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#126 2010-05-12 19:00:18

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

JohannesSM64 wrote:

Care to elaborate?

Well, I got used to Compiz/Kwin feature where you can choose one of few levels of focus stealing prevention level (none, low, medium...).

AFAIK there is no way to change it in OB to achieve anything different than default. Deep inside I hope you'd tell me I'm wrong, and I just didn't find it yet wink


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#127 2010-05-13 09:13:03

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Im back on it.........Its like a drug neutral


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#128 2010-05-13 11:56:59

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Well, it's still installed on my machine, but haven't used for ... uh ... ages. Since I moved to awesome actually. (Just looked up my pacman log. It was November 25th).

Still love it though. Definitely my all time favourite of the non-tiling WMs

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#129 2010-05-13 12:01:11

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

my history:

kde on suse
gnome on ubuntu
openbox on crunchbang
kde on arch <= definite destination!


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#130 2010-05-13 12:55:01

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

From Openbox to Musca to i3.

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#131 2010-05-13 13:41:59

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

left openbox for awesome about a month ago, haven't wanted to go back yet.

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#132 2010-05-13 14:55:05

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I Tried to love Openbox. I did. I gave it a couple months on my computer at one time. At first, I was like "This ain't to bad, and is pretty light." However I soon becaome bored with it.

Now that is not really saying alot with me because I am a compulsive wm-hopper addict. I often get tired of what I am using and go and play with something different. I have so many WM's installed it is not even funny anymore. However, I just never got that OMFGHCBBQ!" feeling with openbox. I just could never relate to what made it better than the similar WM, pekwm.. and others.

Now I suppose it could be because I am not a minimilist (tm). Now that is not to say that I necessarily want heavy graphic full fledged desktop environments, though I admit I do not have a big problem with any of them and actually like KDE and GNOME... but I also like many other WM's; e17, fluxbox, pekwm, and even JWM to an extent (it is just so darn customizeable.. but is also buggy). However with openbox I am always asking "Why can't it use simple pixmaps so I can have a unique window deco." Of course I understand that is not in the OB mantra, it is meant to be simple. I also always ask myself, why won't it do window grouping, or what is the point.. if you don't know XML there are these GUI's for it.. which kinda of makes it silly to me anyways.

*shrugs* I dunno.. I just never could love openbox, and am always surprised at the multitude of people who love it versus any of the other similar or even lighter wm's. So yeah, you can definetly say that I was able to leave openbox for good.

On a side note, I tried tiliers as well... but that is just not my cup of tea...


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#133 2010-05-13 17:47:26

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I leave openbox for good whenever I open one of its menus and press the right arrow key.

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#134 2010-05-13 19:40:10

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

lucke wrote:

I leave openbox for good whenever I open one of its menus and press the right arrow key.

That gave me a good laugh. I had to try it to see what you were talking about. Good thing I wasn't working on anything important.

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#135 2010-05-13 19:43:27

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

bazinga! tongue

it brings the question - how could I restart Openbox from tty? For Kwin it's as simple as "kwin --replace --display :0.0", however "--display" doesn't seem to work with openbox command.


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#136 2010-05-13 19:55:08

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

vi3dr0 wrote:

bazinga! tongue

it brings the question - how could I restart Openbox from tty? For Kwin it's as simple as "kwin --replace --display :0.0", however "--display" doesn't seem to work with openbox command.

DISPLAY=:0 openbox --replace

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#137 2010-05-13 19:57:11

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Since I started out with Arch, I've used openbox till about a year ago (maybe longer). I've started using Awesome since then. It does everything I like, it tiles my windows, I can choose different layouts depending on the program or the tag. I have a menu available but mostly I call the build-in run dialog and enter a command. I don't use a lot of terminals as some think would be the reason to use tiling WMs. It is basicly the same as openbox I think, except I don't have to search for some good working panel and it tiles.

In the end, I really left openbox for good. I'm not planning to use any other WM atm. I've tried different tiling WMs too, but Awesome is ... well just Awesome. big_smile

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#138 2010-05-13 19:58:05

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Dzięki lucke wink

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#139 2010-05-13 21:22:45

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

lucke wrote:

I leave openbox for good whenever I open one of its menus and press the right arrow key.

I hate you sad Now I've got to recheck all torrents cause Deluge messed up the session info due to an ungraceful shutdown tongue

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#140 2010-05-14 14:09:44

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

15:35:10 JohannesSM64 | whenever i open a menu and press the right arrow key, OB instantly crashes
15:35:19 JohannesSM64 | this is known, right?
15:36:06      Mikachu | yeah
15:47:47        CIA-4 | openbox: mikachu 3.4-working * r5416633ea897 /openbox/event.c: don't dereference NULL
                      | pointer when there is nothing selected and pressing right
15:48:49      Mikachu | looks like dana only fixed it in the master branch
15:58:44        CIA-4 | openbox: mikachu 3.4-working * r714bed593263 /po/ (et.po pt.po): Merge branch 'backport'
                      | into 3.4
15:58:45        CIA-4 | openbox: althaser backport * re42d9ca92952 /po/pt.po: Update portuguese translation
16:01:17        CIA-4 | openbox: mikachu refs/tags/release-3.4.11.2 * rrefs/tags/re /: forced update
16:05:34        CIA-4 | openbox: mikachu refs/tags/release-3.4.11.2 * rc80fbcfde2af /: forced update
16:05:52      Mikachu | maybe i should do stuff like change the version number and put in a changelog too
16:06:14     mulberry | blue sky thinking
16:09:07        CIA-4 | openbox: mikachu refs/tags/release-3.4.11.2 * rrefs/tags/re /: forced update
16:09:11      Mikachu | yeah i know, completely crazy

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#141 2010-05-14 16:22:14

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I was a big GNOME guy for a while but in my neverending quest for the perfect balance of simplicity/efficiency I've found I myself very comfortable in OB. I've been messing around with compiz standalone WM but there's something about OB that just feels... cozy. smile

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#142 2010-05-14 17:56:16

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Left ob for xmonad, never looked back.


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#143 2010-05-14 18:23:15

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I also left OB for XMonad, and there is no turning back now. Actually I went back to OB yesterday to get a change in environment, it took me 10 minutes and I was back in XMonad. Don't get me wrong, I really like(d) OpenBox, but it just don't do it for me anymore.. I've become a tiling addict!


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#144 2010-05-14 18:35:37

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Revolt wrote:
lucke wrote:

I leave openbox for good whenever I open one of its menus and press the right arrow key.

I hate you sad Now I've got to recheck all torrents cause Deluge messed up the session info due to an ungraceful shutdown tongue

Yeah I hate you too lucke. Next time give us a warning. Also is that a bug in Openbox or...?

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#145 2010-05-14 18:53:56

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

anonymous_user wrote:

Also is that a bug in Openbox or...?

Read my last post.

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#146 2010-05-14 19:25:18

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I use xmonad, and i never intend on going back to open box.  however, as far as floating WM's go, openbox is chock full of win and awesomeness.
the amount of configuration available is mind-numbing and super cool.  I could totally understand everyone loving it. 

I still use openbox for my guest/family accounts, wouldn't have anything else.

Last edited by Cyrusm (2010-05-14 19:27:34)


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#147 2010-05-14 21:00:53

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

OT:
xmonad is the only (often recommended) tiling wm i didn't really test because the installed size would be ~500 mb. I guess there's no way around installing haskell?

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#148 2010-05-14 21:12:56

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

Cyrusm wrote:

I use xmonad, and i never intend on going back to open box.  however, as far as floating WM's go, openbox is chock full of win and awesomeness.
the amount of configuration available is mind-numbing and super cool.  I could totally understand everyone loving it. 

I still use openbox for my guest/family accounts, wouldn't have anything else.

this is pretty much my sentiments exactly.  i used openbox forever and loved it. after setting up stiler (precursor to PyTyle), i realized the benefits of a tiled setup.  i fell in love with out-of-the-box xmonad almost instantly -- it just made sense.

then once i started learning more haskell and configuring everything with such elegance and precision (complimenting the language, not my haskell skills...), there's just no way i'll ever use anything else.

i'm finding myself jammed up more and more when on my work pc.  hitting M-w then staring blankly at my left monitor wondering why my keystrokes aren't being recognized...

i don't get the whole stigma around the filesize dep.  0.5GB just doesn't bother me that much... oh well.

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#149 2010-05-14 21:19:38

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I have a rather small SSD and my root is only 3 GB total so 500 MB make a real difference for me tongue.

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#150 2010-05-18 03:36:25

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Re: Has anyone ever been able to leave openbox for good?

I've been an Openbox guy for a while now, but I have looked and tried out a few tiling WMs, as well as KDE4.

I focused on Awesome because of its use of Lua, but in the end, tiling just doesn't suit me most of the time. I guess with terminals it's fine, but otherwise it's less than ideal. Not everything is bad, of course, but Openbox just feels very clean and out-of-my-way until I need it to do something, and it does that something very well (nicely configured, of course).

KDE4 is quite usable right now, but it can still use some more polish. I'm sure it'll be a very nice option at that point (if you don't mind its girth), but right now I'll just keep an eye on it.

So, once I get my desktop to start behaving again, it'll run Openbox. Nothing new here: it just works for me.

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