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ewaller

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From: Pasadena, CA

Registered: 2009-07-13

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that you have to remove hal to use xorg 1.8.

Not really.  Removing hal is just my motivation. 

Regardless, it doesn't change the stability issue.  During the meet, the machine needs to keep up with real-time score inputs and needs to quickly generate the results at the end of each meet session.  That is the real reason I backed out 1.8

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ap_

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From: Finland

Registered: 2008-10-14

Posts: 48

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I've got a problem with my laptop's touchpad and Xorg 1.8 (or the new synaptics driver, idk). The cursor is wayyyy too fast and "skips" from other side of the screen to the other. So back to Xorg 1.7 for now. Any ideas to fix the problem?

wonder

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From: Bucharest, Romania

Registered: 2006-07-05

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I've got a problem with my laptop's touchpad and Xorg 1.8 (or the new synaptics driver, idk). The cursor is wayyyy too fast and "skips" from other side of the screen to the other. So back to Xorg 1.7 for now. Any ideas to fix the problem?

sure. is on the wiki. is done in the same way you did using hal configuration file but now you modify another config from etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

also http://andreascarpino.it/2010/04/xorg-1 … iguration/

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ap_

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From: Finland

Registered: 2008-10-14

Posts: 48

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I've got a problem with my laptop's touchpad and Xorg 1.8 (or the new synaptics driver, idk). The cursor is wayyyy too fast and "skips" from other side of the screen to the other. So back to Xorg 1.7 for now. Any ideas to fix the problem?

sure. is on the wiki. is done in the same way you did using hal configuration file but now you modify another config from etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

also http://andreascarpino.it/2010/04/xorg-1 … iguration/

Thanks! Sorry for being lazy. Funny, I never had to specify the speed of the cursor earlier. Anyway, the problem was easily fixed, I added these lines to the synaptic configuration file:

    Option         "MinSpeed"        "1.0"
    Option         "MaxSpeed"        "1.8"
    Option        "AccelFactor"        "0.3"

Lothium

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Registered: 2009-10-10

Posts: 192

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

For me the switch worked, but I have to use the xorg.conf to get the german keyboard layout. Also with the normal kernel I get graphic glitches and, which is much more bad, with the zen kernel I get xorg crashes. Hope this will be fixed in the future.

firewalker

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From: Hellas (Greece).

Registered: 2006-06-05

Posts: 552

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Will nvidia-173xx support the new 1.8 xorg?

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthr … ost2244043

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Crozepp

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From: Basque Country

Registered: 2010-04-03

Posts: 42

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

If I turn on compiz with fusion-icon I get a screen freeze and  keyboard and mouse stops working (I've tried disabling HAL and the same), leaving the "reset" button as the only way to continue. 
I've returned to 1.7 now.

combuster

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From: Serbia

Registered: 2008-09-30

Posts: 711

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Last time I've checked, compiz doesnt work well with xserver 1.8, it could be a mesa related problem though... I had all kind of artifacts, refresh problems etc, so I use metacity atm.

ngoonee

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From: Between Thailand and Singapore

Registered: 2009-03-17

Posts: 7,356

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Last time I've checked, compiz doesnt work well with xserver 1.8, it could be a mesa related problem though... I had all kind of artifacts, refresh problems etc, so I use metacity atm.

I'm using compiz with Xorg-server 1.8, I've not had any problems at all.

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brianhanna

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Registered: 2009-10-30

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I just got upgraded and it looks like KDE still has quite a few things that depend on hal.  My battery status icon doesn't work even though I started acpid in rc.conf.  Also I get a pop-up on boot that says my sound card has been removed but it works anyway.  Very strange. 

I checked the xorg wiki entry and don't see any clues for how to fix these things.  Is it KDE or my configuration?

flamelab

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From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I just got upgraded and it looks like KDE still has quite a few things that depend on hal.  My battery status icon doesn't work even though I started acpid in rc.conf.  Also I get a pop-up on boot that says my sound card has been removed but it works anyway.  Very strange. 

I checked the xorg wiki entry and don't see any clues for how to fix these things.  Is it KDE or my configuration?

Do you still use HAL ? You must have HAL enabled.

combuster

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From: Serbia

Registered: 2008-09-30

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

@ngoonee

Well last time I've checked was when xserver 1.8 was in xorg18 repo, since then there was a rc to first point release, could be fixed... Or could be because of intel driver...

orschiro

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Registered: 2009-06-04

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello guys,

with xorg1.8 there is always a xorg.conf necessary for setting the keyboard layout?

Currently I'm not using any xorg.conf and it's working fine here. Hope there is a way to avoid a complete new set up with xorg.conf.

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eldragon

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From: Buenos Aires

Registered: 2008-11-18

Posts: 1,029

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello guys,

with xorg1.8 there is always a xorg.conf necessary for setting the keyboard layout?

Currently I'm not using any xorg.conf and it's working fine here. Hope there is a way to avoid a complete new set up with xorg.conf.

if i recall correctly, some sane defaults will be included in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

orschiro

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Registered: 2009-06-04

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello eldragon,

but this xorg.conf.d does not include all the grapical stuff such as driver, resolution and so on?

That's the great thing with the version < 1.8 because everything is detected automatically without xorg.conf and it would be then perfect it I only have to create one single file justing writing down my specified keyboard layout as I'm used to it with using the hal and evdev version.

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theslainman

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Registered: 2008-11-07

Posts: 8

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello eldragon,

but this xorg.conf.d does not include all the grapical stuff such as driver, resolution and so on?

That's the great thing with the version < 1.8 because everything is detected automatically without xorg.conf and it would be then perfect it I only have to create one single file justing writing down my specified keyboard layout as I'm used to it with using the hal and evdev version.

Its exactly like that just that you put the files in xorg.conf.d folder instead of in hal folder. No xorg.conf needed.

eldragon

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From: Buenos Aires

Registered: 2008-11-18

Posts: 1,029

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

i dont see what the real issue is with having an xorg.conf
console-kit cpu usage
better one file to rule them all than 10043423 config fdi's to confuse us all.

tomk

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From: Ireland

Registered: 2004-07-21

Posts: 9,839

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

orschiro, fyi video autodetection never used hal, so it works the same as before.

orschiro

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Registered: 2009-06-04

Posts: 2,136

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Really thank you for this information. It's clear now.

Regards

orschiro

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qubit

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Registered: 2007-04-25

Posts: 47

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello guys,

with xorg1.8 there is always a xorg.conf necessary for setting the keyboard layout?

You don't need xorg.conf to set keyboard layout. KDE/GNOME have its own conf. dialog for it or You can put setxkbmap with proper options to .xinitrc

orschiro

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Registered: 2009-06-04

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Well that might fir for DE's but there are some neat alternatives besides them.

But I'll try the hint theslainman gave me when xorg1.8 will be available in the official repo. Until then there's no need for me to use testing, hal is working without any problems at the moment.

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Diaz

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From: Portugal

Registered: 2008-04-16

Posts: 366

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Hello guys,

with xorg1.8 there is always a xorg.conf necessary for setting the keyboard layout?

You don't need xorg.conf to set keyboard layout. KDE/GNOME have its own conf. dialog for it or You can put setxkbmap with proper options to .xinitrc

Depending on a configuration tool from a DE is stupid. How would you change the keyboard layout in gdm/kdm/or other before loging into the DE?

And i still need to test an learn this neu xorg stuff ._.

brianhanna

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Registered: 2009-10-30

Posts: 157

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

I just got upgraded and it looks like KDE still has quite a few things that depend on hal.  My battery status icon doesn't work even though I started acpid in rc.conf.  Also I get a pop-up on boot that says my sound card has been removed but it works anyway.  Very strange. 

I checked the xorg wiki entry and don't see any clues for how to fix these things.  Is it KDE or my configuration?

Do you still use HAL ? You must have HAL enabled.

Sorry, should have explained better.  If I leave hal in my rc.conf, everything works fine.  If I remove hal from rc.conf and restart, I get the strange behavior described above.

tomk

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From: Ireland

Registered: 2004-07-21

Posts: 9,839

Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

brianhanna - this thread is about xorg 1.8 from the testing repo. This version of xorg does not use hal, which allows some users to remove or deactivate hal. Users with applications that still depend on hal, like you, obviously cannot do that, as explained already in various earlier posts.

More generally, the use of the testing repo requires more research, vigilance, and overall awareness than the use of the standard Arch repos. If you do not feel like putting in the extra effort, I'd recommend deactivating the testing repo, and waiting for xorg 1.8 to move to extra.

combuster

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From: Serbia

Registered: 2008-09-30

Posts: 711

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Re: Upgraded to Xorg1.8

Sory for off but when we touched on acpid, soon /proc/acpi will be deprecated in the kernel, acpid still points to it - right now I guess arch kernel still supports /proc/acpi but what about the future ? xserver 1.8 is still searching if acpid is started...

Last edited by combuster (2010-05-06 07:11:38)