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#576 2010-07-05 18:06:27

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

That might be the case, since I had my Xbmc builds breaking on libvpx too (built on my regular system with libvpx installed, not on a chroot). When I installed the package on my AppleTV Xbmc would refuse to start because it didn't find libvpx.

As for not being able to play movies, even with the faad hack the internal libav* files have a lot of unresolved symbols. Maybe it was a specific revision spykos was having a problem with, I cannot tell. I never had libvpx at the center of playback problems though; if I had playback issues, it was caused by the faad stuff. Libvpx missing would just mean Xbmc wouldn't launch altogether.

I also noticed (thanks to the chroot tongue) that xbmc now somehow depends on fontconfig (which in turn needs freetype2). The tre dependency can be dropped, according to some Gentoo bug report I found from 2009. I'll report how my chroot behaves without it.

This is what configure reports with the build that's going on now:

checking for main in -lvpx... no

And as for the fontconfig dependency:

checking for FONTCONFIG... yes

Maybe you already know, but I only recently found out that the uppercase ones are the absolute minimal requirements, while most (maybe all?) lowercase ones configure checks for are 'optional'.


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#577 2010-07-05 18:16:37

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

I can live with libvpx as a dep (depends only on glibc). Sure, this is perhaps not intended if one wants to test the internal libvpx.
PS: Almost everything graphical (with X) depends somehow on fontconfig...
PPS: Thanks .:B:. ! I'll take a look at the -libvx switch
PPS: This is for you .:B:. :

XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base:#  libvpx build script.
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base-#
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base:#  A quick and dirty Makefile to download and build libvpx
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base-#
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base:#  Darwin: libvpx is built as an static lib for linkage with FFmpeg.
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base-#  x86-darwin8-gcc is targeted so we can run on the AppleTV.
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base-#  prefix is /opt/local so XBMC's build system will pick it up.
XBMC/lib/libvpx/.svn/text-base/Makefile.svn-base-#

I ran a short "grep -C 10 -R libvpx" on the XBMC dir and this came out. It seems this is limited to AppleTV.

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#578 2010-07-05 19:02:56

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

People using CrystalHD should be using r31634 btw, since 31632 (and maybe older builds too) breaks on CrystalHD:

CrystalHD.cpp: In constructor 'CCrystalHD::CCrystalHD()':
CrystalHD.cpp:964:17: error: 'OUTPUT_MODE420' is not a member of 'BCM'
make[1]: *** [CrystalHD.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/src/XBMC/xbmc/cores/dvdplayer/DVDCodecs/Video'
make: *** [xbmc/cores/dvdplayer/DVDCodecs/Video/Video.a] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....

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#579 2010-07-05 19:04:52

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

CrystalHD.cpp:
http://xbmc.git.sourceforge.net/git/git … c567d09208

PS: @.:B:. On which machine do you have the chroot?
On AppleTV?

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#580 2010-07-05 19:24:46

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

No, I'm not crazy tongue. I have it on my laptop. I'm using ccache also, it builds rather quickly given the rather low specs (1,2 GHz Core 2 Duo). The clean chroot uses a little less than 600 MB by itself.

Btw does anybody have a clue what libmodplug is used for? The package description doesn't really shed a light, and I just tested - while Xbmc needs libmodplug to build, it doesn't seem bothered by libmodplug's absence when you start it. Almost sounds like a makedepends?


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#581 2010-07-05 20:13:03

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

.:B:. wrote:

No, I'm not crazy . I have it on my laptop. I'm using ccache also, it builds rather quickly given the rather low specs (1,2 GHz Core 2 Duo). The clean chroot uses a little less than 600 MB by itself.

Perhaps I'll set up a chroot env later (some day... big_smile).

.:B:. wrote:

Btw does anybody have a clue what libmodplug is used for? The package description doesn't really shed a light, and I just tested - while Xbmc needs libmodplug to build, it doesn't seem bothered by libmodplug's absence when you start it. Almost sounds like a makedepends?

http://modplug-xmms.sourceforge.net/screenshot.jpeg
It seems like a file metadata/info extractor and seems to add some audio functionality (like bass booster, etc).

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#582 2010-07-05 20:37:22

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

I was a bit wary too at first, but the scripts in the devtools package will have you up and running in a few minutes smile.


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#583 2010-07-06 08:00:18

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

libmodplug add support for mods file (you know the old format used by oldtimer demo & game makers, fasttracker .xm .mod & so smile )

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#584 2010-07-06 08:03:46

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Thanks smile. I can yank it out then tongue. Namcap said it really wasn't a dependency (like it says about some other dependencies...), hence why I removed it. Looks like quite a bit of them are buildtime dependencies, or optdepends (if you want the added functionality).


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#585 2010-07-06 09:11:31

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

I'm having a lot of trouble installing this. The package doesn't mention dependencies for automake and autoconf, and I don't have a clue how to update it to show this.

After figuring that out though, I am facing this problem:

configure.ac:33: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DEFINE

And I'm not sure what to do. Any ideas?

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#586 2010-07-06 09:21:58

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Are you using autoconf 2.66 by any chance (in [testing])? If so, revert to 2.65 from [current].

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20060


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#587 2010-07-06 09:27:59

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Nope, using 2.65 from current.

[root@media xbmc]# pacman -Q | grep autoconf
autoconf 2.65-2

Really frustrating. I read that xbmc 9.11 is "really old" compared to the SVN stuff as they don't do proper releases very often, so I wanted to move over to the SVN version for a more up-to-date XBMC. Oh well. If I find a fix for it, I'll put it up here. For the record, the revision I'm having this problem on is 31632.

Edit: The problem was not having pkg-config installed. A guy on the XBMC forums helped me. Good bunch!

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#588 2010-07-06 10:03:18

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

@Hiram:
First, when you want to compile anything on Arch you always need the "base-devel" group ("pacman -S base-devel"). This is not related to this package.
"base-devel" is a dependency for almost all AUR packages.
Second: if you want to use xmbc-svn as a replacement for the stable xbmc, you should be aware that most of the old functionality will be broken, ie custom skins will not work, the svn plugin installer won't work either.

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#589 2010-07-06 10:25:45

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Thanks for that DonVla, good to know! I'll remember that for next time big_smile

Thanks for the tip about old functionality being broken and missing the plugin installer. I've only been using the stable release for about 3 days, so I don't have any thing worthwhile on there except a few videos.

But oh well, if the svn release is too broken for me to use, I'll just go back to the stable.

Thanks!

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#590 2010-07-06 10:53:11

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Most features are fairly stable at the moment, if you ask me. After all we're supposed to be closing in on a new release (10.05) ...


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#591 2010-07-06 10:59:47

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Hiram wrote:

But oh well, if the svn release is too broken for me to use, I'll just go back to the stable.

Just be aware that the video library structure in the recent revisions isn't backwards compatible, so you'd probably have to export your library database first if you wanted to go back.


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#592 2010-07-06 11:09:17

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

@Hiram:
Yes, "Broken" was the wrong word. It simply changed.
The plugin and skin interface chnaged to a more versatile addon infrastructure. It can be found under "System->Addons".
External skin packages aren't needed anymore. You can download and install new skins internally through the xbmc interface.
Movie files run smoothly, so you can try an upgrade.

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#593 2010-07-06 11:32:33

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Haha yes I didn't quite mean broken either. Simply, changes need to be made to make older work with the new system. Like any software supporting third party plugins and the like, really.

I'll be glad when it finally finishes compiling though. It seems there is quite a difference between the stable and svn release from what I've read.

Thanks eirik for letting the info on the library structure changing! I was hoping I'd just be able to import it into the new system. Oh well.

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#594 2010-07-06 13:21:04

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Hiram wrote:

Thanks eirik for letting the info on the library structure changing! I was hoping I'd just be able to import it into the new system. Oh well.

Oh no, sorry for making things seem worse than they actually are. When you run the recent revisions with an old database, it'll be updated automatically and work just fine, but if you decided to go back again, the updated library database wouldn't work on the current stable XBMC. If you're going to check out the xbmc-svn, you might want to backup your .xbmc folder before doing your testing, so that you would have the opportunity to revert back in case the new build proved to be unstable.

That being said, the only problem I've been experiencing recently is fanart fetching from TVDB being somewhat unstable, but that might as well have been fixed in a scraper update I haven't managed to fetch down yet.


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#595 2010-07-10 07:31:17

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

eirik wrote:

Oh no, sorry for making things seem worse than they actually are. When you run the recent revisions with an old database, it'll be updated automatically and work just fine

On my end going from 30754 or something to 31634 my library just got wiped.... In fact all my settings got wiped. Not too bothered though, it needed a good cleanup!

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#596 2010-07-10 14:19:41

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

brendan wrote:
eirik wrote:

Oh no, sorry for making things seem worse than they actually are. When you run the recent revisions with an old database, it'll be updated automatically and work just fine

On my end going from 30754 or something to 31634 my library just got wiped.... In fact all my settings got wiped. Not too bothered though, it needed a good cleanup!

Thanks for the report. I seem to have made the jump past that revision without any problems, but this'll remind me to be more careful in the future.


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#597 2010-07-12 18:43:47

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Hi folks smile

I'm reading here for a long time but I allways got my problems fixed by myself dince now.So first thanks for your work on xbmc/arch, this thread and your support.  I'm using the yaourt xbmc-svn since 2009 and never get this bug before. I did a system upgrade last month and I got 100% CPU everytime it is idle. I tried some things I found in the xbmc forum (deaktivate vertical sync, use another nvidia driver) but nothing helps. If I start a film or music everythings fine. But when I see the main screen without any media running it's 100% (or with Hyper Threading cpu0: ~25, cpu1: ~90%). I tried different older xbmc versions with different nvidia drivers but no change.

Here my pc setup:

- Pentium 4 2,8GHZ HT
- 1GB DDR Ram
- Fujitsu Siemens D1516 with intel chipset
- Nvidia 8400GS PCI (non PCI-e)
- Sound via Aureon USB

Soft:

- kernel26 2.6.34.1-1
- nvidia 256.35-1
- xbmc-svn 31726
- xorg-server 1.8.1.902-1

Anything missing? Just let me know smile

Any ideas - am I the only one with this bug on arch?

I've tried much older xbmc versions which worked before without problems and I treid also the nvidia drivers: 195.30, 195.25, 1.7x (from yaourt). Allways the same problems. I have no more ideas....

Best regards
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#598 2010-07-12 22:36:49

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Atechsystem wrote:

But when I see the main screen without any media running it's 100% (or with Hyper Threading cpu0: ~25, cpu1: ~90%). I tried different older xbmc versions with different nvidia drivers but no change.

Yop Atechsystem, sorry if you already tried that  but :
- look at .xbmc/temp/xbmc.log (try enabling debug if nothing catch your attention. Last time i've seen 100% cpu, xbmc was filling logs very fast)
-   try with a blank ~/.xbmc dir

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#599 2010-07-13 07:34:21

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

Hi tidalf,

yes I allready tried that but forget to write it down here. The log says nothing aboutthis error, even the debug mode brings no more error messages. I wish I've never made this upgrade hmm

Thanks for your reply smile

Regards
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#600 2010-07-14 10:52:50

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Re: xbmc-git AUR package: discussion in here please

@Atechsystem:
First, welcome to the forums!
Try the new revision. They changed some stuff.
@All:
The makefile patch isn't needed anymore since they upgraded ffmpeg (http://xbmc.git.sourceforge.net/git/git … 7733170b27)
However, I still have this flickering problem. I made a screencast with what I mena. Here it is: www.nakamura-gebiet.de/flicker.ogv
As you see before the movie starts playing the background flickers for 5secs.

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