no menus and cannot run applications under gnome?

sinister99 · 2007-09-08 02:28:14

sickhate wrote:

i just figure out a big part..well i installed all the packages that i had on testing current unstable commmunity..and i got the error..but what i did was to clean the cache and update without the testing repo active...i downgraded a few packages..and puff all is normal now...its the second time repo testing fails big time...for over a year it didnt fail so thats good anyway its one of this package...just dont know with one..but its on testing...so the devs didnt had it tested yet...never nome for testing..this was an anoying problm for me...never the less...arch rules hehehe
sudo pacman -U coreutils-6.9-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz cpio-2.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz goffice-0.4.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz griffith-0.9.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz gvim-7.1.87-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz libgsf-gnome-1.14.5-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz libwpd-0.8.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz libxau-1.0.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz libxfontcache-1.0.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz libxrender-0.9.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz mediawiki-1.10.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz xproto-7.0.10-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
this were the packages i downgraded reboot the gnome and all is ok!
exluded off all but this 3.. binutils-2.18-1 libxau-1.0.3-1 xproto-7.0.10-2 ..of of them is causin the gnome menu to fail...well im going to compile them to see if it work right..
ok ive compiled them..and they dont work properly...stil...God bless arch

I downgraded my testing packages, and it fixed my problem.

madpun · 2007-09-08 14:16:37

thx sickhate

voidzero · 2007-09-09 11:06:59

This problem also occurs to me, might it be nesl247's repo that's broken it?

Anyway, I guess there's no real way to fix this is there? How should one go about downgrading when pacman doesn't support downgrading, and I have no older packages on my system? Did gnome just break forever?

nesl247 · 2007-09-09 14:23:57

voidzero, do you have kde installed? kdemod specifically. If so, remove all of kdemod. That's what I did, everything went back to normal.

dunkelstern · 2007-09-09 14:25:48

I found something.

libX11-1.1.3-4 includes /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh, whereas previously xproto-7.0.10-1 included the file.
So i think if you are not on the newest update with both packages the XDG Data dirs environment is missing so your desktop environment can't find its applinks.

This seems to imply that you must have libX11 and not libX11-xcb installed.

voidzero · 2007-09-09 14:54:38

@nesl247, I don't have kdemod installed:

# pacman -Qs kde  
local/amarok-base 1.4.7-1
    amaroK - a media player for KDE
local/fam 2.7.0-9
    File Alteration Monitor - used by KDE, GNOME and others
local/icon-naming-utils 0.8.5-1
    Maps the new names of icons for Tango to the legacy names used by the GNOME
    and KDE desktops.
local/kde-common 3.5.7-1 (kde)
    Artwork and config stuff for KDE
local/kdelibs 3.5.7-5 (kde)
    KDE Core Libraries
local/koffice 1.6.3-2
    An integrated Office suite for KDE
anubis ~ # pacman -Qs libX11
local/libx11-xcb 1.1.3-1
    X11 client-side library

Also it's impossible for me to install libx11 instead of libX11-xcb:

# pacman -S libx11
resolving dependencies... done.
looking for inter-conflicts... 
:: libx11 conflicts with libx11-xcb. Remove libx11-xcb? [Y/n] y
done.
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: libx11-xcb requires aalib
:: libx11-xcb requires dbus
:: libx11-xcb requires libwmf
:: libx11-xcb requires libxext
:: libx11-xcb requires libxfixes
:: libx11-xcb requires libxkbfile
:: libx11-xcb requires libxrender
:: libx11-xcb requires libxt
:: libx11-xcb requires sdl
:: libx11-xcb requires startup-notification
:: libx11-xcb requires x264
:: libx11-xcb requires xorg-xinit
:: libx11-xcb requires compiz-git
:: libx11-xcb requires tk
:: libx11-xcb requires amsn

The trick where I tried to copy /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu to ~/.config/menus helped only for the kde icons... certainly not for all. Is it smart to try and reinstall all gnome apps again?

wickedlester · 2007-09-09 15:13:14

voidzero, xorg.sh is included with libx11 1.1.3-4 and is not in libx11-xcb 1.1.3-1. It used to be included with xproto-7.0.10-1 but is now not included with xproto-7.0.10-2

voidzero · 2007-09-09 16:21:38

I see.

Anyway, I have tried to update all of my gnome, gnome-extra and compiz-fusion-git packages and this has not resolved the issue. So I still have lost my entire menu structure and icons.... got more clues, guys?

dunkelstern · 2007-09-09 19:45:13

Perhaps someone could file a bug for libX11-xcb to include the xorg.sh script.

nesl247 · 2007-09-09 19:48:13

Ah, what's libx11-xcb have to do with this? And what xorg.sh script. libx11-xcb is a the same thing as libx11 except without the --without-xcb.

mildred · 2007-09-09 20:36:19

Hi, I had the same problem after an update ... (I have the testing repository too).
Empty application menu and no icons (or very few). KDE works well (icons and menu)
I uninstalled and reinstalled few packages related to XDG menus w/o success.

I'm currently upgrading to gnome 2.19, I'll tell you if that solves the problem. if tht doesn't work, I'll disable testing.

cthulhufhtagn · 2007-09-09 20:46:06

I don't know exactly why is that, but as I posted late last night at kdemod forum, I installed libx11 over libx11-xcb forcing dependencies and the menu issue was solved. In addittion, I had previously removed all X stuff (including libx11-xcb) in my other computer, and installed everything again from testing and the problem had been solved. That's what made my think the problem was already solved, but when upgraded to testing my main computer, the issue was still there. Then I saw the info posted by dunkel at kdemod about libx11 and tried forcing the installation of libx11 (I didn't even remember I had libx11-xcb installed), and IT WORKED.

nesl247 · 2007-09-09 21:08:07

Aha, reading that forum and I understand now. I've now removed libx11-xcb from the aur, and from the compiz-fusion repo. The testing repo is now required.

cmmig · 2007-09-09 21:21:04

i think if you install libx11 and xproto from current that the menus reappear, mine are back now after doing that

"pacman -S current/libx11 current/xproto" should work

nesl247 · 2007-09-09 21:22:22

The issue was for those that had libx11-xcb and used the testing repo. xorg.sh was move to libx11, which libx11-xcb didn't contain.

cmmig · 2007-09-09 21:27:10

ok, i removed libx11-xcb before i installed libx11 and xproto from current; all is well now here

voidzero · 2007-09-09 21:40:43

Yes, it works for me now as well. Thanks guys!

kishd · 2007-09-10 04:09:27

*deleted the post as I was reading a cached version of the board and the point was already made*

Last edited by kishd (2007-09-10 04:15:22)

veek · 2007-09-11 17:24:46

Yikes what an insidious error.

My icons themes stopped working recently and I was troubleshooting, but I wasn't even remotely on the right track.

How did you guys discover that the problem was with a missing xorg.sh? I was obviously using the libx11-xcb package
but never suspected it.

Thanks for the thread, saved me endless flailing about.

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