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#26 2009-09-04 22:41:28

tomd123
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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

One reason for using terminal apps is because they KISS.

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#27 2009-09-04 22:54:08

Acecero
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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Ranguvar wrote:

Both have their advantages, but the console is overall far more flexible and much lighter, so it's preferable except where the GUI offers some specific advantage.

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#28 2009-09-05 10:28:41

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

To me it is no fetish behavior in often using terminal apps.
However it depends.
If its a lazy job, just keeping scrolling and clicking around without any real keyboard need (as for e.g. lazy web browsing or viewing a pdf), I clearly prefer a GUI. But on keyboard-centric tasks nothing beats a terminal application (or a GUI with properly designed shortcuts, preferably vi-like for me).


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#29 2009-09-05 14:17:10

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

I prefer terminal apps (apps with no GUI) because of the speed that they provide you.
And the simplicity of course. Simplicity Does Matter (TM).


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#30 2009-09-05 14:37:26

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

tomd123 wrote:

One reason for using terminal apps is because they KISS.

cool

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#31 2009-09-05 15:25:59

Renan Birck
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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

The speed, the convenience (if X goes down/crashes, screen can 'hold' the session and I can ssh to the machine and continue from where I stopped), the lack of need for a mouse (useful when you don't have one handy and hate touchpads).

Just that. Of course YMMV.

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#32 2009-09-05 16:16:36

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

I ended up using more terminal apps because I grew tired of things popping up, stealing focus from what I'm doing, and forcing me to pay attention to what the GUI designers think that I should be paying attention to:

"Are you sure...?"

Thinking for me isn't helpful for my work flow. It's one of the many things that makes Windows unbearable as a DE. In the process of looking for replacements I started to find one-to-one, or many times greater, replacements for apps.

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#33 2009-09-05 17:02:40

pauldonnelly
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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

tomd123 wrote:

One reason for using terminal apps is because they KISS.

Yeah, this is why I use the terminal so much. Believe me, I'd love to use GUI programs instead, but they usually manage to be even more awkward than terminal apps. Plus GUI programs don't integrate well with the command line.

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#34 2009-09-05 18:05:00

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

any of you can give an example of your favorite terminal applications for everyday use?
ej: web - mail (gmail) - im - view pictures - file manager, etc

While I know and use many of them, I would like some advice

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#35 2009-09-05 18:13:53

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

takedown wrote:

any of you can give an example of your favorite terminal applications for everyday use?
ej: web - mail (gmail) - im - view pictures - file manager, etc

While I know and use many of them, I would like some advice

There are already [endless amounts of] threads about this that may give you some ideas.

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#36 2009-09-05 18:15:21

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

takedown wrote:

any of you can give an example of your favorite terminal applications for everyday use?
ej: web - mail (gmail) - im - view pictures - file manager, etc

While I know and use many of them, I would like some advice

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=78490

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#37 2009-09-05 18:16:11

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

KISS is always a good reason^^

I simply find terminal apps easier/more logical to use. Also I love keybindings and although there are keybinds in gui-apps too it's faster to stay on the keyboard than to grab the mouse between keystrokes.

I extensively use apps like inkscape or gimp so I can't live without mouse, but where it's possible I use terminal apps (VI ftw). It would be awesome to have inkscape etc. running in framebuffer xD


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#38 2009-09-05 19:11:15

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

I use term progs because they make me look cool in public, and are faster than guis.  However, browsing, image editing, some tasks, etc... should be gui.


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#39 2009-09-05 20:03:35

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Lexion wrote:

I use term progs because they make me look cool in public

for me it's exactly the opposite : I avoid using term progs because they make me look awkward in public smile


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#40 2009-09-05 20:50:44

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

I use GUI apps because it makes me feel awkward to only use 256MB/8.0GB of memory and only 20% of a single CPU core. I've got to justify how much this machine cost somehow and using the latest eyecandy is how I manage to accomplish this.

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#41 2009-09-05 22:22:29

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Indeed. It's a waste to sit with a great rig and not use it for anything. I generally only use CLI-apps when they are the fastest/best/etc alternative there is. Bloat is rarely an issue because of this.
Well, I encode video a lot and compile stuff with -j 8, so ... tongue

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#42 2009-09-05 22:29:27

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

ok, i have the rig for gaming under windows and i like playing with good hardware but i do not like bloated software so most of the programs i use are lightweight or cli.

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#43 2009-09-05 22:33:19

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

shining wrote:
Lexion wrote:

I use term progs because they make me look cool in public

for me it's exactly the opposite : I avoid using term progs because they make me look awkward in public smile

Same here. I even configured a guest account with a huge facebook icon which fires up firefox in private browsing mode. And a massive Emesene icon too because windows live messenger is way too popular over here in Europe.

Invaluable when having 20+ friends sleeping over for a couple of days and suddenly everybody needs to check something online.

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#44 2009-09-06 04:10:02

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Ncurses is hot. wink Plus with xterm or and some other terminals, we can still use our mouse if we choose to (it's a compiled in option).

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#45 2009-09-06 11:04:12

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

eldalion wrote:
shining wrote:
Lexion wrote:

I use term progs because they make me look cool in public

for me it's exactly the opposite : I avoid using term progs because they make me look awkward in public smile

Same here. I even configured a guest account with a huge facebook icon which fires up firefox in private browsing mode. And a massive Emesene icon too because windows live messenger is way too popular over here in Europe.

Invaluable when having 20+ friends sleeping over for a couple of days and suddenly everybody needs to check something online.

You got an entire mansion or smth?!

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#46 2009-09-06 11:47:42

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Terminal apps are generally faster to use. Especially file management with midnight commander and text editing with vim.


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#47 2009-09-06 13:20:10

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Stalafin wrote:
eldalion wrote:
shining wrote:

for me it's exactly the opposite : I avoid using term progs because they make me look awkward in public smile

Same here. I even configured a guest account with a huge facebook icon which fires up firefox in private browsing mode. And a massive Emesene icon too because windows live messenger is way too popular over here in Europe.

Invaluable when having 20+ friends sleeping over for a couple of days and suddenly everybody needs to check something online.

You got an entire mansion or smth?!

Or really close friends...

Perhaps they're all tiny? I can't imagine allowing 20+ friends access to my computer, guest account or no.


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#48 2009-09-06 14:00:53

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

ngoonee wrote:
Stalafin wrote:
eldalion wrote:

Same here. I even configured a guest account with a huge facebook icon which fires up firefox in private browsing mode. And a massive Emesene icon too because windows live messenger is way too popular over here in Europe.

Invaluable when having 20+ friends sleeping over for a couple of days and suddenly everybody needs to check something online.

You got an entire mansion or smth?!

Or really close friends...

Perhaps they're all tiny? I can't imagine allowing 20+ friends access to my computer, guest account or no.

Really. No one over there has heard of a laptop? tongue

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#49 2009-09-06 16:55:01

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

Well, for a week of partying with fellow students, people usually bring beverages and food instead of laptops. tongue

On the other hand, cli apps are great when I need to finish something quickly with no IM or the latest youtube clip getting in my way.

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#50 2009-09-06 19:36:00

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Re: Why this fascination with terminal applications?

eldalion wrote:

Well, for a week of partying with fellow students, people usually bring beverages and food instead of laptops. tongue

On the other hand, cli apps are great when I need to finish something quickly with no IM or the latest youtube clip getting in my way.

Beverages and food instead of a computer? ??? I don't get it - are you making a joke?

tongue

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