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#401 2009-12-18 23:39:54

ctarwater
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this thread.  I've followed the instructions in the first post and for the first time I get more than 300 fps with glxgears (1350 or so to be exact) and while it's not great, it's a huuuuuge improvement.

I'm running an HD 3450 for the record.

Thanks again!

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#402 2009-12-19 08:17:34

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

Last edited by Falstaff (2009-12-19 08:18:35)

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#403 2009-12-19 09:10:04

csslayer
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Falstaff wrote:

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

Check glxinfo and make sure it's not software rasterizer (Though you can enable composite with opengl mode in compiz or kde, it still can be software rasterizer).

If so, use

LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo

check the first several lines and see if there is a permission error or not. I met this problem because I didn't add my user to video group...

gpasswd -a username video

and maybe you need

Section "DRI" 
Mode 0666 
EndSection

in xorg.conf.

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#404 2009-12-19 09:52:50

Cdh
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

I request the nightly repo to be in the first post.
Currently it is on page 14/15 and not everyone will see it there.
I think it's easier and faster to use precompiled packages than to compile everything yourself.

Add to pacman.conf

i686:

[nightly]
Server = http://nightly.user-helfen-usern.de/i686

x86_64:

[nightly]
Server = http://nightly.user-helfen-usern.de/x86_64

Maybe install 2.6.32 from testing.

Just do

pacman -S nightly/libdrm-git nightly/mesa-git nightly/libgl-git nightly/ati-dri-git nightly/xf86-video-ati-git

and you're ready.


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#405 2009-12-19 13:53:51

Falstaff
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

csslayer wrote:
Falstaff wrote:

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

Check glxinfo and make sure it's not software rasterizer (Though you can enable composite with opengl mode in compiz or kde, it still can be software rasterizer).

If so, use

LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo

check the first several lines and see if there is a permission error or not. I met this problem because I didn't add my user to video group...

gpasswd -a username video

and maybe you need

Section "DRI" 
Mode 0666 
EndSection

in xorg.conf.

Followed your advice and now I'm getting around 515 FPS...

I'll update the packages to see if it'll do any good; 
the R600 chip is now OpenGL 2.0 compatible and works with GLSL: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=NzgyNQ

note: Why both the radeon and nouveau drivers are having such great improvements these days? It wasn't like this months ago.

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#406 2009-12-19 17:22:37

jinzo
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

I used the Cdh's repositories ( needed to manually install one package from AUR and changed the way of installing the -git packages ) on my HD4570, the improvements are really good. I'm using .32 kernel from Testing with KMS ( which works good ) and get around ~1500 FPS with glxgears.
Thanks for all the info and keep up the good work.

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#407 2009-12-19 17:31:46

csslayer
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Posts: 85

Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Falstaff wrote:
csslayer wrote:
Falstaff wrote:

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

Check glxinfo and make sure it's not software rasterizer (Though you can enable composite with opengl mode in compiz or kde, it still can be software rasterizer).

If so, use

LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo

check the first several lines and see if there is a permission error or not. I met this problem because I didn't add my user to video group...

gpasswd -a username video

and maybe you need

Section "DRI" 
Mode 0666 
EndSection

in xorg.conf.

Followed your advice and now I'm getting around 515 FPS...

I'll update the packages to see if it'll do any good; 
the R600 chip is now OpenGL 2.0 compatible and works with GLSL: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=NzgyNQ

note: Why both the radeon and nouveau drivers are having such great improvements these days? It wasn't like this months ago.

Sorry for that but what does your glxinfo show?.. I don't know whether your card belongs to r600 or not.. I using hd 3450 and I get 15xx fps with glxgears.

And actually radeon get this with a lot work before I think, because the commit is only remove one line comment that seems to disable some unstable feature before...

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#408 2009-12-19 17:34:48

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Here's my glxinfo output:

[salon@myhost ~]$ glxinfo | grep -i opengl
do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly.
Try adjusting the vblank_mode configuration parameter.
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RS780 9610) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.10
OpenGL extensions:

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#409 2009-12-19 17:45:50

csslayer
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Sorry, I have no idea now..

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#410 2009-12-19 17:55:11

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Anybody knows how to force wine to use DRI on 64-bit system ?

Last edited by Dinth (2009-12-19 17:55:23)

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#411 2009-12-19 21:17:21

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Cdh wrote:

I request the nightly repo to be in the first post.
Currently it is on page 14/15 and not everyone will see it there.
I think it's easier and faster to use precompiled packages than to compile everything yourself.

Add to pacman.conf

i686:

[nightly]
Server = http://nightly.user-helfen-usern.de/i686

x86_64:

[nightly]
Server = http://nightly.user-helfen-usern.de/x86_64

Maybe install 2.6.32 from testing.

Just do

pacman -S nightly/libdrm-git nightly/mesa-git nightly/libgl-git nightly/ati-dri-git nightly/xf86-video-ati-git

and you're ready.

I agree should be in first post, I have been one of the guys using it, and i never knew this existed.


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#412 2009-12-19 21:24:00

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Falstaff wrote:

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

I have Radeon 3100 (similar to 3200 but with lowered clock) and I get ~1050 with glxgears, but when I enable compositing (kwin) it drops to ~650. Maybe this is a clue?

Last edited by Pawel (2009-12-19 21:25:07)

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#413 2009-12-19 21:41:02

Falstaff
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Pawel wrote:
Falstaff wrote:

Is it normal that my system hit around 475~500 FPS with glxgears?

That with an integrated chipset (780G - Radeon 3200)

It somehow seems low compared to some of you that went over thousands.

I have Radeon 3100 (similar to 3200 but with lowered clock) and I get ~1050 with glxgears, but when I enable compositing (kwin) it drops to ~650. Maybe this is a clue?

Yeah, it bumps up to ~750 when I deactivate kwin. Do you have a xorg.conf? If yes, post it please.

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#414 2009-12-20 01:21:57

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

When I trying to makepkg kernel26-drm-next, it tells me that

==> Missing depedencies :
  -> kernel26<2.6.32


Is it save to skip the dep. check with this package?

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#415 2009-12-20 10:42:48

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

You don't need kernel26-drm-next (as you can see). Use the kernel in testing (and I guess you already do that).

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#416 2009-12-20 11:06:11

Cdh
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Don't update today (at least if you have a 4650 like me). X only used software rasterizer for rendering for no reason. I downgraded to packages from few days before and now I have again OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV730 9498) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL


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#417 2009-12-20 11:27:44

Pik
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

@ Falstaff

I own a HD3200 IGP too and I get ~500 FPS with glxgears (without composite). Thats normal.

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#418 2009-12-20 13:05:56

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

I used the nightly repo and I'm getting
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
Does anyone know why?

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#419 2009-12-20 13:08:01

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

kraffslol wrote:

I used the nightly repo and I'm getting
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
Does anyone know why?

dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?

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#420 2009-12-20 13:33:49

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D wrote:
kraffslol wrote:

I used the nightly repo and I'm getting
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
Does anyone know why?

dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?

http://dirty.lobztr.com/dmesg.txt
http://dirty.lobztr.com/xorg.txt

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#421 2009-12-20 14:30:00

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.

Which kernel are you using?

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#422 2009-12-20 15:06:07

kraffslol
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D wrote:

[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.

Which kernel are you using?

2.6.32.2

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#423 2009-12-20 16:19:56

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

kraffslol wrote:
Perry3D wrote:

[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.

Which kernel are you using?

2.6.32.2

$ zgrep RADEON /proc/config.gz

English is not my native language .

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#424 2009-12-20 16:21:06

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

ChemBro wrote:

You don't need kernel26-drm-next (as you can see). Use the kernel in testing (and I guess you already do that).

Then I guess it's possible to compile mesa-full without drm-next.

Edit: Just did so minutes ago.

Last edited by Falstaff (2009-12-20 17:02:00)

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#425 2009-12-20 16:49:46

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Nezmer wrote:
kraffslol wrote:
Perry3D wrote:

Which kernel are you using?

2.6.32.2

$ zgrep RADEON /proc/config.gz

-> zgrep RADEON /proc/config.gz                                           17:52
gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory

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