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skottish

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

After the betas, they go to Release Candidates..

Yeah! What the hell is skottish thinking?!?!?!?!

Don-DiZzLe

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Registered: 2007-03-31

Posts: 233

Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

Does firefox work with flashplugin, I have flashplugin installed, but it doesnt work in firefox3b4pre nightly.

lenni

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Registered: 2007-09-21

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

I usually install the Flash plugin by clicking on the jigsaw icon in Firefox itself. I'm always surprised how well that works. I am using the Arch build though and not the nightly one from Mozilla, which might have disabled that.

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SpookyET

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Registered: 2008-01-27

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

Holy crap, firefox 3 is fast! With a twist. :-)

Getting the PGO to build was quite annoying.

Firefox 3 Beta 3 on the left.
Firefox 3 Beta 4 with Profile Guided Optimisations on the right: http://www.paste2.org/p/15666
I'll let you judge.

Run your own benchmark: http://webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html
Try: http://rapidshare.de/files/38806538/fir … ar.gz.html
Or, build it from AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15184

I make the best Firefox package available for Arch Linux.
If only the official will take some of my changes.

PS: My build is very close to the official Mozilla build in terms of functionality, but it does not statically link, which is useful if you have cairo with LCD patches. On the other hand, it's pretty far from the Arch build in AUR, which misses a lot of functionality and is not PGO optimised.

MillTek

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

SpookyET,

I tried your package from AUR. All the dependencies are present on the machine.  It halts after a while and just sits there. Then I hit Ctrl-C and hare is the result;

The 'Traceback' appears after I hit Ctrl-C.  Any ideas??

make[1]: Leaving directory `/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj'
OBJDIR=/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj python /firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py
Application pid: 2215
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /index.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /quit.js HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] code 404, message File not found
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py", line 39, in <module>
    os.path.join(SCRIPT_DIR, automation.DEFAULT_APP), PROFILE_DIRECTORY)
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 208, in runApp
    status = proc.wait()
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 101, in wait
    line = out.readline().rstrip()
KeyboardInterrupt
make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1

==> ERROR: Aborted by user! Exiting...

SpookyET

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

The Traceback tells me that you killed it

KeyboardInterrupt
make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1

I did not babysit it. When I saw in conky that it wasn't using 100%CPU, I knew it was done. Try the binary build if you are on i686. I hope it uploaded correctly.

MD5: a1aee5b926067c6a724f0a524d3da8c5  firefox-spookyet-3.0b4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
SHA1: 1d46235263818ef5f8af929c640146abbaecb5ad  firefox-spookyet-3.0b4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

MillTek

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

SpookyET,
I had re-started the original makepkg before I got your reply. It finished and seems ok. I tried the speed utility you linked to and am getting around a 2x performance increase over firefox3, beta 3 with systemcairo from the AUR. 

Thanks for the work!

SpookyET

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

SpookyET,
I had re-started the original makepkg before I got your reply. It finished and seems ok. I tried the speed utility you linked to and am getting around a 2x performance increase over firefox3, beta 3 with systemcairo from the AUR. 

Thanks for the work!

You're welcome.

Last edited by SpookyET (2008-03-12 18:03:47)

skottish

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

SpookyET,

I tried your package from AUR. All the dependencies are present on the machine.  It halts after a while and just sits there. Then I hit Ctrl-C and hare is the result;

The 'Traceback' appears after I hit Ctrl-C.  Any ideas??

make[1]: Leaving directory `/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj'
OBJDIR=/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj python /firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py
Application pid: 2215
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /index.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /quit.js HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] code 404, message File not found
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py", line 39, in <module>
    os.path.join(SCRIPT_DIR, automation.DEFAULT_APP), PROFILE_DIRECTORY)
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 208, in runApp
    status = proc.wait()
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 101, in wait
    line = out.readline().rstrip()
KeyboardInterrupt
make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1

==> ERROR: Aborted by user! Exiting...

I ran into the same error. I did notice for a brief second that that a window popped up and said "just going to quit for a time out" or something just like that. Why is this throwing up windows? I'm fairly certain that code shouldn't be executing scripts at this level while being built.

Last edited by skottish (2008-03-13 03:27:54)

SpookyET

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Registered: 2008-01-27

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

SpookyET,

I tried your package from AUR. All the dependencies are present on the machine.  It halts after a while and just sits there. Then I hit Ctrl-C and hare is the result;

The 'Traceback' appears after I hit Ctrl-C.  Any ideas??

make[1]: Leaving directory `/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj'
OBJDIR=/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj python /firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py
Application pid: 2215
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /index.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /quit.js HTTP/1.1" 200 -
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] code 404, message File not found
localhost.localdomain - - [12/Mar/2008 10:24:26] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/_profile/pgo/profileserver.py", line 39, in <module>
    os.path.join(SCRIPT_DIR, automation.DEFAULT_APP), PROFILE_DIRECTORY)
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 208, in runApp
    status = proc.wait()
  File "/firefox3-0b4-cairo/src/mozilla/ff-opt-obj/build/pgo/automation.py", line 101, in wait
    line = out.readline().rstrip()
KeyboardInterrupt
make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1

==> ERROR: Aborted by user! Exiting...

I ran into the same error. I did notice for a brief second that that a window popped up and said "just going to quit for a time out" or something just like that. Why is this throwing up windows? I'm fairly certain that code shouldn't be executing scripts at this level while being built.

PROFILE GUIDED OPTIMISATIONS

How does it work?

It builds Firefox. Then it runs with a profiler with a profile designed to automate a bunch of tasks that a user would do. The profiler generates statistics and data about the code paths used while the profiler ran.

Then Firefox is built for a second time optimising those code paths. That is how it is able to achiever the speed showed in that benchmark.

It may conflict if you are running Firefox while that profiler is running. Though, it should not. I have not checked, but it would be smart to execute 'firefox -no-remote.' One of the PGO scripts I saw did that.

My advice to you is not to run Firefox while building it. Or, just get the binary from rapidshare.

Unfortunately, I am not the best person to answer questions about the PGO build process.
Try the MozillaZine forums or #firefox on irc.mozilla.org.

One thing I've done is to build it in tty1, not under X so I won't close GNOME-TERMINAL by mistake. I don't think the profiler requires Xorg.

Last edited by SpookyET (2008-03-13 03:46:08)

skottish

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

Sure enough, I was running Firefox at that time. Thanks for the explanation. (minor bump) Oh yeah, and this too:

ffmpeg -threads 4 -i $i -deinterlace -croptop 40 -cropbottom 40 -cropleft 4 -cropright 12 -acodec libfaac -ab 192k -ar 48000 -vcodec libx264 -b 4000k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8 -flags2 +brdo+dct8x8+wpred+bpyramid+mixed_refs -me umh -subq 7 -trellis 1 -refs 6 -bf 16 -directpred 3 -b_strategy 1 -bidir_refine 1 -coder 1 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 4000k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 10 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -aspect 16:9 ./test/$out.mp4

Last edited by skottish (2008-03-13 04:07:18)

SpookyET

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

Sure enough, I was running Firefox at that time. Thanks for the explanation. (minor bump) Oh yeah, and this too:

ffmpeg -threads 4 -i $i -deinterlace -croptop 40 -cropbottom 40 -cropleft 4 -cropright 12 -acodec libfaac -ab 192k -ar 48000 -vcodec libx264 -b 4000k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8 -flags2 +brdo+dct8x8+wpred+bpyramid+mixed_refs -me umh -subq 7 -trellis 1 -refs 6 -bf 16 -directpred 3 -b_strategy 1 -bidir_refine 1 -coder 1 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 4000k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 10 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -aspect 16:9 ./test/$out.mp4

It might be profiling video embedding. I do not know.

mplayer tends to not die when you kill firefox leaving zombie processes.

Make SURE YOU DELETE src and pkg directories before you type makepkg again.

MillTek

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

Interesting, I was running Firefox at the time as well.

hokasch

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Registered: 2007-09-23

Posts: 1,461

Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

btw: most addons not compatible with f3b4 work well, you just have to open the xpi and bumb "maxversion" in install.rdf. so far worked for me with this addons:
-oldbar
-cs lite
-gtranslate
-stylish
-R.I.P

dolby

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Registered: 2006-08-08

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

firefox 3 is useable but still buggy here. ctrl+foo keybinds dont always work, images are sometimes not shown and some websites load as plain html at first and then normally in a couple of seconds

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skottish

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

btw: most addons not compatible with f3b4 work well, you just have to open the xpi and bumb "maxversion" in install.rdf. so far worked for me with this addons:
-oldbar
-cs lite
-gtranslate
-stylish
-R.I.P

You can try Nightly Tester Tools. It works well with most of the extensions that I've tried:

http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly

gothmog.todi

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Registered: 2007-07-18

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

did anybody else notice his forward/backward buttons not working anymore with b4?

MillTek

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

did anybody else notice his forward/backward buttons not working anymore with b4?

Work fine for me.

MillTek

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

On another tangent. SpookyET, how exactly does this profile compiling work?  IS there a way we can tune it to our own personal needs or anything we can do to help it?

SpookyET

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

On another tangent. SpookyET, how exactly does this profile compiling work?  IS there a way we can tune it to our own personal needs or anything we can do to help it?

Ask in #mozilla on irc.mozilla.org. I suspect, yes.

varl

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Registered: 2007-06-07

Posts: 51

Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

did anybody else notice his forward/backward buttons not working anymore with b4?

I assume you mean back/forward on the mouse.

Mine don't work either.

jase

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Registered: 2008-01-20

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

To get mouse buttons to work goto about:config and change

mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action = 2
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.numlines = -1
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.sysnumlines = false

See bug 420294

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varl

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

To get mouse buttons to work goto about:config and change

mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action = 2
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.numlines = -1
mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.sysnumlines = false

See bug 420294

Thank you, that worked perfectly.

Alphalutra1

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Registered: 2006-09-16

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

So I installed firefox3, and removed firefox2 and it came up and everything is HUGE!  The webpage just seems to be zoomed into.  So I tried to delete my ~/.mozilla, but they are still huge.  I was wondering if anyone has seen this problem and has a solution to it?

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

SpookyET

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Re: [renamed] Holy Crap Firefox3b3 is fast! [b4 even faster]

So I installed firefox3, and removed firefox2 and it came up and everything is HUGE!  The webpage just seems to be zoomed into.  So I tried to delete my ~/.mozilla, but they are still huge.  I was wondering if anyone has seen this problem and has a solution to it?

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

Specify whose package you are using.