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#6376 2014-03-13 16:13:24

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

As for the 14.1 - I can see that I removed it from the repo too quickly... I didn't notice any problems, there should be no regression is such a small update, but if someone will confirm Jannis' problems I think I will reup 14.1 repo again (as an archive)

I tried to update to 14.2 again because of the mesa update and package split and I have the same problem. E.g. in TF2 on pl_frontier the framerate goes below 20fps when leaving blu's first spawn. Inside of the spawn and while looking at walls or the sky, the framerate is maxed out at 300. With 14.1 the average was somewhere over 130 so this is a really weird regression.

I have a Radeon HD 7870 and I'm running Kwin 4.11.7 and Plasma desktop 4.12.3. I have a second monitor attached and configured with KDE's Display control module. I'm running the game fullscreen on my primary monitor on medium settings without AA, vsync, blur and fancy shading.

Am I the only one experiencing this regression?

I might register on the cchtml bugtracker and create a bug report later today. Is there any special info I can provide to help track the issue down?

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#6377 2014-03-13 16:34:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

i downgraded to 3.13.6-1 kernel, the problem still remains. before the problem came i'd used 13.12-1 version of driver, end all was ok. but maybe there's a way to establish the work of 13.12-4.
i use hp pavilion g6, AMD A4 3300M with integrated Radeon HD 6480G, and discrete one is HD 6470M. By the way i use Gnome 3. Is it necessary to show any logs?

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#6378 2014-03-13 17:21:06

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Alexander wrote:

i use hp pavilion g6, AMD A4 3300M with integrated Radeon HD 6480G, and discrete one is HD 6470M. By the way i use Gnome 3. Is it necessary to show any logs?

Dear god, using GNOME3 that APU without the discrete 6470M is a f***ing nightmare, I swear (I know because I have the 6480G without the 6470M).

Alexander wrote:

When I try to change the brightness using fn-keys, a problem appears: my computer becomes too slow and i can't turn it off.

As far as I'm concerned, this a GNOME problem because MATE, MATE w/ Compiz 0.8, KDE, Unity, XFCE, LXDE, e16. e17 (I could go on) all work properly, and GNOME3 is the only desktop that I have these problems with.

Alexander wrote:

And when the notebook plugged in, the temperature of the graphic card increases to 70-73 oC, but normally it should be 43-45. Please give me some tip. Should I downgrade my driver?

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AMD A4 3300M with integrated Radeon HD 6480G, and discrete one is HD 6470M

The point that you have both an APU and a discrete GPU suggests you might want to use something like PowerXpress or vga_switcheroo to manage power management here, but I don't have the experience to help you here.


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#6379 2014-03-14 14:24:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

After upgrading Mesa and Catalyst, and a few other things such as the kernel, things are not working properly any longer.

X.org will mostly just terminate after lunch. When I say mostly it's because that running twm as root results in X staying alive. If I run it otherwise it just terminates (I have tried LightDM and Xfce.)

My log for X: http://bpaste.net/show/188832/

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#6380 2014-03-14 17:44:50

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

It turned out that my Xorg log has nothing to do with my troubles and that it was the catalyst-libgl package in the repo that wasn't working properly.

It seems that it tries to create symlinks with a hyphen "-" instead of a slash "/", so that the symlinks aren't working or not created at all.

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#6381 2014-03-14 20:08:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

could you be more specific? like which link is faulty?

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#6382 2014-03-15 00:02:25

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I'm not near my PC right now, but it was all the links to libraries in /usr/lib/mesa.

Something like libEGL.so -> mesa-libEGL.so.2.0.0 instead of mesa/libEGL.so.2.0.0.

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#6383 2014-03-15 04:17:05

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

could you be more specific? like which link is faulty?

In the PKGBUILD for mesa some files are moved:

mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGL.so* 	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/
mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so* 	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/
mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLES*.so*	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/

And in the catalyst test PKGBUILD, you have:

ln -s mesa-libEGL.so.1.0.0        "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so"
...
ln -s mesa-libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...
ln -s mesa-libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...

which should be

ln -s mesa/libEGL.so.1.0.0        "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so"
...
ln -s mesa/libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...
ln -s mesa/libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...

I'm not sure why the maintainer wouldn't have simply installed the files in the right place to prevent confusion with the file list, but there is probably a good reason.

Last edited by fiendfan1 (2014-03-15 04:18:54)

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#6384 2014-03-15 09:08:52

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I am still at a loss due to my problem. Maybe anyone has the same one? As I wrote earlier, after trying to change brightness using fn+f2 or fn+f3 the computer starts to heat, freeze and refuses to shutdown. It's strange that when I change brightnes clicking in upper-right corner and moving the relevant scroll bar, all is ok. and one more very strange fact: when i simply plug my competer in for recarge, I get the same bug! I can't even assume what is the problem, because before the system upgrade all worked fine with gnome 3.

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#6385 2014-03-15 09:22:33

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

and i can't find catalyst-utils 13.12-1 in aur anymore, but with this driver, as i remember, all was ok

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#6386 2014-03-15 09:32:13

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

fiendfan1 wrote:
Vi0L0 wrote:

could you be more specific? like which link is faulty?

In the PKGBUILD for mesa some files are moved:

mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGL.so* 	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/
mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so* 	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/
mv -v ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLES*.so*	${pkgdir}/usr/lib/mesa/

And in the catalyst test PKGBUILD, you have:

ln -s mesa-libEGL.so.1.0.0        "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so"
...
ln -s mesa-libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...
ln -s mesa-libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...

which should be

ln -s mesa/libEGL.so.1.0.0        "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libEGL.so"
...
ln -s mesa/libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...
ln -s mesa/libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0  "${pkgdir}/usr/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so"
...

I'm not sure why the maintainer wouldn't have simply installed the files in the right place to prevent confusion with the file list, but there is probably a good reason.

Ah yes, I can see it now, thanks for the info. But you are talking about mesa 10.1.0-4 from [testing], in [extra] there's still 10.1.0-2 version without those changes.
The name 'catalyst-test' doesn't mean that it's working with [testing], only that it brings latest beta/testing version of catalyst.
Right now I don't see the way of supporting both versions of mesa. And I don't want to duplicate all packages and repos only because of this little change - simply because I don't have that much time.
[testing] users would have to modify PKGBUILD on their own - it would be trivial copy paste from mesa-libgl.
Lets just hope that 10.1.0-4 would be moved to [extra] quickly because I will be afk from monday to friday...

Alexander wrote:

and i can't find catalyst-utils 13.12-1 in aur anymore, but with this driver, as i remember, all was ok

Not sure if it would help... but catalyst-utils-13.12-1.src.tar.gz is here: http://catalyst.wirephire.com/tarball/13.12-stable/
Just remember that this pkg don't work with mesa >= 10.1.0-2

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#6387 2014-03-15 09:58:29

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thanks, i'll try it

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#6388 2014-03-15 11:27:54

Alexander
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I installed catalyst 13.12-1 on my PC and now gnome refuses to work. During startup i see, as usual, output, then black screen, but then again output and black screen and so on periodically. What could go wrong? Maybe somebody has had the problem?

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#6389 2014-03-15 15:06:34

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

probably i missed mesa-10.0.2-1

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#6390 2014-03-15 15:45:51

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i've tried it, but thw problem still remains, so catalyst is not guilty) i'll try smth else. thank's for attention.

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#6391 2014-03-15 16:27:09

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

Lets just hope that 10.1.0-4 would be moved to [extra] quickly because I will be afk from monday to friday...

mesa 10.1.0-4 is in [extra] now.
Unfortunately I haven't the previous version in cache anymore so things are broken now, does anybody have a quick link to <10.1.0-2 mesa packages?

Last edited by signor_rossi (2014-03-15 16:28:04)

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#6392 2014-03-15 16:41:21

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

i'm updating pkgs right now...
anyhow you can probably get archive packages from ARM: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … ck_Machine

Edit: ok, i updated main repos and AUR packages: catalyst-test, catalyst-total, catalyst-total-hd234k. I left AUR's catalyst-utils and lib32-catalyst-utils untouched for now because i gotta go. WIll update those later (probably tomorrow)...

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#6393 2014-03-15 17:29:21

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Thanks for fixing things so fast!

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#6394 2014-03-15 19:50:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hi, I can't get the driver to work properly on my new Arch install.

When I start X the screen stop at "Loading extension GLX" and the computer seems to be frozen.

There aren't any errors in my Xorg.0.log, only those warnings :

(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported

My video card is an 7870. Any ideas ?

Last edited by sajuuk (2014-03-15 19:51:40)

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#6395 2014-03-18 11:00:45

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Catalyst 14.3 Beta V1.0 is out:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-article … river.aspx

Looks like, they only fixed the vlc crash. :-(

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#6396 2014-03-18 16:38:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

sajuuk wrote:

Hi, I can't get the driver to work properly on my new Arch install.

When I start X the screen stop at "Loading extension GLX" and the computer seems to be frozen.

There aren't any errors in my Xorg.0.log, only those warnings :

(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported

My video card is an 7870. Any ideas ?

Those are normal and you shouldn't worry too much about them.

What did you install to test X? Do you have a window manager?

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#6397 2014-03-18 19:41:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I use gnome and I tested X with twm-xterm-xclock.
Before installing catalyst I tried with radeon and everything was working fine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, the lasted version of the driver doesn't need to use an older version of X ?
I think I correctly blacklisted the radeon module and added nomodeset to the kernel options.
I'll check again to be sure.

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#6398 2014-03-19 05:56:27

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

The latest driver version works with X.org up to 1.15, the version currently in the repositories.
You don't need to blacklist the radeon module, but disabling KMS is required.

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#6399 2014-03-19 15:44:40

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Is there any way to get VAAPI, VDPA or any other video acceleration on Radeon HD3650 (RV635)?


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#6400 2014-03-19 17:18:41

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

cedeel wrote:

The latest driver version works with X.org up to 1.15, the version currently in the repositories.
You don't need to blacklist the radeon module, but disabling KMS is required.

Thanks for the help. I checked, KMS is disabled and the fglrx module is loaded. But when I run "fglrxinfo" I get "Error: unable to open display (null)".

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