[SOLVED] Gnome 46 on X.Org crashes shortly after logging in

yurus · 2024-04-02 02:21:40

Through trial and error it appears that if I open the Terminal immediately after login the crash does not occur and I can open another apps right after without issues.

yurus · 2024-04-02 02:25:56

yurus wrote:

Through trial and error it appears that if I open the Terminal immediately after login the crash does not occur and I can open another apps right after without issues.

I rebooted a couple of times with the Terminal as a startup application and the crash did not occur anymore.

werefkin · 2024-04-02 06:22:05

yurus wrote:

yurus wrote:
Through trial and error it appears that if I open the Terminal immediately after login the crash does not occur and I can open another apps right after without issues.
I rebooted a couple of times with the Terminal as a startup application and the crash did not occur anymore.

Could you please test again, as I have also had a feeling it crashes less if I run terminal, but it still do

seth · 2024-04-02 07:15:40

As a "warning", the 46.0-2 rebuild might have made things worse: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=294495

werefkin · 2024-04-02 08:06:11

seth wrote:

As a "warning", the 46.0-2 rebuild might have made things worse: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=294495

Thanks for the info, Mutter has updated yesterday, nothing has changed

seth · 2024-04-02 08:27:19

The just provided backtrace there looks vastly different from all other recent crash patterns, I don't think it's related to your situation.
Sorry for the noise.

Have you been able to confirm yurus' recent findings or does gnome still crash on you, xterm or no xterm?
Oh, and @yurus: is it actually xterm, gnome-terminal or gnome-console?

M-Reimer · 2024-04-02 14:40:44

I likely run into the same problem. For me it is some "ugliness" which started a few system updates ago (probably right after Gnome 46 landed first).

I have a small shell script in my home directory which is configured to be auto-started on login. It does some configuration (like allowing some user accounts, I use for development, to access the X server) and then finally opens two "gnome-terminal" applications.

Right after Gnome 46 landed this script still worked "OK" but the two opened terminal windows are not visible in the automatically entered "overview mode". I see them in the "task bar area" (lower bar on the main screen) but don't see the windows itself in overview. I have to close overview once and reopen it. Then the two terminal windows are visible.

This ugly state made Gnome unstable for me sometimes but with the latest updates this autostart script more or less gives me instant crashes. I don't know how to better "isolate" this autostart so it does not make Gnome hang. Having a script where I can just enter the applications I want to autostart actually was quite handy.

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seth · 2024-04-02 15:37:05

As far as the bug in this thread goes, delaying the autostart should™ help?
Disabling the autostart script completely "fixes" it?
Do you have the "Window manager warning: META_CURRENT_TIME used to choose focus window" in your journal after a crash?

yurus · 2024-04-02 16:19:07

seth wrote:

The just provided backtrace there looks vastly different from all other recent crash patterns, I don't think it's related to your situation.
Sorry for the noise.
Have you been able to confirm yurus' recent findings or does gnome still crash on you, xterm or no xterm?
Oh, and @yurus: is it actually xterm, gnome-terminal or gnome-console?

It was gnome-terminal.

werefkin · 2024-04-02 16:44:52

seth wrote:

The just provided backtrace there looks vastly different from all other recent crash patterns, I don't think it's related to your situation.
Sorry for the noise.
Have you been able to confirm yurus' recent findings or does gnome still crash on you, xterm or no xterm?
Oh, and @yurus: is it actually xterm, gnome-terminal or gnome-console?

It crashes on with the start of terminal, though it looks less frequent (also for nautilus) than for anything else. It can be subjective

To be honest, I am about to downgrade to 45. The problem is pretty interesting, and I want to dive into, but this is my main mashine and as I am not a developer, but a researcher, i need to have it running :-D Though I am not yet there

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seth · 2024-04-02 16:57:58

You can look up older journals ("sudo journalctl -b -1" for the previous boot) - since there seem to be two different conditions you likely want to know which bucket you fall into.

yurus · 2024-04-02 21:48:27

werefkin wrote:

yurus wrote:
yurus wrote:
Through trial and error it appears that if I open the Terminal immediately after login the crash does not occur and I can open another apps right after without issues.
I rebooted a couple of times with the Terminal as a startup application and the crash did not occur anymore.
Could you please test again, as I have also had a feeling it crashes less if I run terminal, but it still do

Rebooted a couple of times and with the gnome-terminal as a startup application the shell didn't crash even once for me. On the other hand, opening Nautilus at startup crashed GNOME instantly.

seth · 2024-04-02 21:53:51

gnome-terminal is still GTK3, possibly even xwayland - does gnome-console act more like nautilus?
W/ the running gnome-teriminal, can you immediately start other clients (nautilus…) w/o gnome-shell crashing on you?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Waylan … s_visually

yurus · 2024-04-02 21:58:53

seth wrote:

gnome-terminal is still GTK3, possibly even xwayland - does gnome-console act more like nautilus?
W/ the running gnome-teriminal, can you immediately start other clients (nautilus…) w/o gnome-shell crashing on you?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Waylan … s_visually

As soon as the Terminal opens I can open another app without the shell crashing. And I'm using full X11 (checked everything with xeyes)

seth · 2024-04-02 22:06:31

And I'm using full X11

Sorry, the various "gnome 46 crashes on start" threads start to mix up in my head
Ok, so the most likely difference is between gtk4 & gtk3 - feel free to test gnome-console instead whenever you're ready to see another gnome crash.

werefkin · 2024-04-04 17:40:59

Seems we now have a confirmation that it is an upstream issue,
there was someone who compiled mutter with one of merges reverted, apparently it works.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/- … te_2073067

I guess it is a solution, though my easter holidays are over, I have to entangle photons, and would not have time to dive into

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archyarchface · 2024-04-07 14:15:16

Seems fixed with Mutter 46.0-3 - and thank you for that.

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … 0d47405b26

yurus · 2024-04-07 16:04:30

archyarchface wrote:

Seems fixed with Mutter 46.0-3 - and thank you for that.
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … 0d47405b26

I was about to say that. Yes, it seems that they fixed.

Thanks everyone.

werefkin · 2024-04-09 19:30:45

Yes, can also confirm that it is fixed

seth · 2024-04-09 19:40:23

\o/
Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

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