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#51 2023-10-02 15:20:41

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#52 2023-10-02 16:01:00

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

Damn, it really does. I guess it's waiting until it's fixed then?

I got rid of "quiet" and added debug, earlyprintk=efi,keep, log_buf_len=16M but these messages go by so fast I can't really read it. Made a video of it and tried to slow playback down on youtube but quality isn't the best:  https://youtu.be/1dhZM3RdzyI

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#53 2023-10-02 18:35:07

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

Ah, the panel turns off (looks like it ends w/ unmounting the filesystems) -  I had hoped the system would just stall there and show you the tail of the log.

amdgpu.runpm=0 amdgpu.bapm=0 amdgpu.aspm=0 amdgpu.audio=0 amdgpu.msi=0 pcie_aspm=off

Ideally, "amdgpu.dpm=0" but most likely the system will just not usably boot w/ that at all.

This is just graping for straws, btw. the "aspm" parameters should be inert anyway.

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#54 2023-10-02 18:37:50

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

BTW is it any different with the LTS kernel?

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#55 2023-10-02 18:39:02

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p2123728

Edit: tl;dr it "works" b/c the amdgpu module crashes…

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#56 2023-10-02 18:43:27

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

seth wrote:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p2123728

Edit: tl;dr it "works" b/c the amdgpu module crashes…

Ah I see thanks! Also, I didn't realise this GPU is so new.

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#57 2023-10-02 18:50:58

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

seth do you think it is worth trying 6.6-rc4 or amd-drm-next?

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#58 2023-10-02 19:04:24

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

You're asking because you're gonna have to build that, right? wink

It certainly looks like support-in-progress (from complete failure in the LTS to only some shutdown issues now)
Otoh is the ubuntu/mint situation where things work despite (or maybe b/c) the system basically crashing out of the session. And the systemd relation…
Mint might simply resort to a forced shutdown if the init process doesn't respond :\

6.6 is still a month out, so depends on how curious the OP (or the users in the other thread) is - I don't think we'll get why it failed, but ideally it's just fixed w/ the update.
*shrug*

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#59 2023-10-02 19:27:27

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

loqs wrote:

seth do you think it is worth trying 6.6-rc4 or amd-drm-next?

Is there a manual on the wiki on how to get these running and what the best place is to find these? I found some stuff on AUR (linux-mainline, then linux-amd-drm-next and also linux-amd-staging-drm-next-git) but I'm not sure if those are the ones and if I can just build them using yay for example.

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#60 2023-10-02 19:34:52

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

You can just build/install https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-amd-drm-next and you can use yay for that, too. Yes.

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#61 2023-10-02 19:40:53

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

yay: yes, it's probably the most simple way. _somebody_ will spawn telling you not to use it, though.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_U … g_packages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … e_PKGBUILD => especially disabling the docs(chapter 2.1) and add the line "make localmodconfig" under prepare (chapter 2.2)
Edit: too slow smile

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Why I run Arch? To "BTW I run Arch" the guy one grade younger.
And to let my siblings and cousins laugh at Arsch Linux...

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#62 2023-10-03 09:13:53

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

Tried 6.6-rc4 and amd-drm-next but still the same issue. Also tried linux-firmware-git as it was suggested in a similar issue on the endeavour forum here and try to look for sp5100_tco or other stuff related to the watchdog but couldn't find any.

seth wrote:

Otoh is the ubuntu/mint situation where things work despite (or maybe b/c) the system basically crashing out of the session. And the systemd relation…
Mint might simply resort to a forced shutdown if the init process doesn't respond :\

If on mint the system is basically crashing out of the session is it even safe for my hardware to use that? I would use that then for a while until the issue may be resolved in future. Don't have another GPU that I can use as I sold my 2080 when I got the AMD one "working" on Mint hmm

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#63 2023-10-03 10:44:11

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

I don't think that a bunch of crashing userspace processes is gonna harm your HW, notably

Oct 01 15:38:47 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounted /run/user/1000/gvfs.
Oct 01 15:38:47 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounted /run/user/1000/doc.
Oct 01 15:38:47 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounted /run/user/1000.
Oct 01 15:38:48 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounting /boot/efi...
Oct 01 15:38:48 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounting /run/credentials/systemd-sysusers.service...
Oct 01 15:38:48 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounted /boot/efi.
Oct 01 15:38:48 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Unmounted /run/credentials/systemd-sysusers.service.
Oct 01 15:38:48 stoepsel-pc systemd[1]: Reached target Unmount All Filesystems.
Oct 01 15:38:49 stoepsel-pc systemd-shutdown[1]: Syncing filesystems and block devices.

Also Mint resorting to a forced shutdown is nothing but a wild theory to make any sense out of the data at hand.

Your watchdog module was iTCO_wdt, there's no indication for sp5100_tco being present.

Did you ever try to reboot from the rescue.target?

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#64 2023-10-03 13:07:03

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Re: New arch install - cant reboot or shutdown pc

Yeah, I still have iTCO_wdt on my blacklist. Reboot from rescue.target also doesn't work.

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