Arch on Eee PC

slyson · 2008-03-23 22:50:09

I removed the restore partition and created one big partition on my 4gb eee pc disk. How much physical space of the 4gb can I use? Twice now /etc/profile was deleted for no apparent reason, so I'm wondering if my disk is getting full and randomly deleting files. I've only used just over 2gb.

ighea · 2008-03-23 23:04:18

slyson wrote:

I removed the restore partition and created one big partition on my 4gb eee pc disk. How much physical space of the 4gb can I use? Twice now /etc/profile was deleted for no apparent reason, so I'm wondering if my disk is getting full and randomly deleting files. I've only used just over 2gb.

You should be able to fill the whole space without any difficulties. Are you installing packages from out side standard repositories?

toofishes · 2008-03-23 23:54:52

ighea wrote:

toofishes: Might it be possible to have vesa frame buffer support included in to your kernel? There's great demand for nice boot splash! We can't lose to Asus in this matter.
Also your hda-intel tweak works fine.
EDIT: How does this madwifi snapshot differ from the current one used with kernel eee ? http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/ma … 007.tar.gz I came across it in here: http://justingill.com/blog/2008/03/16/t … buntu-804/

2.6.24.4 looks like it is right around the corner. I plan on adding most requests when this comes out, so please have patience- sorry that I haven't had the time to update it as frequently as I originally was, but it has also reached a really good state for me, usability wise, so not as much need to tweak it anymore. This will also be compiled with GCC 4.3.0; the previous releases were GCC 4.2.3.

Device mapper support for crypto will be included for whoever requested it- sorry for the long wait.

Framebuffer-wise, what do I want to do here? There is FB_INTEL, which would provide native support for the graphics chipset in the Eee.There is also FB_VESA, which I think we can enable without problems. Thre is also FB_UVESA, which someone requested. I am not very knowledgeable about this framebuffer stuff, so feel free to help me out and let me know what is best. Can I compile all of these in without problems?

Let me know if there is anything else I am forgetting.

EDIT: Oh, and the madwifi snapshot? I grabbed a much more recent snapshot of the madwifi source and applied the patch required for the Eee on that source instead of on the older madwifi snapshot. I figured newer code was in our best interests anyway.

Last edited by toofishes (2008-03-23 23:56:03)

ighea · 2008-03-24 00:01:02

toofishes wrote:

Framebuffer-wise, what do I want to do here? There is FB_INTEL, which would provide native support for the graphics chipset in the Eee.There is also FB_VESA, which I think we can enable without problems. Thre is also FB_UVESA, which someone requested. I am not very knowledgeable about this framebuffer stuff, so feel free to help me out and let me know what is best. Can I compile all of these in without problems?
Let me know if there is anything else I am forgetting.
EDIT: Oh, and the madwifi snapshot? I grabbed a much more recent snapshot of the madwifi source and applied the patch required for the Eee on that source instead of on the older madwifi snapshot. I figured newer code was in our best interests anyway.

At least FB_VESA and FB_UVESA would be safe choises, even if you take them both.
There's also more up to date binary patch for eee's madwifi driver snapshots in here: http://madwifi.org/ticket/1679 .

slyson · 2008-03-24 01:08:35

ighea wrote:

slyson wrote:
I removed the restore partition and created one big partition on my 4gb eee pc disk. How much physical space of the 4gb can I use? Twice now /etc/profile was deleted for no apparent reason, so I'm wondering if my disk is getting full and randomly deleting files. I've only used just over 2gb.
You should be able to fill the whole space without any difficulties. Are you installing packages from out side standard repositories?

I probably installed some things from the community repository - can't remember now. Some other people have had similar problems, though: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=45155.

Since I don't want to risk it happening again, I was wondering if there is a way I can backup the entire installation without corruption once I have it the way I want it, e.g., boot an arch iso from usb pen /dev/sdc then run 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb' where sda is the built-in disk and sdb is the backup sd card?

Also, I want to compile a few things with Yaourt, but I don't have time to setup an Arch install on my desktop. I'm worried compiling on the eee pc will generate an excessive amount of writes to the flash drive. Will it?

Finally, after installing standard cpufrequtils, I can't load the modules, even as root.

FATAL: Module acpi_cpufreq not found

Is there any reason I would want cpu scaling other than to save battery life?

Last edited by slyson (2008-03-24 05:37:04)

elbecko · 2008-03-24 06:46:21

slyson wrote:

Since I don't want to risk it happening again, I was wondering if there is a way I can backup the entire installation without corruption once I have it the way I want it, e.g., boot an arch iso from usb pen /dev/sdc then run 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb' where sda is the built-in disk and sdb is the backup sd card?

Regarding backup/restore, following link would be helpful.
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/backup_restore

Personally, I prefer partimage method. It takes less than 30 minutes to backup whole 4G SSD partition (3G is used actually) to SDHC, and 5 minutes to restore it. I'm using PLD Rescue CD booting from SDHC. (http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/)

saten · 2008-03-24 15:12:54

is anyone having problems in compiling last toofishes kernel from git?
i've found that the gcc 4.3 version in core has some problems in kernel compiling :S
i can't get any of the pre built packages on toofishes's site to install. i have this output:

eeepc-linux-0.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz: Unrecognized archive format: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
errore: 'eeepc-linux-0.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz': errore di libarchive

i can't even use tar to extract the content of the file.

saten

faelar · 2008-03-24 15:41:19

You downloaded it from your internet browser ?
Toofishes has problem with his server, try :

wget http://code.toofi...pkg.tar.gz

saten · 2008-03-24 16:20:29

sure i downloaded it with a web browser.. what kind of weird encoding problem might cause such behaviour?

it worked doing as you told me, faelar. thank you!

toofishes · 2008-03-25 02:31:01

2.6.24.4 is now in my repository. Changes can be found here: http://code.toofishes.net/gitweb.cgi?p= … ;a=summary

Let me know if there are any issues.

saten · 2008-03-25 08:31:18

@toofishes: i'm compiling your new release. i had some strange issues with the previous: i had no modules for wireless and ethernet, and when i tried to compile and install dkite's eeemodules i had this error:

ls /lib/modules/2.6.24.3eee/build -alh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 55 2008-03-03 04:09 /lib/modules/2.6.24.3eee/build -> /home/dmcgee/projects/eee/kernel-eee/src/linux-2.6.24.3

by the way, maybe i'm missing something. what am i supposed to install to have:

fast boot
everything recognized
fsb and fan control

ps. it would be nice to include the cdc_acm driver, which someone like me might use for charging and connecting in umts with a mobile phone. (i'm using bluetooth now)

saten

zodmaner · 2008-03-25 10:57:31

saten wrote:

@toofishes: i'm compiling your new release.

Why are you compiling the kernel yourself when you could just install them using toofishes's repository: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … nstruction?

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ighea · 2008-03-25 11:37:22

toofishes: Could we also get FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE enabled, please! Dark vtys are scary.

I'm currently using splashy and vesafb for nice bootsplash, but I'd like to hear what kind of setups you guys are running. Also, I didn't get uvesafb(even with v86d in initrd hook) or intelfb to work at all... so if you somehow did I'd like to hear: HOW! ;D

saten · 2008-03-25 11:42:52

zodmaner wrote:

saten wrote:
@toofishes: i'm compiling your new release.
Why are you compiling the kernel yourself when you could just install them using toofishes's repository: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … nstruction?

just to see if it works with gcc 4.3

by the way now i have to use the default kernel because with toofishes one i miss support for ethernet, wireless and so on. also i miss support for mounting reiser partitions :S

zodmaner · 2008-03-25 11:46:16

saten wrote:

just to see if it works with gcc 4.3

Oh, I see.
EDIT: It's seems that the new toofishes's kernel is already compiled using gcc 4.3: http://code.toofishes.net/gitweb.cgi?p= … 2fe31e9a8c

saten wrote:

by the way now i have to use the default kernel because with toofishes one i miss support for ethernet, wireless and so on. also i miss support for mounting reiser partitions :S

Huh? Missing support for reiser is understandable, but no ethernet and wireless? The 'stock' toofishes's kernerl should have both ethernet and wireless driver compiled directly into the kernel, so you should have both ethernet and wireless working.

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ighea · 2008-03-25 11:48:14

zodmaner wrote:

Huh? Missing support for reiser is understandable, but no ethernet and wireless? The 'stock' toofishes's kernerl should have both ethernet and wireless driver compiled directly into the kernel, so you should have both ethernet and wireless working.

Well the wireless drivers are in magwifi-ng-eee package, but anyway.

zodmaner · 2008-03-25 11:52:41

ighea wrote:

Well the wireless drivers are in magwifi-ng-eee package, but anyway.

Argh! How embarrassing (and to think that I wrote that section on the wiki myself ). You're right ighea. The wireless kernel is in magwifi-ng-eee package.

saten: Install the package and your wireless will works with toofishes's kernel.

...and don't forget to read the wiki:http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _toofishes

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saten · 2008-03-25 12:06:03

update

now wireless is working, but there's still no ethernet and no hotkeys. the eeepc-linux package installs but doesn't work, i think because it creates another folder in /lib/modules instead of adding itself to the kernel-eee one.

regarding the install wiki, i think it's not completely clear reading it i do not understand how to have hotkeys working while not using dkite's acpid-eee which should be not compatible with toofishes madwifi-ng.

am i wrong?

thanks a lot for helping anyway! i have to say here that the arch default kernel is booting just in 5-6 seconds more than toofishes one, so maybe it's okay to stay on that (for the various modules-drivers missing)

saten

zodmaner · 2008-03-25 12:16:48

For hotkeys to work, you need either dkite's acpid-eee package or ighea's acpid-eee package. Don't worry, both of these can be use with toofishes kernel.

Last edited by zodmaner (2008-03-25 12:19:47)

toofishes · 2008-03-25 12:28:42

saten wrote:

update
now wireless is working, but there's still no ethernet and no hotkeys. the eeepc-linux package installs but doesn't work, i think because it creates another folder in /lib/modules instead of adding itself to the kernel-eee one.
regarding the install wiki, i think it's not completely clear reading it i do not understand how to have hotkeys working while not using dkite's acpid-eee which should be not compatible with toofishes madwifi-ng.
am i wrong?
thanks a lot for helping anyway! i have to say here that the arch default kernel is booting just in 5-6 seconds more than toofishes one, so maybe it's okay to stay on that (for the various modules-drivers missing)
saten

I don't know how you've managed to break a built-in kernel ethernet driver, but well done. I think you are completely missing the benefits of the custom kernel- you are probably using an unnecessary initrd too.

The eeepc-linux package is broken, I see that now. I'll try to release a fixed version sometime soon, oops. I don't actually use this module, I find it a bit too scary for my tastes.

More framebuffer feedback would be appreciated, but keep in mind I don't use this junk at all, so I'm really not that invested in fixing it. If someone else comes up with a kernelconfig that works in that department, that would be the best way.

saten · 2008-03-25 14:07:20

toofishes wrote:

saten wrote:
update
now wireless is working, but there's still no ethernet and no hotkeys. the eeepc-linux package installs but doesn't work, i think because it creates another folder in /lib/modules instead of adding itself to the kernel-eee one.
regarding the install wiki, i think it's not completely clear reading it i do not understand how to have hotkeys working while not using dkite's acpid-eee which should be not compatible with toofishes madwifi-ng.
am i wrong?
thanks a lot for helping anyway! i have to say here that the arch default kernel is booting just in 5-6 seconds more than toofishes one, so maybe it's okay to stay on that (for the various modules-drivers missing)
saten
I don't know how you've managed to break a built-in kernel ethernet driver, but well done. I think you are completely missing the benefits of the custom kernel- you are probably using an unnecessary initrd too.
The eeepc-linux package is broken, I see that now. I'll try to release a fixed version sometime soon, oops. I don't actually use this module, I find it a bit too scary for my tastes.
More framebuffer feedback would be appreciated, but keep in mind I don't use this junk at all, so I'm really not that invested in fixing it. If someone else comes up with a kernelconfig that works in that department, that would be the best way.

i've installed the eeepc-linux package you just update and it works fine.

regarding the ethernet driver, it's so weird... take a look:

[root@saten scripts]# updatedb
[root@saten scripts]# slocate atl2
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/drivers/net/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/net/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/net/atl2.ko
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/bind
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/module
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/new_id
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/uevent
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/unbind
/sys/module/atl2
/sys/module/atl2/drivers
/sys/module/atl2/parameters
/sys/module/atl2/drivers/pci:atl2
/sys/module/atl2/parameters/copybreak
[root@saten scripts]#

no atl2 is found in your kernel installation

i don't know how to do any test on the fbdev since i prefer using the quiet option in grub's menu.lst, and so the boot process is so lean and fast that i don't see the need for a bootsplash.

another thing.. i've installed ighea's acpid-eee and it works, but i thought you added that to your repo.. and that doesn't seem to work. i don't have an asus_acpi module anymore, is that correct?

saten

toofishes · 2008-03-25 17:14:15

saten wrote:

regarding the ethernet driver, it's so weird... take a look:
[root@saten scripts]# updatedb
[root@saten scripts]# slocate atl2
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/drivers/net/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/net/atl2.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/net/atl2.ko
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/bind
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/module
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/new_id
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/uevent
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/atl2/unbind
/sys/module/atl2
/sys/module/atl2/drivers
/sys/module/atl2/parameters
/sys/module/atl2/drivers/pci:atl2
/sys/module/atl2/parameters/copybreak
[root@saten scripts]#
no atl2 is found in your kernel installation
i don't know how to do any test on the fbdev since i prefer using the quiet option in grub's menu.lst, and so the boot process is so lean and fast that i don't see the need for a bootsplash.
another thing.. i've installed ighea's acpid-eee and it works, but i thought you added that to your repo.. and that doesn't seem to work. i don't have an asus_acpi module anymore, is that correct?
saten

A driver is NOT always a module, how many times does this need to be said?

asus_acpi is compiled INTO THE KERNEL. It is NOT a module. It can still work that way.
atl2 is compiled INTO THE KERNEL. It is NOT a module. It can still work that way. Look above! It found the driver in sys, so it is obviously present!

PLEASE, before you post again, realize that driver != module. Have a nice day.

saten · 2008-03-25 17:48:39

mmm ok, i got it.

but still i don't understand why i can't see the ethernet interface

having a nice day, how's that possible?

zodmaner · 2008-03-25 18:07:30

saten, are you absolutely sure you follows the instruction on the wiki on how to install toofishes's kernel and all the necessary packages? If you install kernel-eee package and all the necessary packages from toofishes's repository, then you shouldn't have any problem with ethernet or other devices for that matter.

From what you describe, it seems like you compile the kernel yourself. Which is the most likely causes of your problem.

Try remove kernel-eee package (and all the dependencies of it) and reinstall them all again. This time using toofishes's repository and please made sure that you follows the instructions here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _toofishes

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saten · 2008-03-25 18:17:58

zodmaner wrote:

saten, are you absolutely sure you follows the instruction on the wiki on how to install toofishes's kernel and all the necessary packages? If you install kernel-eee package and all the necessary packages from toofishes's repository, then you shouldn't have any problem with ethernet or other devices for that matter.
From what you describe, it seems like you compile the kernel yourself. Which is the most likely causes of your problem.
Try remove kernel-eee package (and all the dependencies of it) and reinstall them all again. This time using toofishes's repository and please made sure that you follows the instructions here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _toofishes

I compiled it, but the one i've installed is from the eee repo. i've tried removing everything but the default arch kernel and reinstalling, but at the time it doesn't seem to help. by the way, as long as i am the only one who's having this problem (and i do not need the ethernet device most of the time), this can remain a curiosity.

saten

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