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#76 2009-01-24 18:53:14

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Re: Midori rocks

Bonzodog wrote:

I am writing this from midori 0.1.1, and its stable and fast. I am impressed by it. The only thing that keeps me using firefox is the extensions I use, like Greasemonkey, and a few others.

midori supports user scripts, that means it can do just about any greasemonkey script.


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#77 2009-01-24 21:43:08

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Re: Midori rocks

ahronzombi wrote:

It is far too hard to get bookmarklets to work, and flash seems to intermittently crash the browser i think. when its stable it will be kick ass, i wish it was not.

wait another 6 month for the thing to improve, see if it will be really useful.

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#78 2009-01-24 22:53:47

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Re: Midori rocks

ahronzombi wrote:

midori supports user scripts, that means it can do just about any greasemonkey script.

Are you sure? I would love to get hqtube to run, but it doesn't work, although gecko-mediaplayer works, so that's not the reason. I guess some greasemonkey scripts depend on gecko, so they won't run with webkit.

My experience with midori + libsoup is, that it's really very unstable, almost like when I started using it every now and then to see its development. I still prefer it to be stable over being able to save cookies. So AndyRTR, please don't build midori and libwebkit with libsoup yet, it's too early!

I really start loving midori, just found out, that it can do some basic mouse gestures smile gecko-mediaplayer is supported and it is still fast like hell and more and more not so well written pages work better and better. The only thing I miss right now are noscript, 100% greasemonkey support and I also love stylish. There are other ways to keep ads out, so adblock is not in this list.

Midori rocks!!! wink

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#79 2009-01-24 23:09:22

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Re: Midori rocks

Army wrote:

So AndyRTR, please don't build midori and libwebkit with libsoup yet, it's too early!

without libsoup there's no https support. so I'll keep using it.

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#80 2009-01-25 11:15:22

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Re: Midori rocks

https works pretty well here, when I use webkitgtk-svn and midori-git from AUR (both unchanged). But libsoup is installed on my system, because mpdscribble-git depends on it. Could that be the reason, that https works for me and not for you? Seems like webkit uses libsoup, even if not configured.

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#81 2009-02-05 02:42:13

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Re: Midori rocks

Latest build (20090204 midori-git and 40653 webkitgtk-svn) breaks for me with the sidebar, then it won't restart after crashing.


20090116 midori-git worked pretty damn good when I made it with libwebkit-git 20090116.

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#82 2009-02-05 06:41:46

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Re: Midori rocks

I can understand that the developers want to make it as stable as possible before implementing new feauters.  Although some feauters are important to implement asap.
Password managment is one of those, and would greatly increase the users base and thus increase testing.

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#83 2009-02-05 08:59:46

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Re: Midori rocks

both git versions of libwebkit and midori doesn't have big advantages over the libwebkit nightly and midori release builds. currently the most big missing features are based on the unstable libsoup 2.25.x - you will understand that I cannot base my builds for extra on it until the next Gnome release happens.

but feel free to use the unstable libsoup yourself and report how it goes.

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#84 2009-02-05 11:16:04

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Re: Midori rocks

With libsoup 2.25.4 it's pretty stable, but not as stable as with curl, so I switched back. Didn't have a single crash with curl so far, even with heavy browsing, really amazing!

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#85 2009-02-06 19:49:07

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Re: Midori rocks

Wow...I just wanna say thanks for those of you who mentioned firefox and vimperator...i was intrigued by the prefix "vim" on vimperator and checked it out...Ive been using it about 20 minutes but love it so far.

to contribute more directly to the thread, I tried out midori and arora alike, but neither had quite enough to pull me away from firefox and opera.... admittedly, i like the arora look much mroe than midori.  but both feel a bit faster than firefox and on par with opera in terms of speed.

i will be keeping an eye on these for future reference though, both seem to have some significant promise.

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#86 2009-02-06 20:23:24

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Re: Midori rocks

i keep getting segfaults when I try to watch flash videos in midori.  Oh well, back to firefox...

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#87 2009-02-07 16:44:09

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Re: Midori rocks

Hmm, strange, Flash works great here with midori and even doesn't really crash even on sites with many flash ads. I've been using midori as my default browser for a week now and I'm really satisfied with its abilities and stability, let's see, if I ever install firefox again wink

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#88 2009-02-07 16:56:22

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Re: Midori rocks

It's strange, I can't get Midori to work more than five minutes without crashing. This is true if I use the version from the repos or build it myself.

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#89 2009-02-07 20:17:24

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Re: Midori rocks

skottish wrote:

It's strange, I can't get Midori to work more than five minutes without crashing. This is true if I use the version from the repos or build it myself.

I can, as long as I don't try downloading anything (or click links that lead to non-displayable content like tarballs, etc. that should get downloaded). It's a promising browser, though.

But I've just built Firefox-hg from the AUR, so I don't care right now. tongue


0 Ok, 0:1

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#90 2009-02-07 20:47:56

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Re: Midori rocks

@skottish, did you try to compile webkit without --with-http-backend=soup ? Currently I switch between two versions, first one is compile webkit WITH that line and have libsoup 2.25.4 installed and second one without this line and without libsoup as dependency. The latter is much more stable, but lacks some features of course.

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#91 2009-02-09 00:03:30

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Re: Midori rocks

Army wrote:

@skottish, did you try to compile webkit without --with-http-backend=soup ? Currently I switch between two versions, first one is compile webkit WITH that line and have libsoup 2.25.4 installed and second one without this line and without libsoup as dependency. The latter is much more stable, but lacks some features of course.

Yes. I've had all sorts of different versions compiled in different ways with different versions of dependencies. I've had at least 20 builds of webkit and midori since I started. I'd really like to see this browser work, so I keep trying.

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#92 2009-02-09 00:16:07

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Re: Midori rocks

skottish wrote:

I've had all sorts of different versions compiled in different ways with different versions of dependencies. I've had at least 20 builds of webkit and midori since I started. I'd really like to see this browser work, so I keep trying.

lol, Exactly the same comment here.  (maybe only 15  smile  )

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#93 2009-02-18 02:57:00

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Re: Midori rocks

I just built mdiori-git 20090217 and webkitgtk-svn 41046 and it really looks nice with my murrine theme. It's working pretty good with some sites, but it crashes when logging out of a forum. It still doesn't save cookies and it gives me an error when using a java web applet:

pictures of the sidebar console error messages:

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr16 … hot-61.png
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr16 … hot-60.png


The java web applet loaded properly, but I couldn't access my files to upload pictures because it didn't access my filesystem.

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#94 2009-02-18 03:52:01

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Re: Midori rocks

After the bruhaha about wine+firefox being faster than native linux firefox, I tried the same benchmark for midori and it's javascript engine is ten (10!) times faster than firefox's. Hot damn. If only it wouldn't crash all the time and supported vimperator, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

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#95 2009-02-18 08:13:28

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Re: Midori rocks

scj wrote:

After the bruhaha about wine+firefox being faster than native linux firefox, I tried the same benchmark for midori and it's javascript engine is ten (10!) times faster than firefox's. Hot damn. If only it wouldn't crash all the time and supported vimperator, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

Same here. Still fiddling with the plugin interface to see if something like vimperator is even remotely possible at the moment...

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#96 2009-02-18 08:25:17

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Re: Midori rocks

What I read we will get cookies with new Gnome 2.26 libsoup and Gnome 2.28 will bring us probably the first "stable" gtk branch.

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#97 2009-02-22 23:48:19

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Re: Midori rocks

Holy cow.. I am using midori 0.1.2-1 from the Extra repo... this browser is amazingly fast!  Wow!!!  I now wonder if things like adblock work?  I haven't really read through this thread yet...

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#98 2009-02-23 00:07:05

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Re: Midori rocks

I tried Midori a few days ago and it always crashed when I tried to open a youtube video..


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#99 2009-02-23 00:34:14

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Re: Midori rocks

moljac024 wrote:

I tried Midori a few days ago and it always crashed when I tried to open a youtube video..

Strange.  Did you use the git or the one from arch repo's?

P.S. I just realized my RAM is running like 10% (200mb!) lower with Midori over firefox.

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#100 2009-02-23 17:52:49

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Re: Midori rocks

midori crashing all the time here, arora seems to be working pretty well though, fast and stable.

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