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#51 2009-10-24 15:10:45

falconindy
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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

wonder wrote:

i think i got it!!. for me only cd/dvd automonting didn't worked.
i've seen that my dvdrom was detected as /dev/hda rather than /dev/sr0. the problem was that i had in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf some modules. removing them and adding the standard hook and regenereting the image solved my problem.

This is the same boat that I'm in. Not 100% sure how to proceed. During my install, I was given the impression that the HOOKS parameter only needs to contain modules required to boot. Given that, I left off pata (for my dvdrom), since all my HDDs are sata. Is that my mistake?

edit: Nevermind. I should just try these things before posting. Added pata, made the new image, and it works fine.

Last edited by falconindy (2009-10-24 15:40:57)

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#52 2009-10-24 16:02:16

kgas
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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I confirm this mounting behavior with the touchmate DVD drive. A bug report is there. External HDD are getting auto-mounted without any problem.

Edit 1:pcmanfm detects the drive in the openbox setup on another laptop.

Edit 2: This problem is not related with nautilus / device-kit but with the hardware.(usb cable).

Last edited by kgas (2009-10-24 19:05:00)

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#53 2009-10-24 19:31:25

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

Just my 2 cents...

I think the problem is with gvfs and or fuse...

For me at home:

-CD\DVD-ROM Drives, USB sticks, and MP3 players can not be accessed in Gnome.
-All the above works just fine in Enlightenment and KDE on the same system
-I use Entrance for the login manager


For me at work:

-CD\DVD-ROM Drives, USB sticks, and MP3 players can not be accessed in Gnome.
-All the above works just fine in Enlightenment same system
-No login manager, just startx from the console

I say it is an issue with FUSE and or GVFS because in Enlightenment even though I can access my MP3 player via my file manager and Banshee, I can not access it using Rhythembox. Rhythembox depends on gvfs which depends on fuse, While Banshee depends on neither of those.

THIS IS RETARDED sad

Now I'm going to do that bad thing and repost this in Kaloos thread

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#54 2009-10-24 22:25:11

azraelle
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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

>ck-launch-session dbus-launch nautilus

This works but only after i manually restarted hal & dbus. Fucking annoying. I already start my session with with 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session' and  'ck-launch-session'.

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#55 2009-10-24 23:35:03

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

Partially solved. This

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"; then
       eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
fi

crap in .xinitrc doesn't work correctly. It only allows gvfs work but not flash and cd's mount.

Solved.

Seems that above construction isn't equal to dbus-launch $session.

Last edited by azraelle (2009-10-25 00:30:20)

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#56 2009-10-28 12:41:51

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

azraelle wrote:

Partially solved. This

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"; then
       eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
fi

crap in .xinitrc doesn't work correctly. It only allows gvfs work but not flash and cd's mount.

Solved.

Seems that above construction isn't equal to dbus-launch $session.

How did you solve this exactly? I looked in the xinitrc file and found this statement, but how does one get this resolved?

Thanks,


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#57 2009-10-28 17:47:45

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

slowly it starts annoying me. with every damn update the crap changes. sometimes it works and sometimes not.

and to be honest i do not have any clue where to look at. and writing shit into the .xinitrc does not sound like  a solution to me.

despaired
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#58 2009-10-28 18:26:29

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

There is a system wide xinitrc file under /etc/X11 as well, that's where I found the samilar statement. Linux isn't always pretty, you might want to try Ubuntu its usually more stable than Arch from what I hear.


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#59 2009-10-29 00:05:58

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I'm having the same issue, managed to mount my external hard drives with:

gnome-mount -vbd /dev/sda1

Some strange behavior: I can't write to the main directory of the hard drive but I can in folders further down the directory tree.

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#60 2009-10-29 17:38:07

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

jskier wrote:
azraelle wrote:

Partially solved. This

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"; then
       eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
fi

crap in .xinitrc doesn't work correctly. It only allows gvfs work but not flash and cd's mount.

Solved.

Seems that above construction isn't equal to dbus-launch $session.

How did you solve this exactly? I looked in the xinitrc file and found this statement, but how does one get this resolved?

Thanks,

Changed .xinit to this.
exec `ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session --sh-syntax startfluxbox`

You cay also try launch naitilus directly with dbus-launch 'nautilus --no-desktop'.

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#61 2009-10-30 14:00:28

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

Thanks azraelle, it works on my Openbox session

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#62 2009-10-30 15:32:54

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

This got my Gnome working right on my Laptop. Desktop is another story, but that's probably ado to me putzing around too much with it earlier smile

Thank you.

Update:
Tried undoing everything I did over the past week, but can't seem to get it going on my Desktop for some reason (even just with Nautilus no-desktop).

Last edited by jskier (2009-10-30 18:18:51)


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#63 2009-10-31 19:23:02

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

So at the end what's the final solution to get usb and cd/dvd working again on my gnome session?
If I reinstall archlinux can I solve the problem or if I downgrade some gnome packages... if yes do you know what packages have to be downgraded?

I don't understand why no develepoer seems interested on this annoying issue: "we are alone".
And after some days has anyone realized what doesn't work?

Last edited by Garret (2009-10-31 19:41:59)

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#64 2009-11-01 10:22:58

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

If someone uses GDM for accessing to their account, how they can solve this? It's about a month that I've swithced to XFCE "only" for this "small" issue, even if I must admit that despite XFCE is a good DE, I miss some of the little features of GNOME...

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#65 2009-11-03 03:25:09

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I use kde4 with slim as a login manager, but I like to use nautilus as my file manager. Yea kinda complicated...

changing my .xinitrc line to this

exec ck-launch-session startkde

allowed me to mount my usb/cd/dvds again.

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#66 2009-11-03 12:07:23

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

Well, I got it to work again on my desktop (I'm not using GDM). I was missing the user group 'policykit'- was able to get that back together properly. Then I booted up this morning, now it won't work again. Argghh, I'll Google/update this more when I'm at home; Gnome also locks up when I exit to the console- something about a HAL exception thrown. Very very frustrating.

KDE4 has worked flawlessly the whole time (even without the policykit group)- too bad I hate using it. Laptop with Gnome and the special xinitrc line works fine as well after rebooting.

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#67 2009-11-09 02:20:36

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

Hi,

I am new to arch (and linux actually, started ~1month ago on ubuntu), and after a few hours / days trying to understand why I have not authorization to mount some internal hdd in nautilus, I just found this thread.. I tried to install gdm and use it at boot, and it does appear to solve the issue for me too, I can access my drives again... But I would prefer not to have gdm..

Has there been some progress on this issue and a proper understanding of what is the root cause / fix available ?

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#68 2009-11-11 03:38:43

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I use gnome, and I don't use gdm (instead, I launch it by adding gnome-session to my .xinitrc and using the startx command from the console)

I've been affected by this problem too, but I have found a work around that might help some people.

My work around is to add this to your /etc/fstab file:

/dev/sdb1 /media/usb auto defaults,user 0 1

Where /dev/sdb1 is the device file that my USB disk takes. Of course, you'll need to change this around so that it applies to your system/setup. This works well enough for me, at least for now.
I hope to see this glitch fixed soon.

(I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that Arch Linux is fantastic, and so are the Arch user and developer communities. Thanks everybody for a great system. I appreciate your efforts. I just installed it about two days ago, and I'm quite happy with it.)


- dusthillguy

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#69 2009-11-17 12:32:42

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I was able to get it working again using GDM. I noticed using Thunar I had some permission issues when I tried mounting usb devices and I found out that Policykit is depreciated with the latest version of HAL (a lot happens when one goes on vacation for 10 days). Anyway, adjusted the conf file for HAL and rebooted- GDM seems to get it working for me again.

Also glad to hear it's not just a x64 problem as well, hopefully this gets fixed soon.


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#70 2009-11-17 12:34:09

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I simply started to use AutoFS (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Autofs). Really cool application

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#71 2009-11-17 12:38:02

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

I haven't looked at AutoFS for a long long time, I'll have to try it again- I'd rather not use GDM big_smile

wottam wrote:

I simply started to use AutoFS (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Autofs). Really cool application


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#72 2009-11-17 13:09:27

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

wottam wrote:

I simply started to use AutoFS (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Autofs). Really cool application

I didn't understand very well how autofs works.
I have gnome & hal, Can I use this Autofs too or I have to remove something?
And then, when I put my usb stick, I'll have two folders (one created by hal and another by autofs)?
How did you setup your configs?

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#73 2009-11-17 13:37:36

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Re: Gnome 2.28 brokes USB flash/CD/DVD auto mount

AutoFS lets you define folders that will be automatically mounted when you access to them.

For instance, I have configured my usb external disk to be mounted in /media/disks/lacie so if I plug it in my computer nothing happens, but if I change directory to where the files are meant to be mounted autofs will take care of everything. I don't know if it will work with gnome for sure, but it probably will if you disable gnome automounting feature.

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