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#326 2007-09-10 02:08:06

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

That's odd, no idea.

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#327 2007-09-10 02:32:14

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Mith, if I were you I would just double-check to make sure you've installed the libx11 from testing... run pacman -Qi libx11 and make sure the output matches this:

Version        : 1.1.3-4

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#328 2007-09-10 02:39:11

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

root@mith-desktop /home/mith $ pacman -Qi libx11 | grep Version
Version        : 1.1.3-4

oddly though it also says "Installed as a dependency for another package", which I'm not sure if that makes sense or not since I installed it from testing and not as a dependency

ps:
I also installed libx11 with "pacman -Sf libx11" since it complained about xorg.sh being already there or some error along that line
not sure if that might cause the problem I'm having

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#329 2007-09-10 03:43:03

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Hrmm, mine properly reports that it was Explicitly installed, but other than that everything sounds the same... I also had to force the install due to xorg.sh.


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#330 2007-09-10 03:50:54

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

The xorg.sh issue is because you aren't using all of testing.

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#331 2007-09-10 06:13:28

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

i'm new to linux and am trying to install compiz-fusion. followed the wiki and think i have everything setup right. edited pacman.conf and put in compiz-fusion with nesl247's server.when i try to pacman -Sy compiz-fusion-git it tells me it's not in the sync db. i don't know if it has anything to do with it or not and i don't see how but all my other mirrors are FTP and his is HTTP. any ideas? i can get it from source if i have to but i don't like it when something that should work doesn't. i'd like to figure it out. thank you

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#332 2007-09-10 10:47:43

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Mith wrote:

hey guys,
I enabled nesl's compiz-fusion repo and installed libx11 from testing.. now I get this error

pacman -Sy compiz-fusion-git
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 current is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 kdemod is up to date
 compiz-fusion is up to date
:: group compiz-fusion-git:
    ccsm-git  compiz-bcop-git  compiz-fusion-plugins-atlantis-git  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-git  compiz-fusion-plugins-main-git
    compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-git  compizconfig-backend-gconf-git  compizconfig-python-git  emerald-git  emerald-themes-git  fusion-icon-git
    libcompizconfig-git
:: Install whole content? [Y/n]
resolving dependencies... done.
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: libx11-xcb conflicts with libx11. Remove libx11? [Y/n] n
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: libx11-xcb: conflicts with libx11

now I try to remove libx11-xcb but I get another error smile

Why would you want to remove a package that isn't installed?
For some reasons, pacman believes compiz git requires libx11-xcb, and so ask you if you want to replace libx11 by libx11-xcb, not the other way around..

The --debug pacman output might give a clue about what exactly requires libx11-xcb.


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#333 2007-09-10 10:49:23

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

flyer wrote:

i'm new to linux and am trying to install compiz-fusion. followed the wiki and think i have everything setup right. edited pacman.conf and put in compiz-fusion with nesl247's server.when i try to pacman -Sy compiz-fusion-git it tells me it's not in the sync db. i don't know if it has anything to do with it or not and i don't see how but all my other mirrors are FTP and his is HTTP. any ideas? i can get it from source if i have to but i don't like it when something that should work doesn't. i'd like to figure it out. thank you

Do you see the compiz-fusion repo being synced on pacman -Sy?
And then, does pacman -Ss compiz return any packages from this repo?


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#334 2007-09-10 14:21:26

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

I saved the debug output in a text file and looked for libx11 in there

root@mith-desktop /home/mith $ cat pacman.output | grep -n libx11
92:debug: missing dependency 'libx11-xcb' for package 'compiz-git'
343:debug: pulling dependency libx11-xcb (needed by compiz-git)
524:debug: package 'libx11-xcb' not found in sync
525:debug: adding package libx11-xcb-1.1.3-1 to the transaction targets
586:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
646:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
648:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
712:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
784:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
855:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
920:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
979:debug:    sorting libx11-xcb
1053:debug: cannot find package installed 'libx11-xcb'
1213:debug: depcmp: libx11-xcb-1.1.3-1 ~= libx11-xcb => match
1280:debug: checkconflicts: target 'libx11-xcb' vs db
1281:debug:    found conflict 'libx11' : package 'libx11-xcb'
1282:debug: checkconflicts: target 'libx11-xcb' vs all targets
1283:debug: checkconflicts: db vs target 'libx11-xcb'
1294:debug:     CONFLICTS:: libx11-xcb conflicts with libx11
1295:debug: package 'libx11-xcb' conflicts with 'libx11'
1296:debug: found package 'libx11-xcb-1.1.3-1' in sync
1297:debug: package 'libx11-xcb' provides its own conflict
1298:debug: resolving package 'libx11-xcb' conflicterror: unresolvable package conflicts detected:: libx11-xcb: conflicts with libx11

so line 343 says it's pulling libx11-xcb because compiz-git needs it ...

missing dependency 'compiz-git' for package 'ccsm-git'

so ccsm-git pulls compiz-git, which pulls libx11-xcb, which conflicts with libx11 ....
does that help ? smile

Last edited by Mith (2007-09-10 14:29:45)


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#335 2007-09-10 15:52:12

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Do you see the compiz-fusion repo being synced on pacman -Sy?
And then, does pacman -Ss compiz return any packages from this repo?

i have to report no to both questions. if it would sync i would probably be good to go. thank you


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#336 2007-09-10 15:58:27

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

flyer wrote:

Do you see the compiz-fusion repo being synced on pacman -Sy?
And then, does pacman -Ss compiz return any packages from this repo?

i have to report no to both questions. if it would sync i would probably be good to go. thank you

Maybe you should double check your pacman.conf , and if you don't see any errors, maybe paste it here.


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#337 2007-09-10 16:18:13

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Mith wrote:

so line 343 says it's pulling libx11-xcb because compiz-git needs it ...

I'm not sure I understand why compiz-git requires libx11-xcb, it doesn't depend on it. And I don't have this problem here.
Which repo are you using, and are you synced with it?


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#338 2007-09-10 16:36:13

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

ok SHINING here it is:                                                                                                                                                                                           

#/etc/pacman.conf
#
# NOTE: If you find a mirror that is geographically close to you, please
#       move it to the top of the server list, so pacman will choose it
#       first.
#
# To re-sort your mirror lists by ping/traceroute results, use the
# usr/binsortmirrors script. It requires the "netselect" package.
#

# See the pacman manpage for option directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
Logfile     = /var/log/pacman.log
NoUpgrade   = etc/passwd etc/group etc/shadow etc/sudoers
NoUpgrade   = etc/fstab etc/raidtab etc/ld.so.conf
NoUpgrade   = etc/rc.conf etc/rc.local
NoUpgrade   = etc/modprobe.conf etc/modules.conf
NoUpgrade   = etc/lilo.conf boot/grub/menu.lst
HoldPkg     = pacman glibc
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -0 %o %u
#IgnorePkg   = kernel26
#

# REPOSITORIES 
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#

#[testing]
#Server = ftp://archlinux.org/testing/os/i686

[current]
# add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
include = /etc/pacman.d/current

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
include = /etc/pacman.d/extra

#[unstable]
# add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/unstable

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/community

[compiz-fusion]
Include = http://arch.nesl247.org/compiz-fusion/i686



# An example of a custom package repository. See the pacmanpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories
#[custom]
#Server = file:///home/custompkg

i don't see anything wrong. but then i can't get it to work so something isn't right. thank you


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#339 2007-09-10 17:08:45

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

flyer wrote:

i don't see anything wrong. but then i can't get it to work so something isn't right. thank you

Maybe look again at the first post in this thread.


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#340 2007-09-10 17:24:11

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

SHINING, stupid of me. i had include instead of server. read that thing 10 times and didn't catch that. just changed it and it syncs up fine. thank you


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#341 2007-09-10 18:41:46

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

shining wrote:
Mith wrote:

so line 343 says it's pulling libx11-xcb because compiz-git needs it ...

I'm not sure I understand why compiz-git requires libx11-xcb, it doesn't depend on it. And I don't have this problem here.
Which repo are you using, and are you synced with it?

I'm using Nesl's repo and yes I am synced with it smile

[compiz-fusion]
Server = http://arch.nesl247.org/compiz-fusion/x86_64

maybe I should just try the AUR way and give up on the packages....... sad


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#342 2007-09-10 19:37:07

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Mith wrote:
shining wrote:
Mith wrote:

so line 343 says it's pulling libx11-xcb because compiz-git needs it ...

I'm not sure I understand why compiz-git requires libx11-xcb, it doesn't depend on it. And I don't have this problem here.
Which repo are you using, and are you synced with it?

I'm using Nesl's repo and yes I am synced with it smile

[compiz-fusion]
Server = http://arch.nesl247.org/compiz-fusion/x86_64

maybe I should just try the AUR way and give up on the packages....... sad

Oh, x86_64, that explains everything, In that repo, compiz-git does depend on libx11-xcb. So everything is normal on pacman side.


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#343 2007-09-10 19:51:10

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

shining wrote:

Oh, x86_64, that explains everything, In that repo, compiz-git does depend on libx11-xcb. So everything is normal on pacman side.

so you're saying I should in fact remove libx11 in favor of libx11-xcb?


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#344 2007-09-10 19:57:11

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Does that mean that 64-bit Archers do not need to add the [testing] repo before installing the Compiz Fusion packages?  If that's the case then I'll update the wiki accordingly.


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#345 2007-09-10 20:15:42

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No, leave the wiki as is. The 64 repo will be updated to use testing today.

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#346 2007-09-11 00:53:34

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

paul2lv updated the x86_64 repo, so the testing repo is now required for BOTH arch's.

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#347 2007-09-11 00:55:36

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The x86_64 repo has been updated, and the dependency on libx11-xcb has been eliminated (I hope). Please use the libx11 from testing. Thanks.

EDIT: You post too fast, nesl247!! tongue

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#348 2007-09-11 03:39:45

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I have updated the wiki again to make the [testing] instructions a bit clearer.  I do have some questions though:

1. Under the troubleshooting section where it states to start Compiz Fusion with one of the following commands:
LD_PRELOAD=/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1.2 compiz --replace &
LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace ccp &

Is this something that must be run only once, or should users be adding this to their Startup Sessions along with fusion-icon?

2. I still have a broken icon for fusion-icon in the panel... is there a fix for this?


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#349 2007-09-11 03:52:51

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Re: Compiz Fusion Repository

Also just wanted to mention my results with Compiz Fusion so far... My ATI X1400 (fgrlx drivers) seems pretty choppy with just about every effect but the wobbly windows.  For example, Ring Switcher is a bit jerky and seems to redraw slower than it should, producing minor artifacts  as it does.

I hope the next fglrx version brings things more up to speed, but I'm curious to know if other ATI owners ( >R400 ) have had better luck.


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#350 2007-09-11 17:27:40

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thayer.w wrote:

but I'm curious to know if other ATI owners ( >R400 ) have had better luck.

I have X700 (R410, I think) and Compiz Fusion works like a dream, using open source (radeon) driver. Everything is stable & fast. The only problem is the 3D effects, which because of the driver, is a little slower than it should be.

I have tried fglrx and while the 3D effect is faster when using it (much, much more faster), the whole thing was so unstable (thanks to damnable GLX & no ALGLX supports)  that it crashes my desktop every now and then.

But as long as I use the open source driver, everything is as smooth as silk. And so the moral of this story is, if you have ATi card, then use open source driver if you can. If you card isn't supported by the open source driver then, well, you're in for a tough ride until ATi rolls out new driver that supports AIGLX. Let's hope the next fglrx driver is as good as they said it would be.

Now this is why having a semi-obsolete graphic card can be a good thing. big_smile

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