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#476 2007-10-25 10:46:24

a1ex
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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

foxbunny wrote:

a1ex, yellow stands for energy. I just wanted to bring out an entirely different side of Arch Linux. smile

mh. the sun itself is dangerous and impossible to control... or warm and comfortable on earth sometimes, which both doesnt fit archlinux. I'd definately love that logo if it was blue and represented earth.

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#477 2007-10-25 10:55:54

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept


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#478 2007-10-25 10:57:25

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Heheh, but the Arch is there to control the raw energy. That's why it is wrapped around the Sun.

Tell you what. Try putting the 'regular' wallpaper on your desktop and give it a few days, and tell me how it feels.

Color is something quite subjective, and, unfortunately, there isn't a single color that will please everyone. I find yellow quite energizing, and far from uncontrollable. Actually, it feels positive and enthusiastic.

Also, please keep in mind that I have created the logo as part of an integrated image campaign that accompanies it (the poster, for example, and more to come). Those all serve to further define the meaning of the colors, shapes, and idea behind the logo. With a color change, the whole concept goes down the drain.

Yeah, and one more thing. I've already noted that the symbolics of the logo may be equally arrogant as the King Penguin concept. The Sun is the Arch, the best and most powerful distro the world has ever seen (or at least we want it to be / thik it is). Also, it (Arch) is the center of this community and it gives us all the energy (with which we participate in the community life). So it has many meanings, not just energy and or warmth. Also, it empowers the user (by giving her/him full control over the system, instead of trying to handle things on its own), which is, for me, similar to what sun does for us. It gives us energy to do things, live our lifes...

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#479 2007-10-25 11:00:14

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

freigeist wrote:

Seen it. The first one looks like a set of claws to me. At least that was the first thought that came to my mind. The second one is nice. I saw it a long time ago on kde-look.org and I liked it then, too.

BTW, please use the new submission form. I posted it here:

http://foxbunny.team88.org/arch/forms/

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#480 2007-10-25 12:17:53

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

heavenquake wrote:

Is there a deadline for submitting artwork?

From the very thread you quoted in your link: Submit completed submission sheet attached in an email to travis AT archlinux.org. They will be posted in this thread; two weeks after the date of this post, we will collect all submissions in that thread and judge.

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#481 2007-10-25 13:34:43

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

People who want to use the Arch-Alpha-Sun logo to create some artwork, please use these guidelines, and talk to me if you are not sure:

Basic positioning and size:
http://archlinux.team88.org/main.php?g2_itemId=1747

Basic color and lighting:
http://archlinux.team88.org/main.php?g2_itemId=1744

I haven't defined any guidelines for alternative color schemes, except the colors themselves, so feel free to experiment, but please e-mail me a copy so I can have a look.

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#482 2007-10-25 14:01:02

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 57#p292957

Hahahah! That is fun artwork, wulax. The left leg of "A" shoud be slightly misaligned though. It should stick out just a little bit. Not too much, though.

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#483 2007-10-25 18:35:48

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Well, I have a new design. I'd like to hear your comments, I still prefer foxbunnys design over mine... wink
My new logo: p@cman

Cheers Sigi

edit: I thinks its obvious where I borrewed the pacman idea wink

Last edited by Sigi (2007-10-25 18:36:39)


Haven't been here in a while. Still rocking Arch. smile

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#484 2007-10-25 18:42:10

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

That's actually pretty cool, Sigi.

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#485 2007-10-25 19:13:38

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Argh... my brain... smile

Sigi, my brain (which is admittedly very tired after work) is not able to decide if ti is seeing a pacman or an 'a'. smile Anyway, nice design. Very nice colors.

In scale downs, I think it would be better to replace the pacman with a circle, rather than using only the pacman. Alternatively, you could make the logo progressively thinner as you scale it down and I think it should scale just fine.

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#486 2007-10-25 19:29:12

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

At the very least, it is truly a fresh idea ...
(Sigi's concept)

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#487 2007-10-25 19:37:12

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Yes, very fresh indeed... With respect to the pacman though, I think it would be 'foxed' almost immediately by the lawyers of the Pacman franchise.


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#488 2007-10-25 21:27:01

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The first logo on the post is the greatest!!


Its a sick world we live in....

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#489 2007-10-25 21:46:22

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Sigi, one more comment. Outline does not count as a secondary color. White doesn't... at all. You can count any color + black. No white, and... it doesn't matter what the outline is, you count it as a separate color if it is not white. Do not change the outlines of ANY field on the form. They are dimmed precisely to avoid distraction.

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#490 2007-10-25 22:04:37

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Every submission are awesome! big_smile

I vote for those two:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 41#p291441
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 82#p292282

Specially the tango version.
Good job. wink

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#491 2007-10-25 22:07:38

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

foxbunny wrote:

I've just finished downloading ALL the logos from distrowatch.com

atomix.png

Hmm. Look what I've found.
I also saw tons of tuxes. Har har.

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#492 2007-10-25 22:19:45

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

dum8d0g: Nice. Gets the simplicity across well. I completely agree with foxbunny about it: if mine doesn't win - and at the rate I'm working on it, it'll be lucky to be entered officially - that's the one I could live with.

No offence meant to fb and Thayer, who've done some amazing stuff. smile


0 Ok, 0:1

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#493 2007-10-25 22:44:16

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

Something I am working on:
archxt7.th.png

I am to tired to continue on it for now (need some sleep), just wanted to show a preview of it. smile

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#494 2007-10-26 01:22:03

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

I don't like the current one (or its derivatives) because it looks too much like a Star Trek insignia.  I hope we don't end up with something that looks like a Nike "swoosh", either.

This one is in my top ten so far

This one is good too, if we take off that branch shooting off from top center to top right.  Something like... uh... this:
archlogo-tdphys.png
* all credit goes to tdphys for the concept; I just chopped off the extra bit I thought spoiled the smooth curves and symmetry.  I'm sure somebody else could tidy it up even more.


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#495 2007-10-26 01:27:36

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

So many beautiful concepts...how will just one be chosen? I hope we can have more than one use for each of these wonderful pieces of art. I think the website could use a bit of Arch "flair", ie sigi's pacman-arch logos on the pacman wiki page, perhaps thayer's on the forum header, foxbunny's on the main page...and the like. I say "more art". tongue

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#496 2007-10-26 01:47:36

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

thayer.w wrote:

From a marketing perspective, the idea of having multiple logos for each product or release is a bad idea.  Imagery is an incredibly powerful aspect of marketing and it's important to maintain a consistent identity that people can recognize at a glance.

I am inclined to agree, however, I think I actually disagree for one simple reason: Harley-Davidson. They have had numerous badges and logos over the years, all of which are immediately recognizable. There are retro badges, modern badges, all text logos, different fonts, etc.
I think Arch has room for diversity. smile
hd7.gif  hd6.jpg hd5.jpg hd4.jpg hd2.jpg hd3.jpg hd1.jpg

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#497 2007-10-26 03:14:37

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I agree, Harley Davidson has definitely deviated from the well-established rule of brand recognition... but then, Harley is an institution in itself.  The name alone is recognizable the world over, perhaps nearly as much as Coke. Arch doesn't have that luxury, I'm afraid.


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#498 2007-10-26 03:18:13

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

thayer.w wrote:

I agree, Harley Davidson has definitely deviated from the well-established rule of brand recognition... but then, Harley is an institution in itself.  The name alone is recognizable the world over, perhaps nearly as much as Coke. Arch doesn't have that luxury, I'm afraid.

Good point.
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#499 2007-10-26 07:26:43

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

I remember seeing a poll in the Ubuntu forums, something along the line of "What distro if not Ubuntu", and Arch was rated first (!!). So, the word gets around and I see Arch Linux featured in more than a few polls, sometimes among 10 choices and less. And yet, the name alone is NOT equal to recognizability. Arch Linux name is fairly recognizable, but if you showed the current logo (or any of the new versions) to people who've only heard about Arch, you'd get no response. For complete recognizability, you need the whole package. Can you imagine the word 'coke' without instantly seeing the white calligraphic lettering, and the red, and maybe an ice cube? Or IBM without those blue stripes? Or Ubuntu without those circles? Most of us can't.

Whatever graphical identity we choose, it has to be consistently enforced in order for it to gain recognizability. Moreover, the community members usually are the main outlet for advertising when it comes to community backed distros such as Arch.

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#500 2007-10-26 07:29:30

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Re: Arch Linux logo concept

louipc wrote:
foxbunny wrote:

I've just finished downloading ALL the logos from distrowatch.com

http://foxbunny.team88.org/arch/linuxlogos/atomix.png

Hmm. Look what I've found.
I also saw tons of tuxes. Har har.

That's a discontinued Serbian distro. The team fell apart because the leader took all the money and fled. Shameful. Anyway, it won't affect Thayer's logo in any way.

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