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icewolf0110

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 15

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Complaining about volunteer work, and in a rude way at that?
Kids these days...

So the users cannot submit issue as their pissed problem and tell the developer to fix it?

And I confirm, I still can play games, the update was blocked, as it should be.

dude, you cant run gpu required games smoothly when your os missing the graphic driver as I do rn. I just want to enjoy my off day is too much?

ernesto159

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From: France

Registered: 2022-02-08

Posts: 10

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Hi,

You can use this as a temporary fix, this is basically a full system upgrade ignoring the nvidia related packages.
Run this: sudo pacman -Syu --ignore=nvidia-utils --ignore=nvidia-settings --ignore=opencl-nvidia --ignore=libxnvctrl

nvidia-utils is not the only package part of the nvidia family that was promoted to extra, so you need to ignore the other ones as well (the pacman command above only lists the package I have installed, there might be more of them).
Basically, ignore anything that has nvidia or nv in the name and has a version of 545.29.02.

Since Linux 6.6 is in testing, I guess there will not be anymore Linux 6.5 updates there, so it should be safe to do this for now. If not before, the issue will be fixed by itself when Linux 6.6 gets promoted to core.

Other possibilities: switch to the dkms version of the drivers or replace linux with linux-lts.

cornibus

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Registered: 2021-10-19

Posts: 9

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Complaining about volunteer work, and in a rude way at that?
Kids these days...

I totally agree. I don't get people who seriously complain about Linux especially Arch like they paid for it

I've been using Arch for almost 16 years now and learned that when things like this happen, it won't harm if you just wait it out.
Drastic approach like doing a fresh install will just give you more pain in the rear. Been there, done that.
Some people are complaining about not being able to game like it's far more important than being nice to anyone. The world we live in

Last edited by cornibus (2023-11-04 10:24:43)

phunni

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From: Bristol, UK

Registered: 2003-08-13

Posts: 794

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

As someone affected by this bug, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank package maintainers. I can't remember the last time something like this happened (that affected me anyway) and I'm a very happy arch user of many years now.

Thanks for all the hard work of Arch volunteers!

dude, you cant run gpu required games smoothly when your os missing the graphic driver as I do rn. I just want to enjoy my off day is too much?

It is a little bit too much yes. You're acting extremely entitled - you get all of this for free and, (reading between the lines) because you decided to reinstall your os, you have a particular problem that won't affect others who use this package - I can still play games. It's no one elses responsibility to make sure you can play games on your computer.

icewolf0110

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 15

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

It's no one elses responsibility to make sure you can play games on your computer.

I dont agree with your opinion. As a community we commit the mistake and together solve the problem, that's the spirit of the open source. As your opinion "It's your problem, I dont give a shit", what if there's more than me (obviously true) encounter the same problem and left the distro cuz this pissed they off? So what is the point of maintaining a distro for if there's no one using it?

icewolf0110

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 15

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Drastic approach like doing a fresh install will just give you more pain in the rear. Been there, done that.

I was just distro hopping from fedora to try arch after a very long time to try new things. So would you give me an advice like "go back to fedora" ?

Warze

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 1

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Hello!
When will this issue be resolved and what can one do to install the nvidia packages in the meantime?

silentprocyon

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 1

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

First, I'd like to say thank you to the Arch package maintainers for all the work you do!

A little oppsie once in a while is fine, I don't mind at all.

I agree with this sentiment.

I just feel bad for the beginners trying to install for the first time while this is happening.

Though this is something that concerns me a bit more.

From Wiki System maintenance, section 3.1

When updates require out-of-the-ordinary user intervention (more than what can be handled simply by following the instructions given by pacman), an appropriate news post will be made.

Should the issue be mentioned under the site news, or is it probably going to be fixed quickly enough where it wouldn't be worth it?

Last edited by silentprocyon (2023-11-04 11:37:15)

NorPhi

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From: North rhine-Westphalia

Registered: 2015-08-26

Posts: 10

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Kinda a timing problem, this change was done early Friday morning (UTC), the bug report filled at 5 pm and everyone left for the weekend. I don't see this being fixed before Monday, so this leaves a sour taste to everyone who needed to update graphics drivers to play some games on their day or reinstall a driver for some other reason. There not being any news about this either is the cherry on top. This probably should have been pushed on a Monday instead, this feels more like a Monday bug, not a Friday one.

dr1fter

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From: Germany

Registered: 2022-01-21

Posts: 51

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

@NorPhi: apparently we are in luck: issue seems to have been fixed in the past few minutes :-)

loqs

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Registered: 2014-03-06

Posts: 18,654

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

The issue has been resolved [1].

[1]: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/80148#comment223383

adomas

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From: Berlin, Germany

Registered: 2011-01-05

Posts: 43

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I'm having this issue since yesterday evening, was thinking that it is a delay in repository sync or something similar. I see some people recommend to switch to nvidia-dkms as a solution. I would like to try it, as I think like NorPhi said, this might take until Monday to get fixed.

Now if I switch to nvidia-dkms package temporary, it will be easy to switch back? As I understand, this nvidia-dkms is intended for custom kernels, is it ok to use with default current linux kernel?

EDIT: while I was posting this, the issue seems to be resolved! I'm happy about the effort Arch Linux community puts into this, even on the weekends!

Last edited by adomas (2023-11-04 12:22:33)

cornibus

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Registered: 2021-10-19

Posts: 9

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I was just distro hopping from fedora to try arch after a very long time to try new things. So would you give me an advice like "go back to fedora" ?

Well, that's your prerogative my friend. You can either go back to using Fedora or, you can stay and just stop being a d1ck. Just saying. It's up to you, either way I'll support you
Anyways, the issue has been resolved. See, it didn't take long. Patience is a virtue indeed

Last edited by cornibus (2023-11-04 12:24:31)

Aka271

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Registered: 2023-11-03

Posts: 9

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Package is updated now!
Have Fun and a great day :)

Last edited by Aka271 (2023-11-04 12:24:31)

JeanLucJ

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Registered: 2019-03-08

Posts: 59

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I'm having this issue since yesterday evening, was thinking that it is a delay in repository sync or something similar. I see some people recommend to switch to nvidia-dkms as a solution. I would like to try it, as I think like NorPhi said, this might take until Monday to get fixed.

Now if I switch to nvidia-dkms package temporary, it will be easy to switch back? As I understand, this nvidia-dkms is intended for custom kernels, is it ok to use with default current linux kernel?

EDIT: while I was posting this, the issue seems to be resolved! I'm happy about the effort Arch Linux community puts into this, even on the weekends!

It's a little cumbersome, but not very hard :
When you will want to switch back, you will have to remove the nvidia dkms module, or it won't work.
Nothing more than

dkms remove [module name]

module name includes version, as displayed with

dkms status

ignuthat

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Registered: 2022-03-23

Posts: 22

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I was able to upgrade successfully to the 445 driver. The flashing black screen bug is finally fixed, it seems. And the picture quality seems improved on KDE Plasma for some reason.

icewolf0110

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Registered: 2023-11-04

Posts: 15

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

You can either go back to using Fedora or, you can stay and just stop being a d1ck. Just saying.

it's so polite that you are comparing with a dick and teach me that I should be nice to other people )

seth

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Registered: 2012-09-03

Posts: 70,064

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Couple of things:
This is a packaging bug and of course needed to be reported and addressed.
Being free or the work of volunteers has no impact on that whatsoever, it can be expected to be fixed and this forum exists to ask what's going on, what to do and whether there're workarounds etcetc.

But shit happens, that's the nature of life.
This kind of situation is not, has not been and will not be in the future a reason to stage a drama (everybody survived) or, let alone, brigade against developers (esp. since that seems to have been misdirected in ignorance of the actual cause)

The situation has been resolved and everyone can move along and on with their lives, ideally in a somewhat civil manner.

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ewaller

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From: Pasadena, CA

Registered: 2009-07-13

Posts: 20,501

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Let's give thanks for this redacted ... Sorry, I just couldn’t resist, it looks like it’s time to move to another distribution.

Good bye.

Last edited by ewaller (2023-11-04 15:03:00)

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ewaller

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Registered: 2009-07-13

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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

icewolf0110, consider this a warning.  It would appear you registered for the express purpose of troll the forums.  Prove me wrong.

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faetter

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Registered: 2019-09-21

Posts: 26

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Couple of things:
This is a packaging bug and of course needed to be reported and addressed.
Being free or the work of volunteers has no impact on that whatsoever, it can be expected to be fixed and this forum exists to ask what's going on, what to do and whether there're workarounds etcetc.

But shit happens, that's the nature of life.
This kind of situation is not, has not been and will not be in the future a reason to stage a drama (everybody survived) or, let alone, brigade against developers (esp. since that seems to have been misdirected in ignorance of the actual cause)

Couldn't agree more, many thanks to all those involved for fixing this so quickly!

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Ujjawal Gupta

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Registered: 2023-10-30

Posts: 1

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I was just about to make a thread myself, just tried to do an update and hit with:

sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronising package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: unable to satisfy dependency 'nvidia-utils=535.113.01' required by nvidia

resolved now

FernandoBasso

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2010-10-27

Posts: 101

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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Had the same problem. Successful upgrade just now.

EDIT: Didn't see previous posts mentioning it was already solved (had old comments loaded and forgot to refresh).

EDIT: Getting a black screen after waking up from hibernation. But I guess that is another topic.

Last edited by FernandoBasso (2023-11-07 10:19:52)

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