The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ivdok · 2013-08-21 04:00:18

Lockheed wrote:

ivdok wrote:
Going back to the topic, I would've totally purged all xorg- and graphcs-related packages and configs, cleared Pacman cache and reinstalled again, but many Archers here wouldn't agree with me. So, currently, try to once again purge Nvidia assets and reinstall AMD from repos. That's all I can advice, since I got my problems too right now, due to kernel 3.10 updates.
Hey man. Just wanted to say thanks for your suggestion. This was indeed what solved the problem.
As it turned out, libgl32-nvidia and cuda packages leave a lot of leftover libs even after being uninstalled. I got rid of them and voila - things work as they should.
Thanks again.

Not a big deal.

By the way, does anybody have working xvba-playback with latest catalyst beta and Linux 3.10? GPU chip family and actual name does not matter.

maroid · 2013-08-21 14:42:08

Phoronix forum members tell there's no memory leak with 13.8-beta2 anymore. Can anybody confirm this?

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totokaka · 2013-08-21 16:48:13

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Cirdan · 2013-08-21 18:57:11

I did a full system update last night, and it seems to have broken the AMD drivers to the point where X is failing to start up. According to the log for x it says

atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible

DRI initialization failed
kernel moduke (fglrx.ko) may be missing or incomplete
2D and 3D acceleration disabled
fglrx: cannot allocate LFB for rotation buffer and rotation will be disabled
unable to set mode, attempting without rotation
Failed to setup display infrastructure
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

ivdok · 2013-08-21 19:18:43

Cirdan wrote:

I did a full system update last night, and it seems to have broken the AMD drivers to the point where X is failing to start up. According to the log for x it says

atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible

DRI initialization failed
kernel moduke (fglrx.ko) may be missing or incomplete
2D and 3D acceleration disabled
fglrx: cannot allocate LFB for rotation buffer and rotation will be disabled
unable to set mode, attempting without rotation
Failed to setup display infrastructure
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

As Arch Wiki says, remake your kernel module by running "catalyst_build_module all", and telling us, if there was an error-log.

Last edited by ivdok (2013-08-21 19:18:59)

Cirdan · 2013-08-21 19:27:12

ivdok wrote:

As Arch Wiki says, remake your kernel module by running "catalyst_build_module all", and telling us, if there was an error-log.

Ah, that worked. Thank you!

PedroF · 2013-08-21 23:41:19

Hello,

First of all I would like to thank Vi0L0 for his/her amazing work on the current AMD drivers. Second thing I would ask is why Arch doesn't have official repositories for backports. It just does not make any sense that, why do I have to trust an external repository ? For the package xorg-server 1.13 we have to get it from http://catalyst.wirephire.com

Also I would like to know is how can I review the source code or compile xorg-server 1.13 without having to download premade packages from this repository.

Thanks

Last edited by PedroF (2013-08-21 23:42:22)

ChemBro · 2013-08-22 08:37:18

PedroF wrote:

Second thing I would ask is why Arch doesn't have official repositories for backports. It just does not make any sense that, why do I have to trust an external repository ?

It makes sense for Arch Linux. Why would you have an "official" repository, that breaks the packages of the real official repository. THAT doesn't make sense at all.

ivdok · 2013-08-22 10:09:48

PedroF wrote:

Hello,
First of all I would like to thank Vi0L0 for his/her amazing work on the current AMD drivers. Second thing I would ask is why Arch doesn't have official repositories for backports. It just does not make any sense that, why do I have to trust an external repository ? For the package xorg-server 1.13 we have to get it from http://catalyst.wirephire.com
Also I would like to know is how can I review the source code or compile xorg-server 1.13 without having to download premade packages from this repository.
Thanks

1. Arch is about Keeping It Simple. It uses only bleeding-edge software, and encourages to move forward while keeping things sane and useful. Making backports means stepping back, and creating needless entities, which is not faithful to Occam's razor principle, which is behind The Arch Way. If you like to use stable, old things, why not to switch to Debian Stable?
2. If you learned such words like "review", "compile" and "source code", this is strange what you don't know how to operate with them. Start your endeavor with ABS, Make and GCC.

Unia · 2013-08-22 11:06:55

PedroF wrote:

Hello,
First of all I would like to thank Vi0L0 for his/her amazing work on the current AMD drivers. Second thing I would ask is why Arch doesn't have official repositories for backports. It just does not make any sense that, why do I have to trust an external repository ? For the package xorg-server 1.13 we have to get it from http://catalyst.wirephire.com
Also I would like to know is how can I review the source code or compile xorg-server 1.13 without having to download premade packages from this repository.
Thanks

Did you even look for yourself?

PedroF · 2013-08-22 15:04:22

ivdok wrote:

1. Arch is about Keeping It Simple. It uses only bleeding-edge software, and encourages to move forward while keeping things sane and useful. Making backports means stepping back, and creating needless entities, which is not faithful to Occam's razor principle, which is behind The Arch Way. If you like to use stable, old things, why not to switch to Debian Stable?
2. If you learned such words like "review", "compile" and "source code", this is strange what you don't know how to operate with them. Start your endeavor with ABS, Make and GCC.

I've never said that I did not know how to "operate" them. I just asked if someone has done that. What is insane is the time AMD takes to update their drivers.

Unia wrote:

Did you even look for yourself?

I use to check the wiki for this kind of info. I did not find such thing in there.

Nice to know it is available but that should be on AUR too (where most people go check for packages).

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ivdok · 2013-08-22 15:11:57

PedroF wrote:

ivdok wrote:
1. Arch is about Keeping It Simple. It uses only bleeding-edge software, and encourages to move forward while keeping things sane and useful. Making backports means stepping back, and creating needless entities, which is not faithful to Occam's razor principle, which is behind The Arch Way. If you like to use stable, old things, why not to switch to Debian Stable?
2. If you learned such words like "review", "compile" and "source code", this is strange what you don't know how to operate with them. Start your endeavor with ABS, Make and GCC.
I've never said that I did not know how to "operate" them. I just asked if someone has done that. What is insane is the time AMD takes to update their drivers.
Unia wrote:
Did you even look for yourself?
I use to check the wiki for this kind of info. I did not find such thing in there.
Nice to know it is available but that should be on AUR too (where most people go check for packages).

If there's no AUR for old Xorg, why not to make one and insert info about it in the wiki? I saw old versions of software on AUR, like vala0.18, and it didn't seem like it's illegal to store it here.

PedroF · 2013-08-22 15:16:28

ivdok wrote:

If there's no AUR for old Xorg, why not to make one and insert info about it in the wiki? I saw old versions of software on AUR, like vala0.18, and it didn't seem like it's illegal to store it here.

In fact there is xorg-server 1.12 in AUR. So it is allowed to do that I guess..

ivdok · 2013-08-22 15:20:49

PedroF wrote:

ivdok wrote:
If there's no AUR for old Xorg, why not to make one and insert info about it in the wiki? I saw old versions of software on AUR, like vala0.18, and it didn't seem like it's illegal to store it here.
In fact there is xorg-server 1.12 in AUR. So it is allowed to do that I guess..

Well, didn't look into that, but it would be nive to have xorg1.13 in AUR. One more thing, though - you must make meta-package for Catalyst, since making 1.13 pack and stopping updating original also means you need to backport old xf86* packs and other xorg* packages. Seems painful, but that maybe the reason the repo is being hosted.

mamamia88 · 2013-08-22 15:48:52

So I ordered a hd5450 off ebay for an older dell. Is the catalsyst driver or the open source driver reccomended for this card?

ivdok · 2013-08-22 15:54:00

mamamia88 wrote:

So I ordered a hd5450 off ebay for an older dell. Is the catalsyst driver or the open source driver reccomended for this card?

You like playing games like DotA 2 and CSS? Often play via Wine in you favorite 3D-game? Use catalyst and have pain because of slow update cycle.
You are more into Facebook, casual games and video with funny kittens on Youtube? Use FOSS, and get low 3D performance.

omeringen · 2013-08-22 16:02:06

Hi,
After KDE 4.11 update, i have lost the desktop effects. No crash.

Using HD2400, installed catalyst-legacy from unofficial repo, followed the instructions at catalyst wiki.

Any information do you need except these ?
catalyst-hook 13.1-14
Linux arch 3.10.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 15 11:55:34 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
KDE 4.11.00
lspci
file:///etc/X11/xorg.conf
glxinfo
qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin supportInformation
readelf -sw /usr/lib/libGL.so | grep glXGetFBConfigs

Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce:
1.Go to the System Settings -> Desktop Effects and click on "Defaults" button and apply.
2.A message appears "19 desktop effects could not be loaded."

Expected Results:
It should load desktop effects without no problem. Works fine on KDE 4.10.5

I'll also fill a bug at kde bugzilla. Okay filled, bug323898

Last edited by omeringen (2013-08-22 16:15:34)

PedroF · 2013-08-22 16:04:20

omeringen wrote:

Hi,
After KDE 4.11 update, i have lost the desktop effects. No crash.
"19 desktop effects could not be loaded."
Using HD2400, installed catalyst from unofficial repo, followed the instructions at catalyst wiki.
Any information do you need except these ?
catalyst-hook 13.1-14
Linux arch 3.10.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 15 11:55:34 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
KDE 4.11.00
lspci
file:///etc/X11/xorg.conf
glxinfo
qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin supportInformation
readelf -sw /usr/lib/libGL.so | grep glXGetFBConfigs
I'll also fill a bug at kde bugzilla.

Radeons HD 2 3 4 xxx are not supported by the current catalyst.

Source: AUR

Last edited by PedroF (2013-08-22 16:05:55)

mamamia88 · 2013-08-22 16:09:05

ivdok wrote:

mamamia88 wrote:
So I ordered a hd5450 off ebay for an older dell. Is the catalsyst driver or the open source driver reccomended for this card?
You like playing games like DotA 2 and CSS? Often play via Wine in you favorite 3D-game? Use catalyst and have pain because of slow update cycle.
You are more into Facebook, casual games and video with funny kittens on Youtube? Use FOSS, and get low 3D performance.

I plan on using it as an xbmc box and occassionally play games up to the n64 era via emulators. Maybe get a gamecube adaptor for using a gamecube controller. I don't really plan on playing current games on it because i have a ps3 and am getting a ps4 in a few months. The cpu is a dual core pentium d running at 3.4ghz. It was one of those dell mini towers that they use on college campuses and businesses that get refurbed and you can buy on ebay for $100.

omeringen · 2013-08-22 16:16:23

@PedroF,
It's catalyst-legacy. I edited my post and added more info and the bug report link.

And1G · 2013-08-22 17:02:32

The Catalyst 13.8 Beta 2 download link from this page returns only a 0 Byte file...
I use XBMC on my HTPC and since I only get very poor performance with the free driver I wanted to give the closed one a try. But I'm suffering from heavy memory leaks under XBMC with the Beta 1...
Is there maybe a different download location for the driver? I only found pages offering it for Windows...

ivdok · 2013-08-22 17:42:08

mamamia88 wrote:

ivdok wrote:
mamamia88 wrote:
So I ordered a hd5450 off ebay for an older dell. Is the catalsyst driver or the open source driver reccomended for this card?
You like playing games like DotA 2 and CSS? Often play via Wine in you favorite 3D-game? Use catalyst and have pain because of slow update cycle.
You are more into Facebook, casual games and video with funny kittens on Youtube? Use FOSS, and get low 3D performance.
I plan on using it as an xbmc box and occassionally play games up to the n64 era via emulators. Maybe get a gamecube adaptor for using a gamecube controller. I don't really plan on playing current games on it because i have a ps3 and am getting a ps4 in a few months. The cpu is a dual core pentium d running at 3.4ghz. It was one of those dell mini towers that they use on college campuses and businesses that get refurbed and you can buy on ebay for $100.

You probably need stable catalyst + mandatory xvba-video package, if you want to watch HD video inside XBMC. And something like... VA-API for XBMC? Don't remember the name of package, but you gonna like it.

And1G wrote:

The Catalyst 13.8 Beta 2 download link from this page returns only a 0 Byte file...
I use XBMC on my HTPC and since I only get very poor performance with the free driver I wanted to give the closed one a try. But I'm suffering from heavy memory leaks under XBMC with the Beta 1...
Is there maybe a different download location for the driver? I only found pages offering it for Windows...

Specially for you - one-time offer! But please - try to DL it for next 24 hours - I tend to clean up my Dropbox once in a while.

And1G · 2013-08-22 18:04:04

Thank you very much! Downloaded the file, memory leak seems to be fixed, at least at first sight!

clfarron4 · 2013-08-22 18:28:53

@And1G

Cdh wrote:

Ok,
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd-ca … x86_64.zip gives an empty file, but
https://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd-c … x86_64.zip gives the correct file.

Last edited by clfarron4 (2013-08-22 18:29:17)

maroid · 2013-08-22 18:36:04

And1G wrote:

Thank you very much! Downloaded the file, memory leak seems to be fixed, at least at first sight!

Thank you reporting this. I can't remember when i installed anything manually the last time ... (

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