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Belitsky.A

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From: Russia, Zelenograd

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

2markc: can you update extragear-multimedia package?

Last edited by Belitsky.A (2008-05-27 17:19:53)

lee_connell

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Where is the search bar? i.e: firefox has the search bar where you can search google etc... I don't see this anymore in konqueror.  Only thing close to it is web shortcuts.

Belitsky.A

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From: Russia, Zelenograd

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Search bar for konqueror is placed in extragear-base.

# pacman -S extragear-base

markc

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From: Gold Coast, Australia

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@Belitsky.A: the 20080528 build mostly failed and partly because of the lack of phonon which seems to have moved from kdelibs to kdesupport. I re-enabled phonon in qt-copy and more packages built including extragear-multimedia. I also disabled kleo (gpg stuff) in kdepim and it built (manually). I'll try a fresh 20080528 build and hope it's better... so the 20080528 packages already in the repo will be updated in another 7 hours, I hope.

Belitsky.A

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Thanks, amarok and juk works again.

Janax

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@markc:  Have you looked at the split-PKGBUILD scripts that kdemod uses (see here for a recent discussion on it)?  I actually planned to do this myself so that I could contribute additional digikam-svn packages (the packages that pressh contributed worked just great for me - at least until yesterday - but I wanted to do the same thing and not have a separate copy of the source tree for each package), but really don't have any time to look at it .  Anyway, I think it might be a solution that (a) already is done and (b) works.  If you have already looked at it, then just kindly ignore my post  here ...

Thanks once again for making these packages!

lee_connell

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

after the latest 20080528 update i can't login to KDE because phonon_xine complains about library versions and just pops hundreds of knotify messages.  How can i set the phonon backend to none from the console?

capthookb

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Registered: 2007-12-10

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

i have the same issue lee_conneli with the latest update, but there are more issues there.
I removed /usr/bin/knotify4 in order not to have these errors. But plasma does not work at all. There is no background, bar, plasmoids. nothing. Log (Ctrl+Alt+F1) complains many times about libraries not compatible with version >= something.

Also, i noticed a big performance gain. I don't know if it is because plasma is not running. Finally you can tell which window is in the foreground, from the additional lines the decoration has.

capthookb

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

It seemed that qt-copy, kde-support, kde-libs, kde-libs-dev, kde-libs-doc packages were corrupted. So i did another pacman -Syf kde-svn-all and kde4 is back to working state. Unfortunately the performance gain i mentioned is missing again.

Belitsky.A

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From: Russia, Zelenograd

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

2capthookb: After removing kdelibs try 'pacman -Sc' and then 'pacman -S kdelibs'. My system works with 20080528 normally.

Last edited by Belitsky.A (2008-05-28 15:44:10)

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

For 20080529, extragear-plasma is now called kdeplasmoids so a sudo pacman -Rd extragear-plasma ; sudo pacman -Sy kdeplasmoids will be needed. The -Rd is because the current playground-plasma still depends on extragear-plasma and won't be fixed till 20080530. This renamed package for x86_64 should be up in an hour or so after this post, kdeplasmoids for i686 will have to wait another 12 hours or so but the rest of the i686 packages should be ready in about 3 hours from now. 20080528 was delayed because my ADSL link died and I ended up going to bed and building the next day.

@Janax: thanks for the link. I'm not convinced split packages are worth the mods needed to build them and I don't like relying on a patched version of makepkg that soon gets out of date. A side point is that I have stuck fairly close to the KDE svn repo layout convention for these packages. The above change is a case in point, extragear/plasma became KDE/kdeplasmoids about 48 hours ago and now this package set reflects that move. I kind of like this approach. Also, I actually use a very simple method to split a few packages anyway, at least for *-dev and *-doc variations of qt-copy and kdelibs, that does not require any patches at all and I will gradually -dev/-doc-ify all or most packages eventually. The -doc variety can become an "any" arch which means they only need to built and uploaded once for both i686 and x86_64.

The biggest issue is that I build this package set in a way that is not compatible with either the standard extra/kde(3) packages or KDEmod(3|4). This doesn't bother me because I don't use them but I fully understand they would be more useful to more folks if they were built for /opt, and cause less pain for those who might simply try to install them over the top of extra/kde without realizing there will be some problems (I guess, I've never tried). The next issue is that this package set can't easily be rebuilt without my special build script that I am endlessly rewriting for release so others can simply build their own repo anyway they want. ATM I'm just a bit burnt out thinking about it and have stopped until I have my own Git repo to build these packages against because how they get built will be fully dependent on using a Git repo, so I need that Git repo to finish the "mpkg" build script. Besides, the appweb + git + cgit tools I use on a remote server will be included in the package set so anyone else can play along.

@lee_connell & @capthookb: I had an interrupted build/upload and I'm confused as to where phonon is supposed to reside (it's in qt-copy, kdelibs and playground) so I allow libphonon to build in qt-copy and kdelibs and let the results sort themselves out. I will join the kde-multimedia mailing-list and try and sort it out when we get nearer to the final 4.1 release.

@Belitsky.A: did you get a chance to try my l10n-kde4-ru package at all? The issue was that I made it an "any" arch and built it on x86_64 and I think you have an i686 machine so if it doesn't blow up for you (heh) then it's okay to do this in general for other languages.

Last edited by markc (2008-05-28 18:09:37)

Belitsky.A

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From: Russia, Zelenograd

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

2markc: yes, I have istalled l10n-kde4-ru and seems that everything is all right.

markc

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From: Gold Coast, Australia

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@Belitsky.A: great, thanks for that. Not having to build 50 languages twice (and upload) will obviously save a lot of build and upload time. So, it looks like my split package method is going to get a real workout :-)

lee_connell

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Mark,

Im sure I am speaking for everybody, just wanted to say thank you for your efforts in providing these packages for everyone. Your effort is *really* appreciated!

markc

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From: Gold Coast, Australia

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@lee_connell: thanks Lee, glad to know you appreciate the packages.

I updated the language building script above on this page and I think this solves the whole issue of me providing languages... I no longer have to :-)

Anyone can easily build their own language following the guidelines I added to the script. I tried it for ru, de and fr and it looks like it produces the right kind of packages so if anyone tries it out can they please indicate whether it works, or not, so I know to just leave the language issue as diy (do it yourself) and get on with other things.

Update: ktorrent is now removed and replaced by extragear-network which includes ktorrent, so sudo pacman -R ktorrent && sudo pacman -Syf extragear-network. Also, amarok was not being built for x86_64 in extragear-multimedia because I did not have ruby installed so I just rebuilt and re-uploaded that package for 20080529.

@capthookb: just thinking about what you said here, It seemed that qt-copy, kde-support, kde-libs, kde-libs-dev, kde-libs-doc packages were corrupted., it's possible that you started pulling a package update then my upload finished during your download so some of the packages you ended up with were from the previous days batch and some were from the freshly uploaded batch. I'm not sure if this is the case or is even a consideration but I can't test this because I install as I build and do any download testing always after the packages are uploaded. I use "rsync  --delay-updates --delete-after" so the new packages are only swapped in after the update completes, and should happen almost instantly, but that doesn't help if you are in the middle of downloading a larger package and this update swapover suddenly ocurs during your download. Anyway, if anyone notices strange corrupted packages, or even has trouble downloading at all (slow, no apache processes left, etc) then let me know. FWIW my download quotas were about 150Gb for March, about 250Gb for April and May looks around 300Gb so I might be okay for a few more months yet. I have no idea when my hosting provider is going to growl at me though, so far so good :-)

Last edited by markc (2008-05-29 12:41:01)

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Well well, Flash 10 works with Konqueror (4), firefox and firefox3 on x86_64 when following this method...

cd /some/where
wget http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nspluginwrapper-ubuntu/nspluginwrapper-ubuntu.tar.gz
tar xf nspluginwrapper-ubuntu.tar.gz
cd nspluginwrapper-ubuntu
makepkg -csi
wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_051508.tar.gz
tar xf flashplayer10_install_linux_051508.tar.gz
test -d ~/.mozilla/plugins || mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins
mv install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
nspluginwrapper -r $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/* ; nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

maarten

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Registered: 2008-05-14

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I saw there is an up-to-date extragear-multimedia in x86_64. Will there be an update for i686 as well?

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@maarten: not until 20080530, assuming all goes well and it builds on i686, and it should. I only re-did the x86_64 one because amarok was missing altogether. Right now (2.30am here), it looks like everything built succesfully on x86_64, except koffice, and the 20080530 i686 build has only just started. It should follow the x86_64 pattern so I do expect the extragear-multimedia i686 package will be okay. This might be the most alround succesful build yet with only a single package failing. 20080530 should be ready in about 6 hours from now. /me now zzzzz after youtubing too many 2012 videos.

Update: koffice fails at 91% trying to build filters for krita...

/var/abs/local/eth-os/kde/koffice/src/koffice-2.0.0/filters/krita/gmagick/kis_image_magick_converter.cc:1065: warning: unused variable 'matches'                           
make[2]: *** [filters/krita/gmagick/CMakeFiles/kritagmagickexport.dir/kis_image_magick_converter.o] Error 1                                                                 
make[1]: *** [filters/krita/gmagick/CMakeFiles/kritagmagickexport.dir/all] Error 2

Last edited by markc (2008-05-30 04:31:05)

vagskarm

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Registered: 2008-05-08

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

markc i also would like to send you a big thanks for the job you are doing.

Notice that i am only using 4.1 svn at my arch installation and i am a very happy user.

Vagelis

newgargamel

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@lee_connell & @capthookb: I had an interrupted build/upload and I'm confused as to where phonon is supposed to reside (it's in qt-copy, kdelibs and playground) so I allow libphonon to build in qt-copy and kdelibs and let the results sort themselves out. I will join the kde-multimedia mailing-list and try and sort it out when we get nearer to the final 4.1 release.

please have a look at the discussion here: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel& … 619834&w=2

My error was that I didn't notice the -no-phonon in README.qt-copy though, so \
obviously the fact that qt's phonon shouldn't be used for kde is already documented \
(at least for developers).

hope it helps

markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@vagskarm: thanks for the thanks. It's encouraging to know I'm not wasting my time and wrecking havoc with other folks desktops.

@newgargamel: thank you! Just goes to show I didn't rtfm either. If it compiles, qt-copy in 20080531 will be...

./configure -prefix /usr -qt-gif -release -fast -no-exceptions -no-separate-debug-info -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -system-zlib -dbus -webkit -no-phonon -nomake examples -nomake demos

Any suggestions most welcome.

Cool, looks like there is movement on the introduction of an official KDE 4.1. Note that at this stage it will also not co-exist with extra/kde or kdemod...

http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev … 06316.html

Also, here is an RSS feed of source package updates if anyone is interested (useful with akregator)...

http://groups.google.com/group/eth-os/feeds

And a reminder of the l10n-kde4 standalone source package for building any language. If anyone uses it please give a hoy as to whether it works for you...

http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/kde/l10n-kde4/

Last edited by markc (2008-05-30 15:22:19)

maarten

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Thanks for the extragear-multimedia! It's working fine.

tanis

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From: Poland / Waterloo, ON, Canada

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

If anyone is interested in installing KDE4.1 beta 1 next to existing KDE 3.5, I have created packages for it (based on Mark's):
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=49454. Those go into /opt/kde4 so can be safely installed
on "normal" Arch (with or without [testing] repo)

Last edited by tanis (2008-05-30 16:09:43)

superstoned

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Markc: does KDEedu work here, with the molecular editor? I can't get it to compile for myself...

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markc

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@tanis: this is really good news and should suit most folks wanting to use KDE, especially as 4.1 draws near. It takes some heat off me having to think about providing a compromise between /usr and /opt. I'd rather not and now I don't have to :-) Maybe you can work in with the emerging official KDE 4.1 packages that Pierre Schmitz is working on as the 2 package sets are probably closely aligned.

@superstoned: exactly which package within kdeedu? If I recall I think I left out mono(?) as a dependency from something within kdeedu, because it involved a 40Mb download I would not otherwise use, so perhaps that might have something to do with your problem if you are building from my svn packages.

Re qt-copy built with a different set of configure options, I suspect it'll be a little messy and will dump some stuff in /usr that shouldn't be there. Nothing serious, just untidy, so I'll probably post a cleanup script snippet after the the following days update.

Last edited by markc (2008-05-30 17:02:05)