Archlinux is very boring...

dusanx · 2009-01-18 11:14:47

...because devs did such a great job

My arch setup is very stable for a months now. I have tried several DE and WM combinations and kept XMonad permanently as it looks like. There is nothing for me to tweak, updates are routine process, everything works... boring I tell you No new versions to set (with backup-kill everything-setup new version-see what works steps), no waiting for bugfixes -- nothing to do here.

Yesterday I installed arch with LXDE on my wife's Dell laptop and even pcmcia wireless worked flawlessly. Nothing to do there either I guess.

In short: devs, I admire work you did and thank you for keeping arch very boring distro, I can finally concentrate on my work

jordi · 2009-01-18 13:15:51

You just need to give yourself some challenges. For example: Don't have /boot mounted while updating the kernel. Or symlink /lib/modules/2.6.28-ARCH/ to /lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH just to see what happens.

Also heard from friends that they like to mix up rm -i with rm -f.

You just need to be creative to find some new exciting ways to break your system.

But I guess it is more fun if someone else breaks your system, so you don't know what he did and have a greater challenge fixing it.

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quarkup · 2009-01-18 13:22:39

nothing that a
rm -rf /dev

could'nt do

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.:B:. · 2009-01-18 13:55:46

quarkup wrote:

nothing that a
rm -rf /dev
could'nt do

I guess rebooting pretty much fixes that . Maybe not *everything*, but /dev gets 'populated' at boot.

Edit: I don't know if it wipes any of the data that the files in /dev are holding (e.g. sda etc.), if it does, then of course you have a regular disaster scenario.

Alex[DFR] · 2009-01-18 15:01:52

Well, the system will most likely be unbootable when the files for tty0 and console are not present in /dev. But it can be fixed by booting from live-cd and installing just one package (some of the base group), can't it?)

dusanx · 2009-01-18 15:21:10

Is it possible to start 'pacman -Rsn pacman'? Could be tricky to recover.

Nah, I like it the way it is.

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.:B:. · 2009-01-18 15:44:55

Alex[DFR] wrote:

Well, the system will most likely be unbootable when the files for tty0 and console are not present in /dev. But it can be fixed by booting from live-cd and installing just one package (some of the base group), can't it?)

And a mknod here and there .

fukawi2 · 2009-01-18 23:29:01

echo "id:6:initdefault:" >> /etc/inittab

archlinuxsagi · 2009-01-18 23:58:20

dusanx wrote:

In short: devs, I admire work you did and thank you for keeping arch very boring distro, I can finally concentrate on my work

Yup.. finally.. I found a distro that I am satisfied with. I don't need to compile my own package to stay updated. It is a good community here and the wiki is superb too.

dusanx wrote:

Yesterday I installed arch with LXDE on my wife's Dell laptop and even pcmcia wireless worked flawlessly. Nothing to do there either I guess

Dusanx. How did u do it? Just using the arch installer CD? I am thinking of using larch for my future install on other machines....

dusanx · 2009-01-19 00:04:19

archlinuxsagi wrote:

Dusanx. How did u do it? Just using the arch installer CD? I am thinking of using larch for my future install on other machines....

Yes, everything by the book.

Had to install intel something graphics drivers.
hwd did almost good job, had to change xorg.conf a bit.
Added two lines .sh to connect wireless to encrypted house network.

That's all

archlinuxsagi · 2009-01-19 00:10:27

dusanx wrote:

hwd did almost good job, had to change xorg.conf a bit.

You can just delete xorg.conf and use Xorg input hotplugging. Just remember to start hal daemon though.

dusanx · 2009-01-19 00:16:56

archlinuxsagi wrote:

dusanx wrote:
hwd did almost good job, had to change xorg.conf a bit.
You can just delete xorg.conf and use Xorg input hotplugging. Just remember to start hal daemon though.

Did that at first and got some weird x lock, had to hard reset PC. I can look at what I changed if you want (need to turn laptop on first).

archlinuxsagi · 2009-01-19 00:20:20

dusanx wrote:

Did that at first and got some weird x lock, had to hard reset PC. I can look at what I changed if you want (need to turn laptop on first).

It is ok.. Should start another thread for this. I don't want to break the momentum/spirit of Archlinux is very boring thread. :-)

celthias · 2009-01-19 03:56:08

dusanx wrote:

...because devs did such a great job
My arch setup is very stable for a months now. I have tried several DE and WM combinations and kept XMonad permanently as it looks like. There is nothing for me to tweak, updates are routine process, everything works... boring I tell you No new versions to set (with backup-kill everything-setup new version-see what works steps), no waiting for bugfixes -- nothing to do here.
Yesterday I installed arch with LXDE on my wife's Dell laptop and even pcmcia wireless worked flawlessly. Nothing to do there either I guess.
In short: devs, I admire work you did and thank you for keeping arch very boring distro, I can finally concentrate on my work

Pay someone to hit your hands with a ruler whenever you go to use the terminal, that should mix things up a bit

archlinuxsagi · 2009-01-19 04:34:00

mmm.
To break arch,
install the base libs such as glib from svn without using PKGBUILD..
rename some of the files from sbin..
mess up /etc/rc.sysinit . :-)

MetalheadGautham · 2009-01-19 10:16:36

Baaah... go learn some new programming language or learn to use some new software like KompoZer, GIMP or Blender if you need something to do.

You could also be doing several things to help the community, the easiest thing for helping arch would be to enable experimental and community repositories.

Time is a limited resource. Please do not waste it.

chillu · 2009-01-19 11:42:23

jordi wrote:

You just need to give yourself some challenges. For example: Don't have /boot mounted while updating the kernel. Or symlink /lib/modules/2.6.28-ARCH/ to /lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH just to see what happens.
Also heard from friends that they like to mix up rm -i with rm -f.
You just need to be creative to find some new exciting ways to break your system.
But I guess it is more fun if someone else breaks your system, so you don't know what he did and have a greater challenge fixing it.

Or just help someone around with their problems here

PJ · 2009-01-19 11:52:56

This thread reminds me of an older thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=40811

If you really want something to do then this page might be a good start: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mutualism_Arch

dusanx · 2009-01-19 12:03:43

PJ wrote:

This thread reminds me of an older thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=40811
If you really want something to do then this page might be a good start: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mutualism_Arch

Thanks, never knew about that thread

I do love stable and boring arch, don't want to break my system for fun, develop software since '90, help as much as I can. Back to original topic, please devs keep it boring

PJ · 2009-01-19 13:34:08

dusanx wrote:

develop software since '90, help as much as I can.

I try to do it as well, I am working on a hobby project which in time will be released as open source. Besides that, I have worked as a software developer since 2007.

dusanx wrote:

please devs keep it boring

I have to agree on that.

archlinuxsagi · 2009-01-20 01:33:46

dusanx wrote:

Back to original topic, please devs keep it boring

Sometimes. Boring can be no fun.. However, I love boring in such a way that the distro is stable.

Arch do bring new exciting technologies and features though. Ext4 and especially Xorg Input Hotplugging etc.
I was so hook up on Xorg input Hotpluggging that me starting creating larch livecds to test on various PCs.

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