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#126 2008-04-14 11:25:20

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

@zephyr: thanks for the hint. It ended up being included in the extragear-base package (it's the only program in extragear/base/ anyway) because the parent folders CMakeLists.txt is needed for any components to compile properly (without patching)... so I guess this might be a pattern for extragear and playground packages in general (playground-plasma happens to be a parent folder like base/ is for konq-plugins). There was a problem detecting webkitkde because webkitkde.pc is missing from the webkitkde package so I'll have a look at the webkitkde PKGBUILD for tonights run. Oh and thanks for the makedepends=() line. I auto install all packages as they build so I didn't notice the missing makedepends.

Hopefully I'll have the source packages online under Git in another week.

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#127 2008-04-14 18:59:10

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Yes you are correct about the naming and the needed parent dir smile

I saw the missing webkitkde.pc but since it compiled fine and webkitkde is not quite usable right now (for me atleast) I ignored it.

Thanks for the package and I'm glad I could help smile

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#128 2008-04-15 03:55:10

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Uh oh, 20080415 is a bit rough, some of my applets in the panel are all messed up with "Invalid applet description" and there is a plasma meeting on at Tokamak(sp?) so I suspect we are in a for a few days of plasma and applet changes. Of course, it's a manic Monday when svn is most likely to break. If you happen to have a fairly stable setup, and get to see this note, then maybe consider not updating for a few days... well, not unless you want to investigate the breakage smile

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#129 2008-04-15 13:13:44

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Here you can read what and why:

http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=812

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#130 2008-04-16 22:22:27

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

BTW There is an official build script for kde.
http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/


If it ain't broke, broke it then fix it.

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#131 2008-04-17 04:02:53

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@Maki: yes but it's written in perl and doesn't end up with Arch packages to install. My basic strategy is to pull all upstream svn repos into /home/sources (or $SRCDEST from /etc/makepkg.conf) then create tarballs in /home/sources itself so the source=() line in the PKGBUILDs works with a simple source=($pkgname-$pkgver.tar.bz2). Another couple of days and I should have the build script and sources packages uploaded into a Git repo.

@mutlu_inek: thanks for that link, it explained what is going very nicely.

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#132 2008-04-17 17:20:58

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Finally set up something to host the packages at Google Code. Anyone with a Google ID (Gmail etc) is welcome to co-maintain these packages with commit privileges, just ask to be added here or in the Google Group. All commits and wiki page changes also go to the Google Group so I'll tend to monitor that channel more so than this forum from now on. The initial commit is just the package set and I'll now work on the build script and turn it into a package with some instructions on how to use it in conjunction with these source packages.

Code http://eth-os.googlecode.com
Chat http://groups.google.com/group/eth-os

To simply check out the packages, use:

cd /var/abs/local
svn checkout http://eth-os.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ eth-os

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#133 2008-04-19 22:07:22

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

When do you plan to upgrade next time ?
i see that all the packages are for April 18 and plasma is from 14 April and it doesn't work. I'm in no hurry cause i use xfce4-panel instead of plasma panel, but would like to help out with the bug hunt weekend going on.


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#134 2008-04-21 19:13:11

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

if i try to autostart ktorrent ( put ktorrent.desktop in $HOME/.kde/Autostart) i get "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path" error and the whole kde4 desktop crashes.
Anyone care to reproduce it ?


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#135 2008-04-23 05:10:47

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Maki wrote:

if i try to autostart ktorrent ( put ktorrent.desktop in $HOME/.kde/Autostart) i get "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path" error and the whole kde4 desktop crashes.
Anyone care to reproduce it ?

I'll try that tomorrow, I need to sleep now. In the meanwhile, I have a strange problem with kde-svn, in the last few days plasma has became extremely unstable (crashes a lot), the panel behaves strangely (doesn't display it's inner widgets - taskbar, clock, launcher- with the correct size or position, it sometimes also stops displaying the taskbar) and a lot of widgets won't work correctly (that is, some of them will be a gray rectangle with the message "this object could not be created for the following reason: invalid applet descriptor", while other will simply have issues drawing its border or content -for example Notes won't have it's background image-.

Is anyone having any of this problems? sad

thanks a lot!
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#136 2008-04-23 07:09:07

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Any of you guys have bluetooth working with this?  So far I haven't been able to find much about any KDE4.x.x bluetooth support.  By support I mean Solid recognising your bluetooth device and obex browsing in dolphin

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#137 2008-04-23 12:22:24

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

silencer wrote:
Maki wrote:

if i try to autostart ktorrent ( put ktorrent.desktop in $HOME/.kde/Autostart) i get "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path" error and the whole kde4 desktop crashes.
Anyone care to reproduce it ?

I'll try that tomorrow, I need to sleep now. In the meanwhile, I have a strange problem with kde-svn, in the last few days plasma has became extremely unstable (crashes a lot), the panel behaves strangely (doesn't display it's inner widgets - taskbar, clock, launcher- with the correct size or position, it sometimes also stops displaying the taskbar) and a lot of widgets won't work correctly (that is, some of them will be a gray rectangle with the message "this object could not be created for the following reason: invalid applet descriptor", while other will simply have issues drawing its border or content -for example Notes won't have it's background image-.

Is anyone having any of this problems? sad

thanks a lot!
silencer

Yes plasma is unstable now cause of major change with qt4.4.
Read more here, http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=812 .
I would suggest you to install xfce4 and run xfce4-panel in kde, works just fine.


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#138 2008-04-24 00:05:01

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Maki wrote:

if i try to autostart ktorrent ( put ktorrent.desktop in $HOME/.kde/Autostart) i get "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path" error and the whole kde4 desktop crashes.
Anyone care to reproduce it ?

I could do it, I had to load dbus and hal daemons, and start kde with dbus-launch (dbus-launch /usr/bin/startkde).   (the same for kmix to run here). Maybe the dbus-launch step is ambiguous, but I don't know.

Do you know how to make it run without showing the main window (to automatically appear in the system tray)?

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#139 2008-04-24 01:14:56

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Maki wrote:

I would suggest you to install xfce4 and run xfce4-panel in kde, works just fine.

Indeed it does, thanks for the hint. For me it was just a sudo pacman -S xfce4-panel, RMB on the current panel and quit out of it then type xfce4-panel in Konsole. It's actually more like kicker than the current panel (it has autohide!) and the only thing immediately missing is Kmenu, or any application menu launcher, but it has app launch buttons. I'll probably keep using this until the current panel gets autohide.

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#140 2008-04-25 22:31:44

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Don't forget to rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and restart plasma if your desktop or panel gets really messed up. Mine was yesterday, no krunner either so the only way to start anything was to RMB on the desktop and use "Run Command". I think it'll be at least another week before the current plasma changes settle down again.

I also discovered a few days ago that there were the wrong old packages in the [gui] section that would have overridden the [kde] section, if [gui] came before [kde], so now I understand why @Maki was seeing old packages when I wasn't until I updated from another computer. Sorry about that.

Quite a few packages did not even build last night for 20080426 and kdepim bombed out with this error below, which is way over my head to try and fix, so hopefully it'll be working by tomorrow night or RSN. In the mean time it might be necessary to do this to use kmail... cd /usr/lib ; ln -s libgpgme++-pthread.so.1.2.0 libgpgme++-pthread.so.1.1.0.

-- Found Qt-Version 4.4.0-rc1 (using /usr/bin/qmake)
-- Found X11: /usr/lib/libX11.so
CMake Error: Could not compile simple test program:
 #include <QtCore/QtGlobal>
 int main()
 {
 #ifdef QT_VISIBILITY_AVAILABLE
 return 0;
 #else
 return 1;
 #endif
 }

Update: nope, kdepim and kdenetwork both give this same error above. I haven't got a response about this on IRC in #kde-devel yet. I did fix exiv2 and added a gcc43.patch so it builds now (after a month of neglect) and I'll add a routine to auto update the source packages every night as well.

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#141 2008-04-26 16:06:34

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Shouldn't the dependency of kde-utils on tpctl be removed ?
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 21#p358821

BTW, Great packages! Thanks a lot !

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#142 2008-04-27 06:46:56

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

mbahamonde wrote:

Shouldn't the dependency of kde-utils on tpctl be removed ?

Thanks for the hint, removed it for tonights build so kdeutils should be tpctl-less for 20080428. Hopefully no one is running a Thinkpad laptop and needs it! Glad you find these packages useful.

Update: I don't actually use Koffice so I didn't notice that it hadn't built for quite a few weeks so I did a manual build and found that Krita needed a lib called gmm which does not seem to be a standard Arch package so it's now included in [dev]. It's probably only required to build Krita so it may not need to be installed as a runtime dependency. Also, webkitkde has been removed as a standalone package and is now included within a new playground-libs package. Be prepared for a pacman -Syuf forced update because files that were in webkitkde are now in playground-libs so an update or install will complain about overwriting some files. Perhaps remove webkitkde first. I also manually rebuilt the exiv2 package, and kdepim and kdenetwork which have both failed for the past few days. So 20080428 should be more complete than the last week. Plasma is still very much a work in progress... at least another week before it's back to where it was before the recent Qt4.4 / WoC / API changes.

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#143 2008-04-28 02:06:02

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Today's plasma is in such a bad state hmm . Anyone has idea how to run the xfce4 background & desktop icons manager?

Last edited by Maki (2008-04-28 02:15:51)


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#144 2008-04-28 04:54:28

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@Maki: wow, you are right. I hadn't restarted my desktop until I saw your message and when I did nothing seemed to restart... no alt-F2 krunner either. I did a pacman -S xfce4 (~10Mb all up) and that installed that group of files (easy to remove the whole group later) and added exec /usr/bin/startxfce4 to my ~/.xinitrc file, commented out startkde, and used startx to get a desktop. The xfce4 menu searched for applications so most, if not all, my KDE4 apps are ready to use from that menu. Xfce4 is certainly light and fast and it will do until plasma is usable again.

Actually, thinking about these KDE4 SVN packages conflicting with the regular KDE Arch packages which makes it awkward to install them side by side, I think I prefer the idea of using Xfce4 anyway, so that the KDE4 system is not "polluted" with legacy KDE3 packages once the emergency Xfce4 desktop is no longer needed. So Maki, thanks for the Xfce4 suggestion... it's a lifesaver atm. I tried using firefox as the windowless desktop for 1/2 hour but it was annoying enough to want to install something else and Xfce4 is just right for the occasion.

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#145 2008-04-28 05:29:05

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I went back to kdemod for the time being. Looking forward to going back to KDE4 in a few days. Thanks again!

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#146 2008-04-28 14:08:24

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@markc, i asked on #kde and they said that no major change in plasma happened today, could you check if your build script grabed the correct revision ?


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#147 2008-04-28 23:47:05

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Maki wrote:

@markc, i asked on #kde and they said that no major change in plasma happened today, could you check if your build script grabed the correct revision ?

Good point, not impossible something went wrong with the build. Looking at 20080429, all the source packages were created just after midnight (good) from the latest HEAD of trunk (no revision used) and most of them actually got built this time. It's possible I have some dependencies out of whack. Plasma seems to be mostly working for me but mine does not remember it's settings and starts up with a width of 45px and a height of 45px, otherwise usable.

DONE cli/git                                  20080429 00:18:18   10   1
DONE dev/exiv2                                20080429 01:59:52   10   1
DONE dev/gmm                                  20080429 01:59:59   10   1
DONE dev/graphicsmagick                       20080429 02:00:35   10   1
DONE gui/arxin                                20080429 01:59:10   10   1
DONE gui/firefox3                             20080429 01:59:28   10   1
DONE gui/firefox3                             20080429 01:59:28   10   1
DONE gui/gtk-qt-engine                        20080429 01:59:22   10   1
DONE gui/qgit                                 20080429 01:59:17   10   1
DONE gui/shaman                               20080429 01:58:57   10   1
DONE gui/sqlitebrowser                        20080429 01:58:48   10   1
DONE kde/amarok2                              20080429 01:15:35   10   1
DONE kde/extragear-base                       20080429 01:49:19   10   1
DONE kde/hotstuff                             20080429 00:56:31   10   1
DONE kde/k3b                                  20080429 00:55:11   10   1
DONE kde/kdeaccessibility                     20080429 01:36:20   10   1
DONE kde/kdeadmin                             20080429 01:31:39   10   1
DONE kde/kdeartwork                           20080429 00:57:09   10   1
DONE kde/kdebase                              20080429 01:29:33   10   1
DONE kde/kdebindings                          20080429 01:45:32   10   1
DONE kde/kdeedu                               20080429 01:48:53   10   1
DONE kde/kdegames                             20080429 00:59:01   10   1
DONE kde/kdegraphics                          20080429 01:31:02   10   1
DONE kde/kdelibs                              20080429 00:52:48   80   1
DONE kde/kdemultimedia                        20080429 01:34:52   10   1
DONE kde/kdenetwork                           20080429 01:19:46   10   1
DONE kde/kdepim                               20080429 01:10:19   10   1
DONE kde/kdepimlibs                           20080429 00:54:02   60   1
DONE kde/kdesdk                               20080429 01:41:48   10   1
DONE kde/kdesupport                           20080429 00:46:50   90   1
DONE kde/kdetoys                              20080429 01:31:52   10   1
DONE kde/kdeutils                             20080429 00:56:30   10   1
DONE kde/kdevelop                             20080429 01:32:48   10   1
DONE kde/kdevplatform                         20080429 01:00:08   10   1
DONE kde/kdewebdev                            20080429 01:38:53   10   1
DONE kde/koffice                              20080429 01:58:37    9   1
DONE kde/plasma                               20080429 00:57:31   10   1
DONE kde/playground-plasma                    20080429 01:33:51   10   1
DONE kde/qt-copy                              20080429 00:44:14  100   7
DONE net/cgit                                 20080429 00:18:36   10   1
DONE net/dspam                                20080429 00:18:59   10   1
FAIL kde/ktorrent                             20080429 01:10:58   10   1
FAIL kde/phpqt                                20080429 01:35:46   10   1
FAIL kde/playground-libs                      20080429 01:35:47   10   1

When a build FAILs it tails the last 10 lines to the either the .i686 or .x86_64 build state files (hopefully a .ps3 architecture in a few weeks too)...

http://code.google.com/p/eth-os/source/ … 86_64?r=11

otherwise a DONE is (hopefully) a succesful build. FWIW, the second last column is build priority (qt-copy is 100 so gets built first) and the last column is build frequency in days... qt-copy should only get built every 7 days but I let it build every night for now.

Update: I will disable ccache for tonights 20080430 build just in case it's interfering and providing old or bogus reusable chunks of code. Here is a bit of a outline as to what has been happening with the plasma desktop... a bit like @Makis' signature, if it ain't broke then break it and really fix it :-) Apparently the fixing stage is just about done.

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/04/and- … s-men.html

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#148 2008-04-29 15:20:21

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

Radfahrer wrote:

Hi,
i just tried to compile kdepimlibs from trunk and I always get this error message:


-- Usable gpgme flavours found:  vanilla pthread pth
CMake Error: Could not find Akonadi includes.
-- Configuring done


anybody have an idea how to fix this problem?

Wrong topic, this is for the daily svn trunk packages provided by markc.
Start another topic


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#149 2008-04-29 23:14:18

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

kdepimlibs built okay here last night, 20080430. A couple of emails this morning indicated I was not building kdebase early enough, apparently the order should be...

(qt-copy) -> kdesupport -> kdelibs -> kdepimlibs -> kdebase -> kdebindings -> anything else

whereas the build priority setting for my kdebase build had dissappeared so it was built later in the process. And this snippet from neundorf@kde.org is revealing...

now that automoc4 is in kdesupport and used by akonadi, I think we'll enable  it next week or so also for the rest of KDE (with a transition period where the one from kdelibs is still used if automoc4 is not found).

So both this automoc4 and akonadi could be problematic for a week or so as well. FWIW, the akonadi includes are in kdepimlibs (/usr/include/akonadi/) so I guess @Radfahrer might have been unlucky with his particular checkout and just needs to svn up.

Update: I just restarted my desktop and the panel seems back to normal now... and the systray even works! :-)

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#150 2008-04-30 07:45:32

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Re: Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

I get
kde is up to date
gui is up to date
dev is up to date

And the build date is 4.1.0-20080429 .


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