Xorg won't start.

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 00:16:41

l33tunderground wrote:

@Barrucadu:
How did you recreate the Xorg.conf?
Xorg -configure
has always had good results for me.
I assume that you are not doing this, as there are modes specified in your xorg.conf

If this question is addressed to me, I blew away the old xorg.conf and created it from scratch, initially using sudo Xorg -configure. Then I ran nvidia-settings to get the settings I wanted, i.e., no twin screen etc.

Barrucadu · 2008-12-01 00:18:11

I do X -configure, followed by aticonfig --initial --input=/path/to/xorg.conf.new. The only manual changes I do are adding a folder for fonts, changing the defaultdepth to 24, and adding the 1280x800 mode.

mutlu_inek · 2008-12-01 00:18:15

azleifel wrote:

No, you're not alone. I cannot get X to start with the nvidia driver.

There is an announcement to the effect that some nvidia drivers do not work WITH Xorg 1.5.

Last edited by mutlu_inek (2008-12-01 10:51:59)

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 00:27:09

If there's an announcement to that effect, I can't see it. Link please?

Barrucadu · 2008-12-01 00:28:10

jamesbannon wrote:

If there's an announcement to that effect, I can't see it. Link please?

On the index page, or here: http://www.archlinux.org/news/424/

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 00:49:25

Thanks. Doesn't affect me, thankfully!

iBertus · 2008-12-01 01:52:52

I can't even get X to load WITH the newest beta nvidia drivers.

alexmatos · 2008-12-01 02:41:07

I'm still having problems with this Xorg update. I removed the 'RgbPath' thing and could load X, but when I did, all characters where replaced by squares. I tryed adding the

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option       "AutoAddDevices" "false"
EndSection

but that didn't work. I then realized that my xorg.conf's "Files" section didn't have anything inside of it. So I copied it from jamesbannon file:

Section "Files"
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

unfortunatelly, it didn't work either. Maybe I should rebuild the X font index or something like that, but I don't know how. Any ideas?

EDIT:
I was wrong. I tryed regenerating font cache with

fc-cache -fv

but it didn't work. I'm getting really tired of this squares!!! They make my computer unusable (I'm using another one to post this). Can anybody help me?

Last edited by alexmatos (2008-12-01 03:03:14)

iBertus · 2008-12-01 03:24:56

I'm really starting to get aggravated by this update. I can't seem to get it fixed with any of the solutions I've found on the internet. I'm trying to use nvidia 180.08 and it doesn't work. With or without xorg.conf all I get is a message about "no screens detected." The nvidia driver is listed as being loaded in Xorg.log but never says what device is present.

josenj · 2008-12-01 04:49:50

hwd -x needs to be updated to generate a xorg.conf file so that it doesn't output the "RgbPath" line

Rincewind · 2008-12-01 08:18:28

Hi, I tried everything I could find in forums and finally I got it working (i.e. I finally CAN start X server). I cannot recall all steps I made and cannot explain "why", still here is what I think was the answer:

Run (as root):
Xorg -configure
hwd -x

Then:
- move/copy one of the generated xorg.conf.something files into proper xorg.conf
- edit/remove the line with Rgb path
- ...and then hopefully: startx

Anything I did (remove Rgb path in xorg.conf, run hwd -x, do something with new "hotplugging" feature) until I made these steps (in this order) did not work.

fettouhi · 2008-12-01 09:10:12

Why is X giving this error for the rgb path at all. Is it deprecated in the new xserver (1.5.x)?

Regards

André

alexmatos · 2008-12-01 11:07:11

I finally got rid of those damn squares! It was a pango related problem. I reinstalled both gnome and pango (pacman -S gnome pango), rebooted and things got back to normal.

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 11:49:00

Yeah, GNOME went belly up on me as well. All sorts of weird behaviour from the applets I had loaded, the keyboard and sound. I had to reinstall the lot.

ETA: I should add that I had Ultimate GNOME theme installed and set as my default icon theme, so this may have caused some of my issues. Even when I switched to Tango, though, I still had the keyboard problems.

Another update. The following also works:

1. Install hwd from extras.

2. Run the command

sudo hwd -u

to update the hal devices list.

3. Comment out the line

Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"

from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

4. Set the keyboard type to Evdev-managed keyboard in the keyboard settings dialogue.

5. Restart the X server and login using gdm. The keyboard will now be set to US.

6. Change the layout to the preferred layout (in my case United Kingdom).

7. Restart the X server again.

These steps worked for me, so they may work for others.

Last edited by jamesbannon (2008-12-01 12:19:37)

xer0 · 2008-12-01 16:00:32

Great! Got my X up and running again, but my touchpad is dead and the keymap is f*cked up... the later is probably because i have i swedish keyboard, and the new verison of xorg seems to be ignoring my options in the xorg config file. What is this? Did they replace some config options without leaving legacy support for the old ones?

xer0 · 2008-12-01 18:31:16

Everytinhg wokrs now.. except that the arrowkeys are dead .. can't get them to work.

Windowlicker · 2008-12-01 18:39:56

dwm borders are now transparent, and the VC freezes when I kill X.

Edit: Changing the colour depth to 24 bit fixed the transparent border issue.

Last edited by Windowlicker (2008-12-01 20:48:52)

De Mysteriis · 2008-12-01 19:09:16

Xorg -configure doesn't work anymore for me. I'm using a Radeon 9550 card with fglrx driver and every time it errors out and doesn't write a xorg.conf.new file.

Procyon · 2008-12-01 19:12:04

Windowlicker wrote:

dwm borders are now transparent, and the computer freezes when I kill X.

My computer freezes too after closing X, I made a thread about it, could you see if what I wrote there happens to you too? http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59956

jamesbannon · 2008-12-01 19:32:31

xer0 wrote:

Great! Got my X up and running again, but my touchpad is dead and the keymap is f*cked up... the later is probably because i have i swedish keyboard, and the new verison of xorg seems to be ignoring my options in the xorg config file. What is this? Did they replace some config options without leaving legacy support for the old ones?

I think maybe the ABI changed with this new release, so that it could use hal.

azleifel · 2008-12-01 20:03:30

mutlu_inek wrote:

azleifel wrote:
No, you're not alone. I cannot get X to start with the nvidia driver.
There is an announcement to the effect that some nvidia drivers do not work WITH Xorg 1.5.

Like a good Arch citizen, I read the announcement before I updated. It doesn't apply to the version of the nvidia driver I have installed:

local/nvidia 177.82-1

rine · 2008-12-02 21:21:24

Sakurina wrote:

I removed the line but xmonad isn't even able to tile windows anymore. Yet key bindings for dmenu, epiphany and what have you all work. I might have to switch to another WM in the meantime it seems.
edit: Actually, it seems that xmonad is just not tiling urxvt anymore, every other app tiles fine. My trackpad also doesn't work now. Is there any command to go back to the old X packages?
edit2: So seemingly, it was something in my .Xdefaults that made urxvt misbehave. Now I just need to get my trackpad back.
edit3: Arrow keys are dead. Yay.

Would have been nice if you said what it was. Had the same problem. The Problematic line was
URxvt*borderLess: true

Last of the Wolves · 2008-12-03 21:55:47

@Barrucadu:

Have you solved the Problem? I also had problems with X after upgrading. If I'm right the problem could be the line:

   Load  "record"

. I just started X as root and got an error-message with that package so I quoted the line out and after fixing some other problems I got it.

Greetings
Last of the Wolves

redefine · 2008-12-04 01:32:51

hi, i got x to work after creating a new config file with X -config, but now the keyboard shortcuts with compiz wont work (the xfce shortcuts do). and i cant click with the touchpad, everything else is fine. does anyone know why?

alexmatos · 2008-12-04 01:42:06

redefine wrote:

hi, i got x to work after creating a new config file with X -config, but now the keyboard shortcuts with compiz wont work (the xfce shortcuts do). and i cant click with the touchpad, everything else is fine. does anyone know why?

My touchpad's button works, but tapping doesn't!

This update is worst than I thought! So far I've had the following issues:

* X wouldn't start -- SOLVED
* Keyboard configuration was not right -- SOLVED
* All characters in X were replaced by squares -- SOLVED
* Suspend and Hibernate buttons were missing -- SOLVED
* Touchpad tapping doesn't work

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