 
one of your applications, streamdeck, complains about it not working .


"I see no messages that indicate aspm is having issues, so amdgpu.aspm & amdgpu.aspm are no longer needed."
pacman  -R amdgpu.aspm   =Unfound-or equivalent??
pacman -R amdgpu.aspm    =Unfound-or equivalent??

"No idea yet about amdgpu.runpm and amdgpu.bapm ."
ok

all 4 of those terms are kernel parameters that are/were present on your bootcommand line.

I'm torn on how to continue .

The issues look more software related and due to misconfiguration or clashing methods to install/maintain applications.
Your responses suggest you have very little xp with a do it yourself distro like archlinux, but do indicate you are willing and capable of learning.

I do think part of the problem is that you started using arch-install instead of the installation guide.


What is streamdeck and how did you install it ?
Apart from nordpass and whatsapp-for-linux (installed through snap) is there other software present that was not installed with pacman ?

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2023-01-16 11:19:21)

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#38 2023-01-16 12:10:33

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

" vaapi issues."
Not sure the meaning of 'vaapi'
It's usually written  as VA-API and stands for Video Acceleration API . 
one of your applications, streamdeck, complains about it not working .

all 4 of those terms are kernel parameters that are/were present on your bootcommand line.

I'm torn on how to continue .

The issues look more software related and due to misconfiguration or clashing methods to install/maintain applications.
Your responses suggest you have very little xp with a do it yourself distro like archlinux, but do indicate you are willing and capable of learning.

I do think part of the problem is that you started using arch-install instead of the installation guide.


What is streamdeck and how did you install it ?
Apart from nordpass and whatsapp-for-linux (installed through snap) is there other software present that was not installed with pacman ?

Elgato Streamdeck hows it installed via python pip

https://github.com/timothycrosley/streamdeck-ui#readme

Its primararly a windblows programed device. I use it via the above Linux program.
I have the streamdeck XL basically push buttons to launch programs/ Insert text in discord, run scripts.

I come from a windblows background, I started of on Debian moved to KDEneon then to Arcolinux(where I answer questions
I know the answer to and do research and testing for) In between then and Arch I have been on Endevour OS to.

You mention my inexperience yes to a certain degree. But for instance, if you had said update bios then I would have known
exactly what to do instead of talking about firmware, yes the same thing but I know how to update bios.

Arch Install, I did it that way rather than having to type each command at prompt yes. Capable of learning yes, Iam used to GUI applications
rather than a list of commands to follow I did cut my teeth on Dos 5 -/- winblows 3. Videos or pictures are better sometimes than words.

Other software, no not really 'DaVinci Resolve', steam games, snap nordpass... ..
Edit: Thinking about it there is browser plugins to namely "nordpass" and "Workana"
Edit2: powerlevel10k  to configure the prompt it has its own Github as well.

Please continue to help its either that or return the device(graphics card).

Last edited by Data007 (2023-01-17 05:18:12)

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#39 2023-01-16 13:09:55

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
I have been reading the forum, not a bad thing. Reading about "random reboots"

D.Alt posted. "You'd want an in-depth reading at: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ryzen#Troubleshooting"
in that thread. Now I have a "CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (12) @ 3.700GHz " I am wondering also if I should
be investigating this as well 

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ryzen#Troubleshooting

Up until now the processor has been fine though, even running games and being stable. Just wondering
if the new to me card could be causing some weird power drain.

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#40 2023-01-17 12:12:37

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi Loan_Wolf
New logs available for download from the website, I was not able to logot succsefuly
after/during the crash this time.

https://stevedoeslinux.com/new-logs-17-1-23

Hope you can help.
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#41 2023-01-17 15:24:17

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

For clarity :
I wasn't contemplating giving up but considering whether to advise a new install from scratch or continue with the existing one.
I've looked deeper and now think this install can be stabilised.


I checked the ryzen troubleshooting page and I don't think it's applicable to your system atm.
4.1 mentions MCE errrors being present and you have none. 4.3 was with early amd zen generations and hasn't been seen on later newer models at all.

4.4 is supposed to be fixed with Agesa 1.2.0.2 , you use 1.2.0.7 .

I have looked back at the logs after the firmware was updated and found there are atleast 2 separate problems.

https://pastebin.com/kbKL6Knt Logs -11423 Good most alterations.txt

Jan 14 17:50:53 archlinux streamdeck[945]: qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 377, resource id: 4194310, major code: 10 (UnmapWindow), minor code: 0
Jan 14 17:50:53 archlinux streamdeck[945]: qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 384, resource id: 4194310, major code: 4 (DestroyWindow), minor code: 0
Jan 14 17:50:53 archlinux kded5[768]: Service  ":1.29" unregistered
Jan 14 17:50:53 archlinux kwin_x11[769]: kwin_core: XCB error: 152 (BadDamage), sequence: 16352, resource id: 16777847, major code: 143 (DAMAGE), minor code: 3 (Subtract)

https://stevedoeslinux.com/15-1-23-logs … e-shutdown NCrashGrasfullShut.txt
" just had another crash. This time round ctl+alt+del did bring up the shutdown menu in amongst it all, I was able to click shutdown. "

Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]: Length: 36 [text/plain]
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]: Saving to: ‘/dev/fd/4’
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:      0K
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:    
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8709]: Failed to get crash dump id.
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:  
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8709]: Report Id:
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:  
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8709]: d898fbdd-25d6-47
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:  
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux systemd[1]: Stopped User Login Management.
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-logind comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8711]:   
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: --2023-01-15 09:07:49--  https://sentry.io/api/146342/minidump/?sentry_key=384ce4413de74fe0be270abe03b2b35a
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux audit: BPF prog-id=0 op=UNLOAD
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: Loaded CA certificate '/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt'
Jan 15 09:07:49 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: Resolving sentry.io (sentry.io)... 35.188.42.15
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: Connecting to sentry.io (sentry.io)|35.188.42.15|:443... connected.
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: Length: 36 [text/plain]
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]: Saving to: ‘/dev/fd/4’
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:      0K
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:       
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8872]: Failed to get crash dump id.
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:   
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:  
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8872]: Report Id:
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:  
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8872]: 808bd385-090b-4d
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:  
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux audit[1458]: ANOM_ABEND auid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=3 pid=1458 comm="Chrome_IOThread" exe="/opt/discord/Discord" sig=4 res=1
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux systemd-coredump[8875]: Failed to connect to coredump service: Connection refused
Jan 15 09:07:50 archlinux streamdeck[8873]:

https://pastebin.com/prry2WRD CrashToLogin.txt
"Not lasted as long this time, Just had a freeze where it logged me out, instead of a full-blown crash."

Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]: Length: 36 [text/plain]
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]: Saving to: ‘/dev/fd/4’
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]:      0K
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]:           
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5000]: Failed to get crash dump id.
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]:   
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]:   
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5000]: Report Id:
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]: 100%
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5000]: 2e1e1972-8db7-45
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5001]:   114M=0s
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: --2023-01-15 12:32:03--  https://sentry.io/api/146342/minidump/?sentry_key=384ce4413de74fe0be270abe03b2b35a
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux audit: BPF prog-id=0 op=UNLOAD
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: Loaded CA certificate '/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt'
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: Resolving sentry.io (sentry.io)... 35.188.42.15
Jan 15 12:32:03 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: Connecting to sentry.io (sentry.io)|35.188.42.15|:443... connected.
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: Length: 36 [text/plain]
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]: Saving to: ‘/dev/fd/4’
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:      0K
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:       
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5139]: Failed to get crash dump id.
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:  
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:   
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5139]: Report Id:
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:  
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux streamdeck[5139]: d6e902de-bb84-44
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux audit[1440]: ANOM_ABEND auid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=3 pid=1440 comm="Chrome_IOThread" exe="/opt/discord/Discord" sig=4 res=1
Jan 15 12:32:04 archlinux systemd-coredump[5143]: Failed to connect to coredump service: Connection refused
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: State 'stop-sigterm' timed out. Killing.
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: Killing process 4983 (Discord) with signal SIGKILL.
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: Killing process 4986 (ThreadPoolServi) with signal SIGKILL.
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: Killing process 4987 (n/a) with signal SIGKILL.
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: Killing process 4989 (n/a) with signal SIGKILL.
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux streamdeck[5140]:       
Jan 15 12:32:07 archlinux systemd[678]: app-Streamdeck@autostart.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.

https://stevedoeslinux.com/new-logs-17-1-23 Logsnew6.txt

Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: [gfxhub] page fault (src_id:0 ring:24 vmid:7 pasid:32774, for process kwin_x11 pid 769 thread kwin_x11:cs0 pid 803)
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:   in page starting at address 0x000080018aa11000 from client 0x1b (UTCL2)
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: GCVM_L2_PROTECTION_FAULT_STATUS:0x00701031
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          Faulty UTCL2 client ID: TCP (0x8)
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          MORE_FAULTS: 0x1
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          WALKER_ERROR: 0x0
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          PERMISSION_FAULTS: 0x3
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          MAPPING_ERROR: 0x0
Jan 17 11:57:41 archlinux kernel: amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu:          RW: 0x0

The upper crashes are all related to the pip-installed streamdeck-ui .
Can you work without the streamdeck for a while ?
If not, there are 2 alternatives in aur .
One is streamdeck-ui which uses the same source as the python app, the other is called streamdeck from another author and uses a different library .

The last crash is kernel related.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2050 states this was solved in 5.19.x , but https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=282273 has a post from bitterhalt who had a similar errror with 6.1 kernel

linux-lts is currently at 5.15 (likely to old), and the next lts kernel hasn't been announced yet.
Do you have linux 6.0.x in /var/cache/pacman/pkg ?

last logs shows kvm is now enabled so that's taken care of.

You should also configure hardware video acceleration . install libva-utils and libva-mesa-driver , then run vainfo to verify it works .

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#42 2023-01-17 16:10:38

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

For clarity :
I wasn't contemplating giving up but considering whether to advise a new install from scratch or continue with the existing one.
I've looked deeper and now think this install can be stabilised.

Logs cut out

The upper crashes are all related to the pip-installed streamdeck-ui .
Can you work without the streamdeck for a while ?
If not, there are 2 alternatives in aur .
One is streamdeck-ui which uses the same source as the python app, the other is called streamdeck from another author and uses a different library .

The streamdeck I haven't a choice Id like to use it, it has become part of muscle memory and sits on my desk begging to be used.
I have run the streamdeck-ui from the aur as you suggested, one would assume that one would have to undo the pip install not
exactly sure how yet but I will try and work it out. The program is still functioning as of now.

Edit: pip uninstall.......... now running of aur package.


Lone_Wolf wrote:

The last crash is kernel related.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2050 states this was solved in 5.19.x , but https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=282273 has a post from bitterhalt who had a similar errror with 6.1 kernel

linux-lts is currently at 5.15 (likely to old), and the next lts kernel hasn't been announced yet.
Do you have linux 6.0.x in /var/cache/pacman/pkg ?

   steve@archlinux   /var/c/pacman/pkg  ls linux*                                                  2 ✘ 
linux-6.1.1.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst      linux-6.1.5.arch2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
linux-6.1.1.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig  linux-6.1.6.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
linux-6.1.2.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst      linux-6.1.6.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
linux-6.1.2.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig  linux-api-headers-5.18.15-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
linux-6.1.3.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst      linux-api-headers-5.18.15-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
linux-6.1.3.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig  linux-firmware-20221214.f3c283e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
linux-6.1.4.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst      linux-firmware-20221214.f3c283e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
linux-6.1.4.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig  linux-firmware-whence-20221214.f3c283e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
linux-6.1.5.arch2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst      linux-firmware-whence-20221214.f3c283e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
Lone_Wolf wrote:
You should also configure hardware video acceleration .

I have installed the packages and attach vainfo below but how to enable/configure HVA above.

Trying display: wayland
Trying display: x11
vainfo: VA-API version: 1.17 (libva 2.17.1)
vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 22.3.3 for AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22, LLVM 14.0.6, DRM 3.49, 6.1.6-arch1-1)
vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
      VAProfileMPEG2Simple            :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileMPEG2Main              :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVC1Simple              :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVC1Main                :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVC1Advanced            :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline:	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline:	VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileH264Main               :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264Main               :	VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileH264High               :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileH264High               :	VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileHEVCMain               :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileHEVCMain               :	VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileHEVCMain10             :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileHEVCMain10             :	VAEntrypointEncSlice
      VAProfileJPEGBaseline           :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVP9Profile0            :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileVP9Profile2            :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileAV1Profile0            :	VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileNone                   :	VAEntrypointVideoProc

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Glad you figured out how to remove the pip-installed version.

VA-API tends do a good job of autoconfiguring itself though not for everyone. The vainfo output matches what I expected and shows the autoconfig worked as intended.

The Arch Linux Archive has linux 6.0.12 as the last used kernel before we switched to 6.1 .

Do you have linux-headers installed ?

if not
add linux to the ignorelist in pacman.conf
use pacman -U to download & install linux 6.0.12 (see 3.1 of the above linked wikipage for an example)
reboot , test

If yes,
add both linux & linux-headers to the ignorelist
use pacman -U to download&install both together
reboot and test

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#44 2023-01-17 18:10:54

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Glad you figured out how to remove the pip-installed version.


Do you have linux-headers installed ?

if not
add linux to the ignorelist in pacman.conf
use pacman -U to download & install linux 6.0.12 (see 3.1 of the above linked wikipage for an example)
reboot , test

If yes,
add both linux & linux-headers to the ignorelist
use pacman -U to download&install both together
reboot and test

Not the way suggested however I now have 6.0.12-arch1-1 via downgrade pkg and added to ignore.
Edit: Headers installed Not sure about the headers, I just 

sudo downgrade Linux

picked the correct
version and added to ignore as part of the process.

Time will tell.

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#45 2023-01-20 13:38:50

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi Loan_Wolf
It was going so swimmingly I nearly changed to 'solved' then just now the machine halted
and logged me out while I was using it, another crash.

https://pastebin.com/JBdgHhxv

Will it never end I really thought it was fixed until now.
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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Lone_Wolf wrote:

If yes,
add both linux & linux-headers to the ignorelist
use pacman -U to download&install both together
reboot and test

One thing that is bugging me should both Linux and headers have the same number?

I noticed when I went to upgrade-/-check for updates that a newer set of headers coming in,
so I stopped it downgraded, and added to ignore list.(this being the same number as was installed)

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#47 2023-01-20 17:04:13

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

This time it crashed for a very different reason :

an 20 12:54:36 archlinux kernel: r8169 0000:04:00.0 eno1: Link is Down
Jan 20 12:54:36 archlinux systemd-networkd[425]: eno1: Lost carrier
Jan 20 12:54:36 archlinux dbus-daemon[560]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.1' (uid=980 pid=425 comm="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd")
Jan 20 12:54:36 archlinux systemd-networkd[425]: eno1: DHCP lease lost
Jan 20 12:54:36 archlinux systemd-networkd[425]: eno1: DHCPv6 lease lost
Jan 20 12:54:36 archlinux systemd-timesyncd[556]: No network connectivity, watching for changes.


an 20 12:56:37 archlinux systemd-networkd[425]: eno1: Gained carrier
Jan 20 12:56:37 archlinux kernel: r8169 0000:04:00.0 eno1: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx
Jan 20 12:56:37 archlinux systemd-timesyncd[556]: Network configuration changed, trying to establish connection.

Looks like your network connection had a temporary failure.
Further in the log there are error messages from Streamdeck, but it doesn't seem to have crashed.

Nordpass on the other hand crashed hard and was not able to recover.

I think you should remove or disable the nordpass flatpak version and try with https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nordpass-bin .

(I did notice the comment about not starting at boot, but the pacakge was updated 10+ times after that so that comment is likely to be invalid now)

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2023-01-20 17:05:15)

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#48 2023-01-20 18:25:53

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi
Sorry, this has happened again, this time logs are available from the website download from post.

https://stevedoeslinux.com/new-logs-availble

This is twice in one day.

EDIT:>Previously,
I have removed nordpass and done sudo pacman -S nordpass-bin

I also maid linux and linux-headers the same number.

Thanks for looking.
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#49 2023-01-21 03:20:26

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

Hi Lone_wolf

Its not liking something, I note, that the aplet for network was missing in the tray.
This was drawn from your post by you that the network crashed hard idea-ish

I have gone and installed 

kde-network-meta 22.12-1

I can now find network manager in kicker menu, but its unpopulated, and not in the tray.

Please remember I have gone through the arch-install and selected kde like desktop environment only.

Anyway fresh crash logs from

https://pastebin.com/R6Bw3C6u

Please consider both posts this one and previous one.
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#50 2023-01-21 11:09:51

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Re: Newbie stuck : installed graphics leads to freeze's

https://stevedoeslinux.com/new-logs-availble NewCrash20-1-23-603pm.txt

Jan 20 17:20:49 archlinux systemd-logind[587]: The system will reboot now!
Jan 20 17:20:49 archlinux systemd-logind[587]: System is rebooting.
Jan 20 17:20:49 archlinux sddm-helper[680]: Signal received: SIGTERM
Jan 20 17:20:49 archlinux systemd[1]: Stopping Session 2 of User steve...

https://pastebin.com/R6Bw3C6u NewCrash21-1-23-3.00am.txt

Jan 21 02:46:29 archlinux systemd-logind[553]: The system will reboot now!
Jan 21 02:46:29 archlinux systemd-logind[553]: System is rebooting.
Jan 21 02:46:29 archlinux sddm-helper[661]: Signal received: SIGTERM
Jan 21 02:46:29 archlinux systemd[1]: Stopping Session 2 of User steve...

Neither of those look like crashes, someone OR something instructed the system to reboot .

The first log has this just before the reboot is forced :

Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: If you have errors, report it on the discord channel of ArcoLinux
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Then launch the Arch Linux Tweak Tool again
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Created for :
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - ArcoLinux     - https://arcolinux.info/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Arch Linux    - https://archlinux.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Alci          - https://alci.online/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Carli         - https://arcolinuxiso.com/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Ariser        - https://ariser.eu/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - EndeavourOS   - https://endeavouros.com/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Garuda        - https://garudalinux.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Manjaro       - https://manjaro.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Xerolinux     - https://xerolinux.xyz/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Axyl          - https://axyl-os.github.io/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - RebornOS      - https://rebornos.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Archcraft     - https://archcraft.io/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - CachyOS       - https://cachyos.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]:  - Archman       - https://archman.org/
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Other Arch Linux based distros will be visited later
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Adding repositories should be done with great care - they can conflict
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Wayland desktops are not supported e.g. Sway/Hyprland/...
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: We make backups of files related to the ATT.
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: You can recognize them by the extension .bak
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: If we have a reset button, the .bak file will be used
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: If you have errors, because of the login managers
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: You can try running one of these scripts:
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Run fix-sddm-conf
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Run fix-lightdm-conf
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Run fix-lxdm-conf
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: You can receive ATT support on https://discord.gg/R2amEEz
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 20 17:20:33 archlinux streamdeck[12558]: Item has been added to autostart

That tool is NOT designed or maintained by archlinux devs or archlinux users.
It's designed by arcolinux devs and appears to be some kind of gui tool to manage a system.

The screenshot in the arcolinux github repo does show pacman .
pacman devs have NEVER released or designed a gui for pacman.

Please remove it immediately.


I can now find network manager in kicker menu, but its unpopulated, and not in the tray.

Please remember I have gone through the arch-install and selected kde like desktop environment only.

You just got bitten by the major cause of trouble with any installer that tries to make installing easy.
The people that create / maintain such an installer make decisions for you.

Your network is managed by systemd-networkd, systemd-timesyncd and systemd-resolved and you were not aware of that.

At this point in time you lack the understanding of your installation to be in control of it. This will lead to big problems.

archlinux is not a good fit for everyone and for now I am not convinced you are a good fit for it.


I want you to think hard whether archlinux is fit for you.
If you do decide to stick with archlinux please start with a fresh install from scratch following the installation guide.

I know it's  a lot of work and a huge amount of reading the first time you do it, but it's the best way to learn how your system and archlinux work together.
Doing this this way you will be responsible for making and executoing needed decisions and thus understand your system better and vastly increase the chance to stay in control of it.

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