The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

trontonic · 2009-06-27 16:13:19

Linux supports more hardware out of the box, than any other operating system.
If you buy a Mac, you don't expect any random piece of hardware to work. Same with Linux.
The makers of graphics cards and printers are the ones that should be supplying drivers.
Linux developers even make the drivers for free, if they are contacted. (http://kerneltrap.org/node/7636)

While I understand that it's annoying, complaints should go directly to the companies that you supported with money when you bought hardware from them.

Mazur · 2009-06-27 16:31:08

ATI is complainting from years and nothing's changed, like in this poem.

venky80 · 2009-06-27 18:59:40

with catalyst atleast the pc is cooler....radeon makes it too hot and there is no 3d

Mazur · 2009-06-27 19:42:51

You are wrong, I got better performance and power managment on radeonhd than on Catalyst. Maybe no huge difference but I will wait for 3d.

venky80 · 2009-06-27 19:52:33

Mazur wrote:

You are wrong, I got better performance and power managment on radeonhd than on Catalyst. Maybe no huge difference but I will wait for 3d.

well i have dell xps studio 1640 with mobility radeon HD3670 my fan never stopped with radeonHD driver and the bottom got too hot, but it did do suspend to ram
in catalyst i cannot suspend to ram but the laptop is cooler...so whichever way you see it sucks for me!

Ya want to really get rid of catalyst though

Mazur · 2009-06-27 21:58:05

So I am not sure since I am using PC with HD3200. I think I am going to try mesa-git, dri2proto-git and radeonhd-git to try this 3d.

DevoidOfWindows · 2009-06-28 01:44:32

I am using a 3100 (basically, a watered-down 3200), and the 3D (although slow) and the 2D (excellent) it is working great for me with the current versions of everything in [extra], and xf86-video-radeon (not -hd). You probably have to add radeon to your MODULES array. I have a (mostly) static kernel, but when I try to compile it in, the kernel dies at boot.

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venky80 · 2009-06-28 02:15:27

Mazur wrote:

So I am not sure since I am using PC with HD3200. I think I am going to try mesa-git, dri2proto-git and radeonhd-git to try this 3d.

Could you detail your effort if you are successful?

frostmyname · 2009-06-28 20:23:55

People After all patches, the module has compiled, and loaded, but at any attempt to work with 3d drawing - my laptop hangs!
HD3470

trontonic · 2009-06-28 21:36:47

I have Radeon HD3850. Today I upgraded to the 2.6.30 kernel and 3D now works fine.

Here are the steps that worked for me:
* Remove catalyst and catalyst-utils
* Install all the latest updates, including the 2.6.30 version of the kernel
* Remove slim/gdm/kdm/xdm/X from rc.conf and reboot into the terminal
* Install catalyst and catalyst-utils, play nethack in another terminal while you wait
* As root, run aticonfig --initial
* startx to test
* Add slim/gdm/kdm/xdm/X to rc.conf, if you like
* Start X, your login manager or reboot

Tested with Blender, Nexuiz, glxgears and fgl_glxgears.
Some tweaking with amdcccle was needed to make Blender look right.

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flamelab · 2009-06-28 22:22:08

You don't really need to ... remove gdm/slim/anything. Just remove any reference to a DM from rc.conf, make your DM options in inittab the right way, and when rebooting, just add "3" in the end of the second line of grub, so that you won't need to boot into any DM or DE.

DevoidOfWindows · 2009-06-28 23:17:29

Why not just save a lot of trouble and boot into Single Mode, and $(su) in as your username to install?

venky80 · 2009-06-29 00:17:20

trontonic wrote:

I have Radeon HD3850. Today I upgraded to the 2.6.30 kernel and 3D now works fine.
Here are the steps that worked for me:
* Remove catalyst and catalyst-utils
* Install all the latest updates, including the 2.6.30 version of the kernel
* Remove slim/gdm/kdm/xdm/X from rc.conf and reboot into the terminal
* Install catalyst and catalyst-utils, play nethack in another terminal while you wait
* As root, run aticonfig --initial
* startx to test
* Add slim/gdm/kdm/xdm/X to rc.conf, if you like
* Start X, your login manager or reboot
Tested with Blender, Nexuiz, glxgears and fgl_glxgears.
Some tweaking with amdcccle was needed to make Blender look right.

x86_64 or i686? catalyst from AUR?

trontonic · 2009-06-29 08:11:58

flamelab, I never said one should remove the desktop manager, just the reference in rc.conf. Adding "3" to the end of the second line of grub is possible, sure.

DevoidOfWindows and flamelab, this list worked for me, I never claimed it's the only way to do it. The reason I did not use single user mode or similar, is that out of experience there's a big possibility that there will be multiple reboots because of complete hangs. The way I did it one does not have to specify that one wants the single user mode at every reboot. Luckily, this time, only one reboot was needed.

venky80, I'm on x86_64 and I used catalyst from AUR.

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godane · 2009-06-29 08:49:03

I think the problem is i686 version of catalyst. Not x86_64 version of catalyst.

venky80 · 2009-06-29 14:10:37

godane wrote:

I think the problem is i686 version of catalyst. Not x86_64 version of catalyst.

godane, I updated the xorg-server from testing now I am not able to login into kdm all i see is a blank screen, I am on kde svn , dont know what broke it, do you have any insights?

ap_ · 2009-06-29 15:44:35

My suspending/resuming issue seemed to be 2.6.30 related. Not directly catalyst 9.6 related. I added hpet=disable to boot parameters and it seems to work perfectly now!

unkiepunkie · 2009-06-30 13:59:02

Still doesn't work for me.
I use the stock kernel. I compiled the catalyst driver myself, with the PKGBUILD from aur, but with the flush_tlb_page-94 patch.
This is a i686 system. The device is a mobility radeon X1400 (officially unsupported by ATI).

When trying to load the module:

$ sudo modprobe -v fglrx
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko 
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory

dmesg:

[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 1411 MBytes.
[fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating device heads
[fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

kensai · 2009-06-30 14:06:31

OK, people, I just added the new catalyst and catalyst-utils that work with the stock kernel to the repo, and removed the patched kernel, so guys please, remove the kernel you had installed from my repo and install the stock one along with the catalyst and catalyst-utils packages in my repo. To add my repo:
add to pacman.conf

[catalyst]
Server = http://dev.archlinux.org/~eduardo/repo/x86_64

[catalyst]
Server = http://dev.archlinux.org/~eduardo/repo/i686

if you had my kernel installed, please remove it and install the stock one with the new drivers:

pacman -S core/kernel26 catalyst catalyst-utils

remember to reinstall the drivers with every xorg-server mesa and libdrm upgrade.

Last edited by kensai (2009-08-21 15:29:58)

markding · 2009-06-30 14:16:06

I can't do nothing with i686. god damn... maybe I really go to x64 ...

kensai · 2009-06-30 15:15:04

markding wrote:

I can't do nothing with i686. god damn... maybe I really go to x64 ...

The future is inevitable, I don't loose anything using 64-bit.

frostmyname · 2009-06-30 15:22:57

damn, again x64...

kensai · 2009-06-30 16:00:00

heh, sorry well, I can't build for i686, so maybe someone else can provide them to me, and I upload them.

RobbeR49 · 2009-06-30 17:32:44

Kensai, just want to say thanks for putting up this repo!

venky80 · 2009-06-30 17:48:55

kensai wrote:

heh, sorry well, I can't build for i686, so maybe someone else can provide them to me, and I upload them.

I thought godane was doing it but it is not working for me anymore after xorg server upgrade

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