Arch Devs: Regarding 64bit Flash support?

Skripka · 2010-06-15 15:49:52

Adobe has officially dropped support for 64bit Flash for the time being:

Adobe wrote:

We have temporarily closed the Labs program of Flash Player 10 for 64-bit Linux, as we are making significant architectural changes to the 64-bit Linux Flash Player and additional security enhancements. We are fully committed to bringing native 64-bit Flash Player for the desktop by providing native support for Windows, Macintosh, and Linux 64-bit platforms in an upcoming major release of Flash Player....

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flas … 64bit.html

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news … ersion.ars

Which, considering the 64bit Flash Alpha was in testing almost as long as GMail-could mean we don't get it back until E18 comes out. What are you guys going to do? From what I've been reading, 32bit Flash with a pluginwrapper is broken on Webkit-based browsers.

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wonder · 2010-06-15 16:03:59

same thing that we did before a native x86_64 plugin existed. we are dropping it

Ramses de Norre · 2010-06-15 16:05:51

To AUR or community? And is there a viable alternative in the repos?

zodmaner · 2010-06-15 16:05:55

Skripka wrote:

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From what I've been reading, 32bit Flash with a pluginwrapper is broken on Webkit-based browsers.

Eh... Like I've said in this thread, 32bit Flash with nspluginwrapper works with Chromium and surf (both of which are Webkit-based browser) just fine. What Webkit browser are you having trouble with?

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Skripka · 2010-06-15 16:06:21

delete pls

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wonder · 2010-06-15 16:07:18

Skripka wrote:

wonder wrote:
same thing that we did before a native x86_64 plugin existed. we are dropping it
Even though it means Flash is broken (and unusable) on Webkit browsers?

yes. what can WE do? is closed source, we can't do anything.

zodmaner · 2010-06-15 16:22:45

Ramses de Norre wrote:

To AUR or community? And is there a viable alternative in the repos?

The current alternatives to proprietary 64bit flashplugin are:

1. gnash (Which I think only support up to Flash version 9 or something)
2. Use 32bit Firefox and 32bit Flash via 32bit chroot
3. Use 32bit Flash with 64bit Firefox through nspluginwrapper

Personally, I would go with the 3rd option, using 32bit plugin and nspluginwrapper. It's not the perfect solution to our problem (heck, let just call it a workaround), but it works well enough for me and easier to maintain then 32bit chroot.

Again please read this thread for more discussion on how to get 32bit Flash and nspluginwrapper working and how it performs as well as its known problems.

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GogglesGuy · 2010-06-15 16:57:10

zodmaner wrote:

Ramses de Norre wrote:
To AUR or community? And is there a viable alternative in the repos?
The current alternatives to proprietary 64bit flashplugin are:
1. gnash (Which I think only support up to Flash version 9 or something)
2. Use 32bit Firefox and 32bit Flash via 32bit chroot
3. Use 32bit Flash with 64bit Firefox through nspluginwrapper
Personally, I would go with the 3rd option, using 32bit plugin and nspluginwrapper. It's not the perfect solution to our problem (heck, let just call it a workaround), but it works well enough for me and easier to maintain then 32bit chroot.
Again please read this thread for more discussion on how to get 32bit Flash and nspluginwrapper working and how it performs as well as its known problems.

What about lightspark? Anyone tried it already?

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark

zodmaner · 2010-06-15 17:03:32

Never heard of that one before. Will try it out and see how it goes. Thanks for the head up, GogglesGuy!

EDIT: It's already in AUR: lightspark-git

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flamelab · 2010-06-15 17:06:11

Lightspark has potential, but is currently (for now) problematic in a weird way: it has problem on detecting fonts and it demands Pulseaudio.

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Anonymo · 2010-06-15 18:23:16

Have you tried this package?

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18644

scio · 2010-06-15 20:10:28

Chromium (current) and Chrome dev both have built in flash support, has anyone tried them on x64 to see if they dropped it too? I've been running chrome dev on my i686 without a separate flash package for quite a while now.

nstoyanov · 2010-06-15 20:37:19

Are there any drawbacks whatsoever to using nspluginwrapper and Firefox?

tesjo · 2010-06-15 20:51:26

@scio Google never bundled flash in Chrome for 64 bit linux. http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.co … te_30.html

@nstoyanov I would favor the option of nspluginwrapper. I've been running it for a couple months since hulu quit working with 64bit flash, and have had no problems with firefox or chromium. Only drawback I see is having to install the 32bit libs just for flash.

nstoyanov · 2010-06-15 20:53:57

tesjo wrote:

@scio Google never bundled flash in Chrome for 64 bit linux. http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.co … te_30.html
@nstoyanov I would favor the option of nspluginwrapper. I've been running it for a couple months since hulu quit working with 64bit flash, and have had no problems with firefox or chromium. Only drawback I see is having to install the 32bit libs just for flash.

Sweet, I was actually wondering whether hulu would work smoothly this way...

Thank you! I am going to fetch it from AUR.

killajoe · 2010-06-15 21:39:26

No prob for me nspluginwrapper+32bit Flash with 64bit chromium and firefox works better as flashplugin64

But no need for it... only for my little daughter to use kidszui with...

eric · 2010-06-15 22:41:27

zodmaner wrote:

Eh... Like I've said in this thread, 32bit Flash with nspluginwrapper works with Chromium and surf (both of which are Webkit-based browser) just fine. What Webkit browser are you having trouble with?

As far as I know the newest version of flashplugin crashes webkit browsers that use Qt's webkit (konqueror, rekonq and arora). See also this thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=98929.

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sand_man · 2010-06-15 23:27:49

Sounds like a GREAT time for everyone to ween themselves off flash entirely.
By the time they release an updated x86_64 version, we won't want it anymore

kalpik · 2010-06-16 14:57:44

I installed the 32 bit plugin via nspluginwrapper, but I've got no sound.. I'm running OSS..

beelzebub · 2010-06-16 18:27:57

kalpik wrote:

I installed the 32 bit plugin via nspluginwrapper, but I've got no sound.. I'm running OSS..

hi...i just installed nspluginwrapper-flash-prerelease and it says

Optional dependencies for nspluginwrapper-flash-prerelease
lib32-libflashsupport-oss: for OSS users who have no sound after install

I hope it helps

Cerebral · 2010-06-16 19:05:45

We've got three threads discussing x86-64 flash. Please see

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=98904

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