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#226 2009-03-20 16:13:51

SyXbiT
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

do compiz and video playback work at the same time with catalyst 9.4?

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#227 2009-03-20 16:15:47

Dinth
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

They should work already in 9.2, when using Xv/AVIVO output.

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#228 2009-03-20 16:39:36

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Yup, video works with composite...

Altho now that i look closer video does look a bit blockier than before hmm

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#229 2009-03-20 16:46:00

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Dinth wrote:

Hm anybody have lib32-catalyst-utils 9.4RC1 pkgbuild ?

that could be a problem... hope a TU will pick catalyst up soon.

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#230 2009-03-20 19:13:39

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I sold my ATI card during catalyst 9.2, and composite and video playback was awful

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#231 2009-03-20 23:49:58

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@Dinth
I have catalyst 9.4 version in my repo.

[archiso-live]
Server = http://arch-live.isawsome.net/packages/

Put this before testing repo in /etc/pacman.conf. You do need testing cause it depends on xorg-server 1.6.0.

I hope this helps.


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#232 2009-03-21 08:23:54

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Are you aware of any benchmarks comparing catalyst 9.x with radeonhd drivers?

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#233 2009-03-25 07:45:29

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@xaff
Phoronix will probably have some soon,
It seems benchmarks are all they do.

Last edited by snuo (2009-03-25 07:48:25)

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#234 2009-03-25 08:15:18

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I guess the fact that they've dropped support for my R480-based card is a sign I should upgrade.


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#235 2009-03-25 09:51:03

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Nah,  just use the open drivers, I hear they're good.

If you get a bleeding edge card then there will be very limited options for drivers.

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#236 2009-03-26 05:28:50

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snuo wrote:

Nah,  just use the open drivers, I hear they're good.

If you get a bleeding edge card then there will be very limited options for drivers.

I should try them out at least to see how good their 3D performance is. Will be an interesting experiment.


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#237 2009-03-26 22:06:32

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Zeist wrote:
snuo wrote:

Nah,  just use the open drivers, I hear they're good.

If you get a bleeding edge card then there will be very limited options for drivers.

I should try them out at least to see how good their 3D performance is. Will be an interesting experiment.

Their performance sucks hmm In Urban Terror i get 20 fps, while with catalyst 8.12 i get 60 fps with my r500 based card. The interesting moment is that with catalyst 9.x drivers i get 20fps too

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#238 2009-03-27 23:51:47

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Catalyst 9.3 is out.  [Download]  [Release Notes]  [Phoronix Coverage]

Last edited by Wintervenom (2009-03-27 23:54:07)

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#239 2009-03-28 01:32:24

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

With support for catalyst being dropped I decided to try the opensource drivers with my laptops ATI Mobility Radeon X1600. xf86-video-radeonhd and xf86-video-ati both worked but the later seems to have the edge with performance though both lag behind the catalyst driver in 3D anyway. One thing I do miss is the ability to change the power settings with aticonfig --set-powerstate 1. I'm guessing this functionality relies on the catalyst driver being installed. Is there any way to adjust power levels with the xf86-video-ati driver?

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#240 2009-03-28 01:43:08

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

mikesd wrote:

With support for catalyst being dropped I decided to try the opensource drivers with my laptops ATI Mobility Radeon X1600. xf86-video-radeonhd and xf86-video-ati both worked but the later seems to have the edge with performance though both lag behind the catalyst driver in 3D anyway. One thing I do miss is the ability to change the power settings with aticonfig --set-powerstate 1. I'm guessing this functionality relies on the catalyst driver being installed. Is there any way to adjust power levels with the xf86-video-ati driver?

not just yet i think, i heard they're working on it..


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#241 2009-03-28 02:20:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Doesn't directly apply, but may be interesting: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=13566

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#242 2009-03-28 06:16:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hope so litemotiv. Yes Ranguvar, I had read that while googling around for a way to change power levels with the OS driver. Interesting read.

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#243 2009-03-28 06:46:15

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I installed the 9.3 driver on my Arch x86_64 with KDE4.1. It still has the flush_tlb problem (same patch for 9.2 works for 9.3) and the /usr/lib64 symlink is needed still, but it has the redirected direct rendering which works.

With composite enabled I don't seem to get 2d slowdowns any more while using 3d (like watching a movie and bringing the bar up in smplayer or right clicking on the movie would slow it down dramatically).
I do get a 1-2 second pause but then the movie seems to resume at fullspeed. No flickering while composite is enable either smile

I do have problems running eve-online in wine with composite, eve-online loads but my desktop wallpaper is the only thing that shows until I disabled compositing.

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#244 2009-03-28 07:48:46

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

but it has the redirected direct rendering which works

That isnt RDR, it is some Ati own solution

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#245 2009-03-28 22:53:53

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Dinth wrote:

That isnt RDR, it is some Ati own solution

Your right, I thought I read something on the phoronix forums they were going to implement something similar to RDR in fglrx but I couldn't find the thread.

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#246 2009-03-29 12:06:25

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Sorry if this is painfully obvious, but how are you installing the newly-released 9.3 driver?
The PKGBUILD in AUR is for 9.4, I tried modifying it for 9.3 but it didn't work.
I use x86_64 btw.

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#247 2009-03-29 12:42:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Zeist wrote:
snuo wrote:

Nah,  just use the open drivers, I hear they're good.

If you get a bleeding edge card then there will be very limited options for drivers.

I should try them out at least to see how good their 3D performance is. Will be an interesting experiment.

Xf86-video-ati has excellent Compiz/KWin4 perfomance as I can see here. And makes the system far more responsive that that thing called fglrx.

X1600 card here.

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#248 2009-03-29 17:38:50

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I too would be interested to know how one goes about installing catalyst 9.3 in Arch. I ran the installer and did aticonfig --initial -f, but xinit just tells me there is an error finding modules glx, dri and fglrx.

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#249 2009-03-29 19:23:07

Dinth
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

There are catalyst-old with 9.3 version in aur

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#250 2009-03-29 19:53:31

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Can I control fan speed with Xf86-video-ati?

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