Clyde - A better libalpm/makepkg wrapper

henrik.nacka · 2011-06-30 23:29:01

Has anybody got this before? Can't find anything wrong with the PKGBUILD on this one either. Look at what the version is on the two different commands:

┌┌(henke@black)┌(4335/pts/0)┌(01:08:11/07/01)┌-
└┌(%:~)┌- clyde -Ss mdadm-git 
aur/mdadm-git `date +%Y%m%d`-2 (0)
    A tool for managing/monitoring Linux md device arrays, also known as Software RAID. -git version

┌┌(henke@black)┌(4336/pts/0)┌(01:09:11/07/01)┌-
└┌(%:~)┌- clyde -Si mdadm-git
Repository     : aur
Name           : mdadm-git
Version        : 20110701-2
.....

Maybe a bug, you think?

/Henrik

EDIT: Or maybe not a good way for a PKGBUILD to be written?

Last edited by henrik.nacka (2011-06-30 23:32:36)

anonymous_user · 2011-07-01 00:13:46

The same happens with packer. Perhaps talk to the maintainer (of mdadm-git) about it.

safrax · 2011-07-04 15:12:20

I know this has to be something simple, but I'll ask anyways... I just did a new install of Arch in a VM. Install went okay. I grabbed clyde-git out of the AUR and built it with makepkg just fine. However when I run clyde, whenever it goes to build a package from the AUR it'll ask me if I want to edit the PKGBUILD and the install file if there is one and then it just dumps me out to the command line. No error. Nothing. Running it with --verbose also doesn't shed any light on what's going on. If I do a makepkg on the files clyde downloaded and left in /tmp the packages build just fine. Any ideas whats breaking?

karol · 2011-07-04 16:13:50

safrax wrote:

I know this has to be something simple, but I'll ask anyways... I just did a new install of Arch in a VM. Install went okay. I grabbed clyde-git out of the AUR and built it with makepkg just fine. However when I run clyde, whenever it goes to build a package from the AUR it'll ask me if I want to edit the PKGBUILD and the install file if there is one and then it just dumps me out to the command line. No error. Nothing. Running it with --verbose also doesn't shed any light on what's going on. If I do a makepkg on the files clyde downloaded and left in /tmp the packages build just fine. Any ideas whats breaking?

Do you have the editor set up in /etc/clyde.conf?

# Which program to use for editing PKGBUILDs.
Editor = vim

safrax · 2011-07-04 16:26:47

karol wrote:

safrax wrote:
I know this has to be something simple, but I'll ask anyways... I just did a new install of Arch in a VM. Install went okay. I grabbed clyde-git out of the AUR and built it with makepkg just fine. However when I run clyde, whenever it goes to build a package from the AUR it'll ask me if I want to edit the PKGBUILD and the install file if there is one and then it just dumps me out to the command line. No error. Nothing. Running it with --verbose also doesn't shed any light on what's going on. If I do a makepkg on the files clyde downloaded and left in /tmp the packages build just fine. Any ideas whats breaking?
Do you have the editor set up in /etc/clyde.conf?
# Which program to use for editing PKGBUILDs.
Editor = vim

Yup. Currently set to nano. I can edit the PKGBUILD fine. Its when clyde goes to build the package, after its asked about editing the PKGBUILD and .install files that it dumps me out to the command line.

riivo · 2011-07-16 10:33:08

I believe there's a bug with using "pacman -Qqs" output in reinstalling AUR packages. For example, "pacman -Qqs compiz" gives 6 packages from AUR, but when I run "sudo clyde -S --noconfirm $(pacman -Qqs compiz)", only one gets recompiled. However, "packer -S --noconfirm $(pacman -Qqs compiz)" works fine.

anonymous_user · 2011-07-16 10:46:17

@riivo - I believe theres a bug where if you try using Clyde to install multiple packages from AUR, it will only install the first one.

Lowra · 2011-07-16 20:43:47

Hum, when trying to install clyde from AUR, I got:

[david@laptop clyde-git]$ makepkg -s
==> Making package: clyde-git 20101027-1 (Sat Jul 16 22:41:01 CEST 2011)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Installing missing dependencies...
error: target not found: lua-yajl-git
==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies.

I don't know if I am doing something wrong or not... :S

tacticalbread · 2011-07-16 20:55:21

Lowra wrote:

Hum, when trying to install clyde from AUR, I got:
[david@laptop clyde-git]$ makepkg -s
==> Making package: clyde-git 20101027-1 (Sat Jul 16 22:41:01 CEST 2011)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Installing missing dependencies...
error: target not found: lua-yajl-git
==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies.
I don't know if I am doing something wrong or not... :S

lua-yajl-git is also in the AUR, and pacman doesn't install stuff from the AUR, so you'll have to install all of clyde's deps manually.

Lowra · 2011-07-16 20:59:46

You're right. Thanks

It works now

juster · 2011-07-17 23:29:37

Hello clyde users. I just wanted you to know I am not going to work on clyde anymore. I originally started to work on clyde, not as a die-hard clyde fan, but as just another rogue arch code monkey trying to help out. I now lack the enthusiasm needed to keep doing this.

For the last two major pacman releases (1 year) I have updated clyde so that it would continue to work with the new libalpm versions. The next pacman release I won't be doing it again. I hear rumors that the next pacman version is relatively close to being released.

Kiwi and I both have waned in interest and clyde needs a motivated developer to fix and maintain things. If you like clyde and want to keep it going start hacking on it. If not, let it gently sink to the ocean floor of open source and switch to one of the many other AUR helpers.

anonymous_user · 2011-07-17 23:30:36

karol · 2011-07-17 23:36:26

Thanks for the heads-up and thanks for all the great work :-)

losinggeneration · 2011-07-18 17:43:53

juster wrote:

Hello clyde users. I just wanted you to know I am not going to work on clyde anymore. I originally started to work on clyde, not as a die-hard clyde fan, but as just another rogue arch code monkey trying to help out. I now lack the enthusiasm needed to keep doing this.
For the last two major pacman releases (1 year) I have updated clyde so that it would continue to work with the new libalpm versions. The next pacman release I won't be doing it again. I hear rumors that the next pacman version is relatively close to being released.
Kiwi and I both have waned in interest and clyde needs a motivated developer to fix and maintain things. If you like clyde and want to keep it going start hacking on it. If not, let it gently sink to the ocean floor of open source and switch to one of the many other AUR helpers.

Over on Identi.ca hoelzro has been trying to garner some interest to get a new group (because he doesn't have enough time to do it all himself) to help maintain clyde. It'd be a shame to just let it die

http://identi.ca/conversation/76532129#notice-79092506 is one instance. I've expressed interest to him, but lack a lot of time because of life and many other on going projects. So, perhaps a couple others here would be interested in also helping maintain it to help distribute the load

NoxSec · 2011-07-20 13:03:57

That's too bad. I have been using clyde for quite awhile now, it's pretty awesome. Anyways thanks for the great work you did.

655321 · 2011-07-20 18:56:46

A shame indeed. Thanks for all the help provided and for maintaining the app. If I find someone interested in becoming a dev I will report back here.

Meskarune · 2011-07-25 12:04:42

T_T

if I knew how to code better, I would do it...

maybe we could start a fund as incentive for someone to continue developement?

does anyone have any suggestions for an AUR helper that is as fast and pretty as clyde? (if no one takes up the gauntlet)

pogeymanz · 2011-07-25 13:04:40

I'm using pacaur and it's pretty nice and very fast.

SanskritFritz · 2011-07-25 13:06:20

+1 for pacaur

Spyhawk · 2011-07-25 13:16:15

Meskarune wrote:

T_T
if I knew how to code better, I would do it...
maybe we could start a fund as incentive for someone to continue developement?
does anyone have any suggestions for an AUR helper that is as fast and pretty as clyde? (if no one takes up the gauntlet)

If you really like Clyde interface, you might have a look at yaourt. Clyde originally started as a replacement for yaourt due to its poor performance, but yaourt gained lot of speed since it switched to a C backend.

Anyway, sad to see Clyde going... I honestly hope someone will take care of it, I have used it myself for a very long time.

@pogeymanz, SanskritFritz> pacaur, what is that?

Last edited by Spyhawk (2011-07-25 13:20:16)

anonymous_user · 2011-07-25 14:54:41

Thank Spyhawk there exists pacaur!

mhertz · 2011-07-26 00:02:39

Clyde is stated to be very fast, and it should as it's using C and lua, but in my quick tests, where I just now installed clyde-git and ran 'time clyde -Ss musca' and then 'time packer -Ss musca', then here's the result: (packer is just bash with curl and standard utils):

clyde -Ss musca >> time.txt  0.47s user 0.04s system 21% cpu 2.326 total
packer -Ss musca >> time.txt  0.40s user 0.01s system 19% cpu 2.061 total

From previous tests I did a couple of weeks ago, then I know that aurget is on par with packer, and yaourt is about 40% quicker, and the same with pacaur and powaur, as they either use C backends(yaourt=package-query, and pacaur=cower) or are in C(powaur)...

karol · 2011-07-26 00:11:08

mhertz wrote:

Clyde is stated to be very fast, and it should as it's using C and lua, but in my quick tests, where I just now installed clyde-git and ran 'time clyde -Ss musca' and then 'time packer -Ss musca', then here's the result: (packer is just bash with curl and standard utils):
clyde -Ss musca >> time.txt  0.47s user 0.04s system 21% cpu 2.326 total
packer -Ss musca >> time.txt  0.40s user 0.01s system 19% cpu 2.061 total

Maybe because clyde gives you nice colors and shows how many votes each package has.

Last edited by karol (2011-07-26 00:11:28)

mhertz · 2011-07-26 00:32:19

Ahh. of course, I didn't even think about that, as I just redirected the output Allthough, yaourt is still much faster and which does include all that stuff I believe...

Also, I wouldn't have posted this here if clyde was still in active development, but now that clyde is on hold and since a user recently asked for other fast aur client recommendations, then I thought that it was allright...

Spyhawk · 2011-07-26 07:28:52

Imho you shouldn't strictly focus on performance to make your choice (they are all really good), but think about what are you needs first.

Do you need lot of features? Try yaourt (the most similar to clyde I believe)
Do you need a minimalist aur helper? Try cower, powaur.
Do you need an aur helper with minimal dependencies? Try packer, aurget, cower, powaur, pbfetch.
Do you need a fast workflow? Try pacaur
Do you need an aur helper that do not duplicate pacman command? Try packer, aurget.
Do you need full customizepkg support? Try yaourt, aurget.
And if you don't find an aur helper that perfectly meets your needs, try coding one

Last edited by Spyhawk (2011-07-26 08:02:56)

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