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tmadhavan · 2005-05-16 10:57:13

Hey all,

Haven't posted a screen yet because it usually looks rubbish. Spent a day setting up openbox with transparency and torsmo (and some adesklets), looks OK now.

Although if anyone knows how to get torsmo to show up through transparent windows that'd be cool. If I set it to run in its own window it shows through, but the window has an ugly light blue background for some reason...

Anyway:
Clean

Dirty

T.

neri · 2005-05-16 11:46:34

miqorz wrote:

I never understood why people demand such fancy things out of a window manager..
Openbox is very simple. But sexy. What more could a guy want?

Agreed, while most of the transpareny/animation{list,to,be,extended}
usually distract the user and keep him/her from some really productive
work the whole thing has some nice side effects. It would be nice, to have
even such simple WM like openbox accelerated via GL. The drawing of
windows is really a job that could/should be done by the graphics adapter.

And as long as people demand fancy features the development goes this
direction - therefore I like it

-neri

iphitus · 2005-05-16 12:26:44

miqorz wrote:

I never understood why people demand such fancy things out of a window manager..
Openbox is very simple. But sexy. What more could a guy want?

ion3

it actually does what a window manager is meant to do, it manages my windows for me.

fetreney2000 · 2005-05-16 12:41:18

neri wrote:

Hi,
you can have only one tray at one time, and who coms first usually wins.
Since Fluxbox has it's own tray the external will be disabled, I'm not sure
about the taskbar though. Out of curiosity, which external toolbar do you
wanna use?
You might wanna try the experimental waimea-cms from unstable. It's
freedesktop.org's sample window manager and I guess it can handle quite
some fancy stuff. It supports icons and is based on cairo, so I guess
transparency and things can be handled (maybe even gl accelerated via glitz)
-neri

I try pypanel, fbpanel and xfce4 panel but all of them have problem with fluxbox. The problem persist even if I create my own fluxbox package without support for the built-in toolbar. Only openbox handle the all the external toolbar correctly but I want more eye candy than what openbox can provide

miqorz wrote:

I never understood why people demand such fancy things out of a window manager..
Openbox is very simple. But sexy. What more could a guy want?

All people have their own preference I guess. For some people, ion or even ratpoison is enough and they might consider openbox is bloated. For you, openbox is good enough but other people want more than that. Thats what make this world colorful and interesting

iphitus · 2005-05-16 13:14:07

I dont use ion because I consider anything else bloated, I use ion3 because it actually does what it's meant to do and manages my windows for me.

If i want to start firefox, i hit my keyboard shortcut, presently ion detects if i already hav firefox running and switches to it for me instead of starting a second copy. i have a similar setup for multiple applications.
all my copies of gvim or any text editor are automatically opened on desktop 3, to avoid them cluttering my main one on 1. all gaim windows go to desktop 2 along with xchat. xchat and my gaim buddy list are both configured with the aforementioned check-if-running shortcut.
i have my console bound to the backtick key, similar to how most games have it, hiding and appearing upon pressing that key, as games do it. i can also tab windows together with it in that frame so it provides an easy mechanism for hiding windows
gimp is automatically loaded onto desktop 4 which is a regular window manager styled desktop, although i plan to convert that to a panews workspace instead that uses some really cool stuff to manage the windows for me.

i can access any window on my desktop with 2 keystrokes, and most of them with 1.

iphitus

tmadhavan · 2005-05-16 14:35:50

Aaaahhh console on the old tilde eh? Now that is a good idea which I've never thought of before.

How is it bound? Using ion? Or something like xbindkeys?

/I'm off to find out how to do that.

Genius

phrakture · 2005-05-16 15:07:44

miqorz wrote:

I never understood why people demand such fancy things out of a window manager..
Openbox is very simple. But sexy. What more could a guy want?

I never understood it either, but here's my take:
You have two camps of users... ones who use their box for media (internet, movies, audio) and those who use their box for work (writing, reading, blah). Now, of course these camps mesh, but I'm talking *primary* use...

Ok, so camp (a) watches movies, checks slashdot, osnews, k5, ... ( :shock: ) and then they're done... they have nothing else to do on their machine. These people are usually the ones who want everything to be flashy like a corvette.

Camp (b) spends time reading papers on Nth order polynomial solutions and quaternization (sp?), writing esoteric stream filters like sed and awk, and trying to convince friends that the deontological view of universalizable ethics is flawed. These people are usually proponents of desktop "usability"....

Anyway, I'm generally in camp (b), though I haven't read and mathematics papers in a few months...

edit: for the record my dekstop usually consists of wmii running fullscreen firefox, a full screen terminal running screen (~5 terminals open in screen) and then miscellaneous other windows... like bittorrent, etc - I've been debating switching to ratpoison, though, as it fits my general usage of wmii (maxed windows) - but I doubt I'll do that...

tmadhavan · 2005-05-16 17:17:21

Hmm can't get that tilde bound to console using openbox bindings or xbindkeys. There's no documentation for them either.

Any idea what the key code is for ' ` '? Running read just gives `.

T

phrakture · 2005-05-16 17:33:09

tmadhavan wrote:

Hmm can't get that tilde bound to console using openbox bindings or xbindkeys. There's no documentation for them either.
Any idea what the key code is for ' ` '? Running read just gives `.
T

try xev

xerxes2 · 2005-05-16 23:02:57

phrakture wrote:

miqorz wrote:
I never understood why people demand such fancy things out of a window manager..
Openbox is very simple. But sexy. What more could a guy want?
I never understood it either, but here's my take:
You have two camps of users... ones who use their box for media (internet, movies, audio) and those who use their box for work (writing, reading, blah). Now, of course these camps mesh, but I'm talking *primary* use...
Ok, so camp (a) watches movies, checks slashdot, osnews, k5, ... ( :shock: ) and then they're done... they have nothing else to do on their machine. These people are usually the ones who want everything to be flashy like a corvette.
Camp (b) spends time reading papers on Nth order polynomial solutions and quaternization (sp?), writing esoteric stream filters like sed and awk, and trying to convince friends that the deontological view of universalizable ethics is flawed. These people are usually proponents of desktop "usability"....
Anyway, I'm generally in camp (b), though I haven't read and mathematics papers in a few months...
edit: for the record my dekstop usually consists of wmii running fullscreen firefox, a full screen terminal running screen (~5 terminals open in screen) and then miscellaneous other windows... like bittorrent, etc - I've been debating switching to ratpoison, though, as it fits my general usage of wmii (maxed windows) - but I doubt I'll do that...

this is the best description of desktop users that i've ever read, 8)

also if you're a laptop user you should try something lighter than gnome/kde, you get faster boot and it takes less battery/cpu power,

iphitus · 2005-05-17 01:26:54

The tilde bindings is a ion3 thing, i have the terminal set to launch in the ion scratch pad whose visibility is toggled by pressing the button mentioned. You dont use the character when you use it in xbindkeys, you use the name of it, which is 'grave' here although it differs on different keyboards. you can find it by using xev.

phrakture: i used to use ratpoison, and I find ion3 substantially more capable, and it looks a bit better too. once you get the hang of the scripting, its awesome.

mdirolf · 2005-05-17 01:46:06

You could also get the tilde functionality using the autohide functions of fvwm2, which i have recently declared "most amazingly versatile wm ever". seriously. try it. its awesome. from a former *box user.

-Mike

EDIT: P.S. -> It's just about my one year anniversary using linux (and arch for that matter, i never tried anything but AL).

fetreney2000 · 2005-05-17 01:49:11

mdirolf wrote:

You could also get the tilde functionality using the autohide functions of fvwm2, which i have recently declared "most amazingly versatile wm ever". seriously. try it. its awesome. from a former *box user.
-Mike

But the amount of configuring and time it takes to get a nice and usable desktop is a turnoff for many people (me included).

mdirolf · 2005-05-17 01:59:25

fetreney2000 wrote:

mdirolf wrote:
You could also get the tilde functionality using the autohide functions of fvwm2, which i have recently declared "most amazingly versatile wm ever". seriously. try it. its awesome. from a former *box user.
-Mike
But the amount of configuring and time it takes to get a nice and usable desktop is a turnoff for many people (me included).

The configuration time was always the major turnoff for me, until i tried fvwm2 about 5 days ago. I recommend starting with somebody else's .fvwm2rc that you know matches a style you would like, and then it isn't hard to learn as you go and transform it into a perfect fit for you. It took me about 3 days of work off and on when I didn't feel like studying for exams to get a desktop that fits me better than anything else has, and the config I started with was already pretty usable.

But then again, to each his own

phrakture · 2005-05-17 05:02:02

xerxes2 wrote:

this is the best description of desktop users that i've ever read, 8)

hooray

I've been looking seriously into ratpoison recently.... uberly stable and it does everything....

tmadhavan · 2005-05-17 07:14:17

Cheers guys

Turns out xbindkeys -k was what I was after, and yeh the key was called 'grave'.

Now I have a lovely console popping up when I press tilde. Of course I can't actually type the character... maybe I'll change it to ctrl-tilde.

Thanks again iphitus for the idea, you want to sticky that somewhere.

T

citral · 2005-05-18 12:14:30

Just running stock lila until I find something better. It's hard though to find a theme that is good for grub/gensplash/gtk/icons all in one.
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Florin · 2005-05-18 20:08:47

My last screenshot

phrakture · 2005-05-18 20:28:11

citral wrote:

Just running stock lila until I find something better.

what's lila?

Meshuggin · 2005-05-18 21:45:25

phrakture wrote:

citral wrote:
Just running stock lila until I find something better.
what's lila?

I think it's some kind of fvwm theme

http://www.usinglinux.org/x11-themes/lila-xfwm4.html

citral · 2005-05-18 21:45:40

phrakture wrote:

citral wrote:
Just running stock lila until I find something better.
what's lila?

A color

...But also a sweet theme set for xfce/gnome/kde/grub/splash/etc. See link.

miqorz · 2005-05-19 10:38:17

http://vortex.floppyhat.net/Images/xfce-new.png

Trying some new stuff. Don't bother asking me a million questions about it, Chances are I won't answer.

corky · 2005-05-19 11:50:12

miqorz wrote:

http://vortex.floppyhat.net/Images/xfce-new.png
Trying some new stuff. Don't bother asking me a million questions about it, Chances are I won't answer.

Don't post screenshots if you dont want some questions asked, it's not hard.

As for this one, no questions anyway, its a bog standard xfce with a few gnome apps

miqorz · 2005-05-19 12:25:55

How about pissing off? And you're incredibly wrong. FWIW.

FUBAR · 2005-05-19 14:00:34

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fbpager 0.1.4-s1

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