ati radeon driver install

Cerebral · 2005-07-14 18:29:13

giorgosc61 wrote:

I don't think it is ati related but can someone tell me how to fix it?

You're getting this error because you've su'd to root and are trying to access your regular user's display.
To fix, just go to your regular user and type
xhost +localhost

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-15 07:24:28

Ok 3d acceleration works great...but there are some problems and i think there are driver related.

When I am in Kde and try to pick up an icon from the desktop suddenly everything freezes on the desktop. The mouse pointer can be moved, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work, i can hear the mp3 i was using to continue playing and i also see my router continue downloading the download but the screen is frozen.

The same can happen after simply moving the mouse pointer on the desktop suddenly freezes like before.

I left on the computer last night to continue a download and didn't freeze for about 8 hours. In the morning when i tried to double click on an konqueror link on the desktop it froze again.

The system was rock solid.Never froze before installing the ati-drivers so i belive it is a driver issue.

I remember about three months ago when i was trying KANOTIX it had a script for installing ati-drivers and the same occured until I donwgraded to a previous version of the drivers and nver happened again.

I have an ATI 9200.

What could be the problem?
1) Ati Drivers ?
2) KDE not working well with the drivers?
3) some xorg config issue.

I installed the drivers following exactly the wiki recommendations about xorg.conf

Any ideas?

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-16 07:10:38

I believe there must be incompatibility with 2.6.12 kernel and the latest ati-drivers that causes my system to freeze.

I want to make a custom kernel 2.6.10 ati enabled and use the pkgbuild of the latest ati-drivers to compile them for my new kernel.

How can I obtain the PKGBUILD of 2.6.10?

matsche · 2005-07-17 17:45:08

patch for 2.6.12
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-19 08:13:48

Hello.

Does this patch correct lockups with 2.6.12?

How can I apply it?

dtw · 2005-07-19 10:30:00

i should probably apply it to the pkg in [community] - correct?

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-19 10:51:31

It would be great if you could do that.

Would it be possible that you put in community a previous kernel like 2.6.10 or 2.6.11 depended on the ati-drivers that it is more stable with the drivers than the latest 2.6.12 that is known to have problems. And when Ati releases new drivers compatible with a new kernel we could have with an pacman -Sy ati-drivers the update to the 2.6.x kernel that is reported to work properlu.

I think Ati says that the drivers are 2.6.11 compatible, so
pacman -S ati-drivers
could install from the community with the drivers the ati-enabled known to be stable and without problems kernel version
eg 2.6.11 or 2.6.10 that could be named
kernel26-ati

I am only suggesting to make the installation of ati-drivers as easy and trouble-free as possible.(I tried to build my own 2.6.10 ati enabled kernel but it was a disaster...I couldn't even makepkg the PKGBUILD)

Slash · 2005-07-20 23:36:39

That would cause less problems for everyone I think...

In theory dtw would just need to have kernel26cko-ati which would be identical to kernel26cko, except updated much less. He would need to keep the older PKGBUILDs while kernel26cko progresses, so one of them will be the new kernel26cko-ati whenever ATI officially supports a kernel.

This is much less work than patching the drivers every time the kernel26cko is updated and breaking a lot of users in the process. I'm assuming dtw doesn't use an ATI card either? It just seems like an unnessesary pain in the ass to get the ATI drivers working and I doubt that is going to change anytime soon. If someone REALLY needs the latest kernel, they are probably saavy enough to patch the drivers themselves. I'm guessing the majority of people who are going to be using the community kernel + drivers combination want something that works AND is stable.

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-21 04:10:50

Yes that was exactly what I meant.

A STABLE system is much ore needed than having the latest kernel with ATI.

I hope dibblethewrecker can help us
(I think changing the name and a recompile of the kernel26cko-ati and ati-drivers to support the that kernel is all that is needed).

And that kernel could be upgraded only if the new ati-drivers come out to the kernel version that those drivers support(like current support 2.6.11).

mmgm · 2005-07-21 04:39:40

Slash wrote:

If someone REALLY needs the latest kernel, they are probably saavy enough to patch the drivers themselves.

Actually, no. I love having the latest software, especially kernels, but although I consider myself a pretty smart guy, I am nowhere near saavy enough to start patching up kernel modules. I'm no kernel hacker, yet.

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-21 05:19:53

But would you like to have the latest kernel but without stability with the latest ati-drivers?
You prefer having the latest kernel on a non stable system or having the kernel eg 2.6.11 (which is not so old) with latest ati-drivers and 3d acceleration in a STABLE-ROCK-SOLID system?

dtw · 2005-07-21 07:42:22

OK - so, let me get this straight. The ati drivers are only stable with 2.6.11 kernels?

However, not everyone has complained that they are unstable with 2.6.12. You'd like me to build and maintain a whole other kernel because two people would prefer it that way?

I only enabled support for ati in the kernel26cko kernel because qwerty asked me too - it is not the reason for the kernel26cko pkg's existence.

At some point the ati drivers will become stable with 2.6.12, correct? And when they do they will be available in [community] - rather than dial back the version to make a few people happy i think it is better to wait until it stablizes. Then, once you get your stable version you can use IgnorePkg to keep that version until the pkg stablizes in 2.6.13. That's how every other pkg works!

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-21 09:51:45

The problem with ATI Drivers is related to ATI not supporting its products well in linux while NVIDIA has better drivers in linux.

ATI driver problems I have found in all the linux distros I have used the last year.

I believe that your contibution of ati-drivers and kernel26cko are great. I though the problem of lockups and system instability was general. I don't want to built a kernel just for myself (I have been trying to do that for the last days without success but I will continue) but to help other as well. Of course the kernel26cko is not meant to be because of ati-support. But having a seperate kernel supporting fully ati-drivers and being updated only when a new version of drivers comes I believe will help people with ATI card to install much easier and without problems 3d accelaration in Arch (I think it will be the first distro to do that)

Please if anyone has problems like lockups or other with 2.6.12 please report.

Thank you.

dtw · 2005-07-21 11:23:16

I have posted a poll here to collect feedback on the pkgs in [community]

Please vote and leave any comments

matsche · 2005-07-21 11:47:22

have you added the patch in the new 2.6.12cko kernel? i think archlinux rocks because its always up to date! You only need pacman -Syu! Anyway I fear still to install your kernel & ati-drivers for my ATI Radeon 9000 Mobility on my laptop! I need a productive system for university! :-( So what to do?

dtw · 2005-07-21 12:12:05

UM - you can install two kernels you know!

You can have stable for school and kernel26cko for play

dtw · 2005-07-21 16:22:20

matsche wrote:

patch for 2.6.12
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136

that's a gcc4 patch i'll be using that later i think

giorgosc61 · 2005-07-22 19:35:36

The issue of the instability seem to have been the KDE.
Now with Gnome and Kernel26cko and Ati Drivers no lockups, everything works fine and fast without problems. PCSX with Gran Turismo 2 rocks.

Sorry for the mess I created with my previous posts and thank you all for the help you provided.

dtw · 2005-07-23 09:34:05

no problems!

qwerty · 2005-07-23 13:34:23

YO! I'm alive (almost), i'm reading on the rage3d forum that they're trying to understand the random freeze problem, if anyone is interested in that:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdispla … 71110&f=88

Anyway, i'd like to thanks dibble for mantaining ati-drivers and kernel26cko, just one thing, i was trying to get the PKGBUILD and files to build kernel26cko with my config but something is wrong with cvs.. i've read that it should be fixed soon, anyway, is there another place where you put your PKGBUILDs???

asrfèla,sw

YO!

mmgm · 2005-07-23 16:06:37

qwerty wrote:

is there another place where you put your PKGBUILDs???

· Running abs gets them. They should reside in /var/abs/community/kernels and /var/abs/community/modules.
· If you replace the bit saying "/none/" in the malfunctioning ViewCVS URL with "/kernels/" it should work.

qwerty · 2005-07-24 15:21:12

mmgm: I don't know why but there are 2 monts that any time i try to run abs from home it doesn't work... it connect to cvs.archlinux.org and do nothing for a while, after that it die for inactivity timeout.... i've gone to friend's home with my laptop and from there abs worked without any problem.... shit happensssssssssss

dtw · 2005-07-24 15:41:51

OK - CVS entries for the kernel26cko are broken - live with it for now!

I am also locking this thread. It is unproductive to have every single ati related issue reported an discussed here - for the health of the forum people need to make new threads. Besides, this one is huge!

dtw · 2005-08-17 08:41:15

Why do the framebuffer drivers have to be set as modules? Please answer immediately with a fully referenced anwer if you would like ati driver "support" in the next official kernel. Or you can post in the big thread here http://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?do= … ments#tabs

@@ -1895,9 +1897,9 @@
 # CONFIG_FB_HGA is not set
 # CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA is not set
 # CONFIG_FB_RIVA is not set
-CONFIG_FB_I810=y
+CONFIG_FB_I810=m
 CONFIG_FB_I810_GTF=y
-CONFIG_FB_INTEL=y
+CONFIG_FB_INTEL=m
 # CONFIG_FB_INTEL_DEBUG is not set
 # CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set
 # CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD is not set

Rotonen · 2005-08-17 13:47:58

dibblethewrecker wrote:

Why do the framebuffer drivers have to be set as modules? Please answer immediately with a fully referenced anwer if you would like ati driver "support" in the next official kernel.

I might not be the best and most knowledgeable person to answer this, but isn't it all about a conflict between the ATI drivers and the framebuffer device drivers: they just won't work together..?

At least about six months ago I had to compile my kernels by hand because of that. ATI drivers just wouldn't work with the stock Arch kenrel since I couldn't unload the framebuffer drivers due to the fact they were compiled into the kernel. I'm happy with the situation now, because with AUR packages "it just works" and I would use the cko patchset anyway. If there are people out there that want to use the Arch stock kernel with the ATI drivers, then it's quite an another story.

Sorry for not being able to provide you with the technical facts behind this, but it's the thought that counts, right? (My resposne was ASAP)

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