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#26 2004-10-31 12:53:21

qball
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

mpd+gmpc big_smile

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#27 2004-10-31 20:22:39

Lovechild
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Muine...


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#28 2004-10-31 22:17:35

neri
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

qball wrote:

mpd+gmpc big_smile

Hi since we never made it on IRC, I will sum up here the latest events smile

1. mpd runs fine, introducing a user media is really a good thing and makes
things very easy. It also make sharing between machines somewhat more
structured.
2. It's just my lappi, which doesn't like mpd. It looks like this:

top - 22:55:07 up  3:54,  2 users,  load average: 0.25, 0.26, 0.26
Tasks:  76 total,   1 running,  75 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 32.2% us, 15.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 50.9% id,  0.0% wa,  1.4% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:    253364k total,   247260k used,     6104k free,    49452k buffers
Swap:   498004k total,        0k used,   498004k free,    87500k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND            
14082 root      15   0 64196  25m  49m S 22.3 10.4   0:47.18 X
14222 media     15   0  7164 4244 6180 S 14.8  1.7   0:05.21 mpd
14223 media     15   0  7048 4476 6048 S  4.1  1.8   0:01.84 mpd
14230 tobias    15   0  7588 3600 6416 S  3.4  1.4   0:00.34 mlterm
14155 tobias    15   0  112m  44m  32m S  1.8 18.1   1:24.33 firefox-bin
14117 tobias    15   0 10832 6032 9512 S  1.1  2.4   0:01.40 xfwm4
14123 tobias    15   0 18052  12m  12m S  0.5  5.1   0:10.34 xfce4-panel
14112 tobias    15   0 10568 5004 9916 S  0.2  2.0   0:00.73 xfce4-session
14121 tobias    15   0 13636 8020  11m S  0.2  3.2   0:01.47 xfdesktop
14221 tobias    15   0 16832  11m  13m S  0.2  4.5   0:01.12 gmpc

but only when it plays. Maybe it is also a tribute to that crappy via audio
chipset, which I force via alsa to sample stuff to 48000 since otherwise
any sound is crackling pain. /etc/asound.conf

pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave sl2
}
ctl.!default {
    type hw
    card 0
}
pcm_slave.sl2 {
    pcm "hw:0,0"
    rate 48000
}

pcm.via82xx
{
type hw
card 0
device 1
}

ctl.via82xx
{
type hw
card 0
}

pcm.via82xx {
  type plug
  slave {
    pcm "hw:0,1"
    rate 48000
  }
}
ctl.via82xx {
  type hw
  card 0
}

apart from that everything is fine. I just like to have some more options in
mpd. Such as an easier update of the db. Rescanning 60GB+ just to add a
new album is a pain. But I havent read the complete manpage now.
mpd update just takes long. All this could be done via some more options
to the initscript, additionally to the ordinary start,stop,restart.
My PKGBUILDs:
http://www.justdreams.de/archlinux/downloads/mpd

when a bit testing is done some things will make it to extra, promised. And
when devs have talked about user management.

-neri

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#29 2004-10-31 23:54:20

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

I like to use xmms2... it's very nice


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#30 2004-11-01 05:21:28

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

gst-player when it becomes stable (but it already is if I don't change settings while playing...)


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#31 2004-11-01 12:24:00

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

punkrockguy318 wrote:

I like to use xmms2... it's very nice

I haven't used xmms2 for a while now, how is it coming along? Were the deps on mono and gtksharp removed from dbus? Does the sound from xmms2 still crack a bit when starting new songs? Does a usable client exist yet? (I won't hold my breath for the last one wink


All of your mips are belong to us!!

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#32 2004-11-02 00:43:36

iphitus
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

was rhythmbox... but its now really broken, after importing about 200 songs of my 3000 song library, it freezes, goes into an infinite loop consuming all cpu sad

i would normally use beepmp next, but my copy of beep is really buggy and isnt working well.....


so im just using my cd player

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#33 2004-11-02 01:17:26

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

just installed mpd again.... whheeee its soo much better than when i last used it!!!

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#34 2004-11-02 02:21:17

punkrockguy318
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

bogomipz wrote:
punkrockguy318 wrote:

I like to use xmms2... it's very nice

I haven't used xmms2 for a while now, how is it coming along? Were the deps on mono and gtksharp removed from dbus? Does the sound from xmms2 still crack a bit when starting new songs? Does a usable client exist yet? (I won't hold my breath for the last one wink

It's coming along very nicely!
Yes, those dependencies were removed, I submitted a bug report and it was fixed.
Nope, everything sounds crystal!
The command line client has improved alot!  Just do I an xmms2d -dn (d = daemon n= shutup).  Then it's pretty easy to use from there (add, radd, list, status, play, pause).  Type xmms2 for full details.  I use xmms2 and bmp-cvs mostly now.  None of them come close to WinAmp5 though... I wish bmp had a system tray, global hotkeys, better visualazations, crossfade and a media library.. Then i would use it.

XMMS2 has lots of potential.. They're taking there time (unlike xmms which was slopped together, which is making bmp so hard to develop..).  That will make further development very nice.  If I wanted too, and the xmms2 code wasn't going to change I would write a simple little client for fun. Maybe I will one of these days.


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#35 2004-11-02 10:48:51

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Writing a client for xmms2 kind of sounds like a good learning project. I never really wanted to learn C++, but realize it's time I do that now. If not for any other reason, it's something I should have on my Curriculum Vitae. Maybe I'll look into doing a QT based client soon. It would probably be scraped eventually, either because the API changes too much or because the client will be crap wink


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#36 2004-11-02 13:02:46

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

its semi offtopic, but.. does anyone know of a dbus java api.. If I understood it correct, I need to use dbus to be able to write a xmms2 client.

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#37 2004-11-02 13:45:37

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

soniX wrote:

its semi offtopic, but.. does anyone know of a dbus java api.. If I understood it correct, I need to use dbus to be able to write a xmms2 client.

Surprisingly enough, there doesn't seem to be one. It's not listed under the D-BUS APIs on http://freedesktop.org/Software/DbusProjects , I didn't find Java mentioned a single time on the D-BUS mailing list for the past year, and Google didn't help much either.

I would guess that a Java API should appear in not too long, but as far as I can see there's no project for it on sf.net nor freashmeat.net. This could be an indication of a trend on the desktop; .NET replaces Java.

EDIT: Actually, xmms2 doesn't use dbus any more, it uses its own IPC which is part of libxmmsclient


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#38 2004-11-03 21:11:39

oscar
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

mpd + ncmpc / glurp smile
I think mpd is the smartest thing invented since sliced bread ^_^


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#39 2004-11-03 21:57:39

neri
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

oscar wrote:

mpd + ncmpc / glurp smile
I think mpd is the smartest thing invented since sliced bread ^_^

Do you think a user "media" with it's home in /home/media where all you
mp3 and maybe video files could be stored would be helpful for mpd?
"media" would also be the non-privileged user running mpd service then.

-neri

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#40 2004-11-03 22:17:42

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Wow, MPD is really nice... A lot more mature then xmms2!  I'm going to start using it.  Maybe I'll add glurp or something to my TUR


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#41 2004-11-03 22:49:40

neri
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

The mpd and related PKGBUILDs here:
http://www.justdreams.de/archlinux/downloads/mpd/
are prepared for automatic configuration of mpd.conf
means:
- they unlock alsa support as it is Archlinux' prefered audio solution
- introduce a media user

makes it running pretty much out of the box, as long as you copied your
music to /home/media/music BEFORE you start mpd for the first time.

you also find pretty much every mpd client there. I just don't wann put
stuff to extra b4 the managing of users isn't clear.

-neri

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#42 2004-11-03 23:37:23

oscar
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

neri wrote:
oscar wrote:

mpd + ncmpc / glurp smile
I think mpd is the smartest thing invented since sliced bread ^_^

Do you think a user "media" with it's home in /home/media where all you
mp3 and maybe video files could be stored would be helpful for mpd?
"media" would also be the non-privileged user running mpd service then.

-neri

I think that is making a simple solution pretty advanced - why even involve a new user?
Since this is a single user system, I've stored my music on a central location (like /music), and they are owned by my user, and that's it.
I run the mpd-process as a simple user.


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#43 2004-11-04 02:43:00

punkrockguy318
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Re: Favorite Music Player?

neri wrote:

The mpd and related PKGBUILDs here:
http://www.justdreams.de/archlinux/downloads/mpd/
are prepared for automatic configuration of mpd.conf
means:
- they unlock alsa support as it is Archlinux' prefered audio solution
- introduce a media user

makes it running pretty much out of the box, as long as you copied your
music to /home/media/music BEFORE you start mpd for the first time.

you also find pretty much every mpd client there. I just don't wann put
stuff to extra b4 the managing of users isn't clear.

-neri

Why do you need a media user?  Why don't you use just /home/media, and have it r/w accessible to users?  Or a media group?


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#44 2004-11-04 03:22:24

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

iphitus wrote:

was rhythmbox... but its now really broken, after importing about 200 songs of my 3000 song library, it freezes, goes into an infinite loop consuming all cpu sad

i would normally use beepmp next, but my copy of beep is really buggy and isnt working well.....


so im just using my cd player

Dude, use easytag.  pacman -S easytag.  Open it up and load all your mp3s then save them.  It'll fix alot of broken tags.  That's why Rhythmbox breaks.  Trust me, I have 60gb of mp3/oggs.  It works.

So yeah, Rhythmbox gets my vote.  Because I don't have to 'load' files.  Everything is already there when I run it.

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#45 2004-11-04 03:28:17

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Zerosleep wrote:
iphitus wrote:

was rhythmbox... but its now really broken, after importing about 200 songs of my 3000 song library, it freezes, goes into an infinite loop consuming all cpu sad

i would normally use beepmp next, but my copy of beep is really buggy and isnt working well.....


so im just using my cd player

Dude, use easytag.  pacman -S easytag.  Open it up and load all your mp3s then save them.  It'll fix alot of broken tags.  That's why Rhythmbox breaks.  Trust me, I have 60gb of mp3/oggs.  It works.

So yeah, Rhythmbox gets my vote.  Because I don't have to 'load' files.  Everything is already there when I run it.

Even better use easytag-unstable.. It's actually quite stable.. It uses gtk2, instead of ugly old gtk+.  Yuck.  it's in my TUR I just updated it tonight.  the gtk2 version is the only one actively developed, the gtk+ is just maintained.


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#46 2004-11-04 03:29:24

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

iphutis:  Use bmp-cvs from my TUR, it's actually a lot more stable than the current stable version.  The one in extra is very buggy


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#47 2004-11-04 09:21:19

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Zerosleep wrote:

Dude, use easytag.  pacman -S easytag.  Open it up and load all your mp3s then save them.  It'll fix alot of broken tags.  That's why Rhythmbox breaks.  Trust me, I have 60gb of mp3/oggs.  It works.

So yeah, Rhythmbox gets my vote.  Because I don't have to 'load' files.  Everything is already there when I run it.

and us, the serious collectors, who's music have been released by some group, with sfvs' and everything - we can't fix any broken ID3s :'(


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#48 2004-11-04 19:03:42

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

That sucks, with all the music I have.  I need easytag.  I didn't know about the gtk2 version, thanks!

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#49 2004-11-05 01:39:32

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

i honestly dont have a favorite music player.. im still waiting for something good!

although i use it, i cant stand xmms.
whoever wanted to clone winamp has no clue about interfaces.
a play AND pause button?! talk about redundant.. and theyre so damn small!
and gtk1.. bleugh!!! cant stand it

i tried amarok but i dont like its style of sorting songs etc, i just want a basic player that has a good UI.. and preferably not a reliance on kde libs

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#50 2004-11-05 03:42:10

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Re: Favorite Music Player?

Father wrote:

i honestly dont have a favorite music player.. im still waiting for something good!

although i use it, i cant stand xmms.
whoever wanted to clone winamp has no clue about interfaces.
a play AND pause button?! talk about redundant.. and theyre so damn small!
and gtk1.. bleugh!!! cant stand it

i tried amarok but i dont like its style of sorting songs etc, i just want a basic player that has a good UI.. and preferably not a reliance on kde libs

Try Beep-Media-Player.  It's a gtk2 port of xmms, it's much improved IMHO

Also give mpd a try, it's very nice.  It's a music daemon, and you use clients to access it.  There is a GTK2 client, a command line client, and an ncurses client.  I use it all the time now. 

Rhythmbox is also quite nice (a lot like iTunes)


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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