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Hi,
After I Syu'd today, flash videos/applets in all browsers have become non interactive e.g. the buttons don't work. Sometimes they work, but for the most part clicking on them shows the click animation, but the action isn't carried out. Browsers I've tried are Firefox/Chrome/Opera, happens on all websites. Would appreciate any help.
Updated packages today:
[2009-10-13 08:59] starting full system upgrade
[2009-10-13 09:08] upgraded glib2 (2.20.4-1 -> 2.22.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:08] upgraded libbonobo (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:08] upgraded atk (1.26.0-1 -> 1.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:08] upgraded pango (1.24.5-1 -> 1.26.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gtk2 (2.16.5-1 -> 2.18.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded at-spi (1.26.0-1 -> 1.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] installed eggdbus (0.5-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] installed polkit (0.94-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded consolekit (0.3.0-5 -> 0.3.1-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gconf (2.26.2-3 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libsigc++2.0 (2.2.3-1 -> 2.2.4.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded glibmm (2.20.1-1 -> 2.22.1-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gnome-desktop (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gnome-doc-utils (0.16.1-1 -> 0.18.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gnome-keyring (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded pygobject (2.18.0-1 -> 2.20.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded pygtk (2.14.1-4 -> 2.16.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gnome-vfs (2.24.1-2 -> 2.24.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libgnome (2.26.0-2 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libbonoboui (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libgnomeui (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gnome-python (2.26.1-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gtk-engines (2.18.2-1 -> 2.18.4-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded pangomm (2.24.0-1 -> 2.26.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gtkmm (2.16.0-1 -> 2.18.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gtksourceview2 (2.6.2-1 -> 2.8.1-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded gucharmap (2.26.3.1-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libxklavier (3.9-2 -> 4.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libgnomekbd (2.26.0-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libgphoto2 (2.4.6-2 -> 2.4.6-3)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libgtop (2.26.1-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libsoup (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libunique (1.0.8-1 -> 1.1.2-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded libwebkit (1.1.10-2 -> 1.1.15.1-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded openssh (5.2p1-1 -> 5.3p1-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded poppler (0.10.7-2 -> 0.12.0-1)
[2009-10-13 09:09] upgraded poppler-glib (0.10.7-1 -> 0.12.0-1)
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Seen this once. Had to do with Compiz.
Setting Up a Scripting Environment | Proud donor to wikipedia - link
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Don't have Compiz installed - using wmii.
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Wait for a flashplugin update, use a free alternative or downgrade gtk2:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16605
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If it helps, I have the following GTK installed:
local/gtk2 2.18.2-1
The GTK+ Toolkit (v2)
I do NOT use testing and I can click the buttons on youtube that the bug report says doesn't work. I am on x86_64, but have a 32-bit machine at work I can try tomorrow if that is an issue -- though yesterday it was working just fine. Is there anything I can list from my packages or something that may help? Oh, I am also running Compiz on Gnome 2.28 and am using Firefox.
Matt
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yes, i have the same problem. i am using xfce4.
it should caused by gtk 2.18. but use different window manager have different results.
like xfwm, openbox will not have such problem.
BTW: before upgrade, i can switch workspace by turn the wheel even upon conky, but now i can't do it upon conky, other emply space on desktop is still ok.
PS: i also got mouse grab/ungrap problem with vmware. seems gtk 2.18 really changed a lot.
Last edited by jarryson (2009-10-14 14:25:06)
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Thanks a lot for the info guys - I'd rather get flashplugin working than switch so am going to try downgrading gtk.
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Same problem. I just downgraded gtk2, and it worked fine.
Ørjan Pettersen
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Wait for a flashplugin update...
Wasn't the last update like 10 months ago? I think I'll downgrade too. Thanks for info.
Setting Up a Scripting Environment | Proud donor to wikipedia - link
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Hmm... if you installed GTK+ 2.16 into a separate folder, could LD_PRELOAD allow you to force Firefox to use GTK+ 2.16?
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I checked to see if flashplugin (64bit) was having problems on my system after reading this thread and sure enough stuff like pausing wasn't working on any site. I used it as an opportunity to try gnash again, so I un-installed flashplugin. gnash still isn't good enough to use even for my limited Flash use, so I got rid of it and reinstalled flashplugin. Everything works correctly wherever I tried it. Hmmm?
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I checked to see if flashplugin (64bit) was having problems on my system after reading this thread and sure enough stuff like pausing wasn't working on any site. I used it as an opportunity to try gnash again, so I un-installed flashplugin. gnash still isn't good enough to use even for my limited Flash use, so I got rid of it and reinstalled flashplugin. Everything works correctly wherever I tried it. Hmmm?
I can have the flash buttons working with gtk2-2.16.5-1, but not with 2.6.18.2-1 or 2.6.18.3-1. Reinstalling flashplugin doesn't seem to help. What gtk2 version are you running?
Edit: x86_64
Last edited by sehnpaa (2009-10-20 21:25:11)
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Reinstalling doesn't work here, either. Downgraded to 2.16.5-1 for now. x86_64.
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skottish wrote:I checked to see if flashplugin (64bit) was having problems on my system after reading this thread and sure enough stuff like pausing wasn't working on any site. I used it as an opportunity to try gnash again, so I un-installed flashplugin. gnash still isn't good enough to use even for my limited Flash use, so I got rid of it and reinstalled flashplugin. Everything works correctly wherever I tried it. Hmmm?
I can have the flash buttons working with gtk2-2.16.5-1, but not with 2.6.18.2-1 or 2.6.18.3-1. Reinstalling flashplugin doesn't seem to help. What gtk2 version are you running?
Edit: x86_64
I'm using 2.18.3 from extra. I just tried again right now and controls are working. I seldom use anything Flash, so these tests are just quickly checking out stuff. I may (must?) be just getting lucky.
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sehnpaa wrote:skottish wrote:I checked to see if flashplugin (64bit) was having problems on my system after reading this thread and sure enough stuff like pausing wasn't working on any site. I used it as an opportunity to try gnash again, so I un-installed flashplugin. gnash still isn't good enough to use even for my limited Flash use, so I got rid of it and reinstalled flashplugin. Everything works correctly wherever I tried it. Hmmm?
I can have the flash buttons working with gtk2-2.16.5-1, but not with 2.6.18.2-1 or 2.6.18.3-1. Reinstalling flashplugin doesn't seem to help. What gtk2 version are you running?
Edit: x86_64
I'm using 2.18.3 from extra. I just tried again right now and controls are working. I seldom use anything Flash, so these tests are just quickly checking out stuff. I may (must?) be just getting lucky.
2.18.3 does fix it in some cases, but youtube is still broken for me. I'm not sure what the exact conditions are as I tested only a few videos until I encountered the bug again, but it seems that the embedded player works, but HD videos don't. It's still not fixed, though, so I downgraded again.
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Little workaround for current version of Flash and GTK and Firefox: i want to interact with Youtube videos (plau, pause, etc.) i need to rightclick the Flash video (context menu visible) and then i need to left klick twice (a bit faster than an ordinary doubleclick) at the position i want to click.
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Little workaround for current version of Flash and GTK and Firefox: i want to interact with Youtube videos (plau, pause, etc.) i need to rightclick the Flash video (context menu visible) and then i need to left klick twice (a bit faster than an ordinary doubleclick) at the position i want to click.
Thanks for this. I only have this problem occasionally, so it's nice to have a quick "fix" when it shows up!
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The above workaround works for Opera as well.
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Hi, same problem here, can anybody explain to me how to downgrade gtk2, thanks in advance...
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Hi, same problem here, can anybody explain to me how to downgrade gtk2, thanks in advance...
If you've got the packages cached (in /var/cache/pacman/pkg) you can reinstall them with pacman -U, though you'll need to determine what to downgrade via trial and error. If you don't have them cached, use the Arch Rollback Machine (http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-10-12/os/x86_64/ or http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-10-12/os/i686/ being the last day that gtk2 worked with Flash) to find the packages you need. When I downgraded my packages, I had to fetch 26 individual packages, the majority for gnome/gtk, as well as applications that depend on them, like Firefox.
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Work around does it for me too. I wonder when this will be fixed.
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Work around does it for me too. I wonder when this will be fixed.
i hope soon enough, because it's annoying as hell.
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And thank you Dirk Soldier... phew.
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I was reading the Flash Plugin Bug and Issue Management system. On Bug #FP-2933 one of the Flash developers recommends the following:
% export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
Apparently, this new gtk feature can be toggled in such a way that it does not interfere with Flash. It seems that if you start firefox like this:
% GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 firefox
the flash/>=gtk2.18 mouse clicking and keyboard interaction problem disappears. I recommend doing so until the Flash Linux plugin is fixed for gtk2.18.
Russ
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upvote on:
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
thanks Infracephas
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