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#151 2014-07-03 09:39:35

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

stevenhoneyman wrote:
karol wrote:
stevenhoneyman wrote:

oh NO! I've just found out that 'scrot' was abandoned in 2003 yikes



Is there an actively maintained alternative around? Not including the handful of "scrot + spelling mistake fix patch" github projects!

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/maim/ ?

Thanks - will give it a try smile

...hmmm

$ maim -s
No file specified, using /home/steven/screenshot.png
X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
  Major opcode of failed request:  33 (X_GrabKey)
  Serial number of failed request:  15
  Current serial number in output stream:  16
Either the user canceled the query for selection, or slop failed to run properly. Canceling screenshot. Is slop installed?
$ slop
X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
  Major opcode of failed request:  33 (X_GrabKey)
  Serial number of failed request:  15
  Current serial number in output stream:  16

...should have read the instructions I guess tongue "maim -s -nkb" works

You might interested in this script: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/repscrot/

It sports auto-incrementing scrot numbering and time stamps can be enabled if you wish.

Depends on imagemagick and xdotool.

It scrots the current active window.

I would recommend binding it to a shortcut.

(Shameless selfpromotion I guess.)

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#152 2015-02-08 19:06:17

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

This, the 2006 version, was lurking in a subdirectory of files restored from backup ages ago.

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#153 2015-02-08 19:50:33

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

gxmame

Simple, Elegant, IT JUST WORKED

Plus (much) older versions of MAME, when it wasn't yet a resource hungry beast

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#154 2015-02-08 20:23:32

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

CrunchBang
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#155 2015-02-08 20:57:39

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

CrunchBang
sad

Wow.  That is sad.  Crunchbang is one of the main reasons I was ever able to get into linux at all.  It was the first distro I really got into.


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#156 2015-02-08 21:01:24

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Isn't CrunchBang only a pre-configured debian? Shouldn't be too hard to build a script which converts a minimal debian install into what CrunchBang is at the moment.

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#157 2015-02-08 21:07:33

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Gadileth wrote:

Isn't CrunchBang only a pre-configured debian? Shouldn't be too hard to build a script which converts a minimal debian install into what CrunchBang is at the moment.

Yes, that's why @corenomial has called it a day.

With CrunchBang though, it was all about the community.


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#158 2015-02-08 21:21:42

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

It would be quite easy for anyone who knows what they are doing.  But newcomers to linux would have a hard time with this.  And - while some might disagree - I believe the big DE-heavy distros that are marketted to linux newcomers set them up to *not* learn about their system.

This 'pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' mentality is the main reason I dislike the major proprietary OSes out there.  The price is just a distant secondary issue.  Many of the big-DE newbie-friendly linux distros strike me as not much different from Windows or OSX - the same, just free.  Crunchbang was one of a few options that was newbie friendly, yet encouraged learning and understanding.


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#159 2015-02-08 22:17:54

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Trilby wrote:

It would be quite easy for anyone who knows what they are doing.  But newcomers to linux would have a hard time with this.  And - while some might disagree - I believe the big DE-heavy distros that are marketted to linux newcomers set them up to *not* learn about their system.

This 'pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' mentality is the main reason I dislike the major proprietary OSes out there.  The price is just a distant secondary issue.  Many of the big-DE newbie-friendly linux distros strike me as not much different from Windows or OSX - the same, just free.  Crunchbang was one of a few options that was newbie friendly, yet encouraged learning and understanding.

I'm sure this isn't new to you, but I think it's only fair to refer readers to the the the law of leaky abstractions, as a way to reinforce your point.

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#160 2015-02-11 02:44:15

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

I'm sure this isn't new to you, but I think it's only fair to refer readers to the the the law of leaky abstractions, as a way to reinforce your point.

Nice link…I'm also fond of this gem from the BSD fortune cookies (in regards to high-level programming languages in particular):

The work [of software development] is becoming far easier (i.e. the tools
we're using work at a higher level, more removed from machine, peripheral
and operating system imperatives) than it was twenty years ago, and because
of this, knowledge of the internals of a system may become less accessible.
We may be able to dig deeper holes, but unless we know how to build taller
ladders, we had best hope that it does not rain much.
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#161 2015-02-14 19:32:32

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

And I would really like KTechLab working on Arch out-of-the-box...

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#162 2015-02-14 20:14:02

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Trilby wrote:

Crunchbang was one of a few options that was newbie friendly, yet encouraged learning and understanding.

Crunchbang was my distro before I made it to Arch. I switched after reading a thread talking about an Archbang, which was long before the distrolet by the same name was made. The idea was building a #! like desktop on top of Arch. Since #! was basically a naked Ubuntu with Openbox, tint2 and conky, it turned out to be quite trivial.

Funny sidenote, while I had promised the community I'd brag about this, I never did, so maybe I should now: At some point in history, I was some sort of local celebrity at the #! forums. /brag

EDIT: Hilarious. When I search for "awebb crunchbang", I find a number of my posts linked (like ]this one), commented, thanked for on other web sites. I was not aware my loose tongue had given me so much attention. I should have become a Youtube star. Ah, dem #! memories!

MORE EDIT: Good moments were also the regular "hey, don't I know you from #!?" moments here on the Arch bbs. Sometimes I'm under the impression, that Arch is one big #! refugee camp for the outcasts from the Church of DIY (as opposed to those from the Church of Bundle over at Archbang).

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#163 2015-02-14 20:53:53

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

@Awebb -- they miss you over there smile

I am also a fellow ex-#!er
http://crunchbang.org/forums/profile.php?id=37875


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#164 2015-02-14 22:35:07

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Awebb is ours now. Crunchbang had their chance. tongue


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#165 2015-02-14 23:24:38

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

CrunchBang users are called "Bangers"?? That's kind of cool. smile

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#166 2015-02-14 23:52:27

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

LXDE, they switch to QT5, but I miss the now deprecated (or going to be full) environment, it was a breezie for old machines for those GTK entusiasts.


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#167 2015-02-17 11:49:20

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

For crunchbang lovers, it seems that it has been revived as crunchbang++

http://crunchbangplusplus.org/

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#168 2015-02-17 11:58:48

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Awebb wrote:

Funny sidenote, while I had promised the community I'd brag about this, I never did, so maybe I should now: At some point in history, I was some sort of local celebrity at the #! forums. /brag

Best comment from that thread:

SlowMutant wrote:

I always think of him/her/it as a korean cyborg, but that is OK.

edit: the gender thing

For a long time I was unsure about your and karol's gender wink

Edit: For context regarding the korean cyborg comment, here's Awebb's previous avatar

2661.jpg?m=1283356792

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#169 2015-02-17 19:52:28

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

x33a wrote:

For crunchbang lovers, it seems that it has been revived as crunchbang++

http://crunchbangplusplus.org/

If I may, that is not official and is (by the community) frowned upon (EDIT: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=39033). It is simply a project that got out there quickly, trying to gain fame by using Crunchbang's name (which Corenominal/Philip has stated he doesn't want used in any derivative work). The community is making its own spin in the form of Bunsen Labs Linux.

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#170 2015-02-18 06:30:43

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

@ Unia, that's interesting, I didn't know that the community is making their own derivative.

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#171 2015-02-18 09:31:56

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

x33a wrote:

For a long time I was unsure about your and karol's gender wink

What changed it?

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#172 2015-02-18 10:46:00

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Gusar wrote:
bz1pp3d wrote:

Let's go back to one of the roots! XMMS IMO is the best, i'm using it since i'm in linux world ( ~ 2003)

Hell yeah! I too still continue to use XMMS. I know there's Audacious, but it's not really it.

There's community/qmmp; it can even load xmms / WinAmp skins. Listen to MP3s like it's 1999, literally! smile

And +1 for WindowMaker, my preferred window manager on FreeBSD. I've even used it on Arch occasionally.

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#173 2015-02-18 19:52:33

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Awebb wrote:
x33a wrote:

For a long time I was unsure about your and karol's gender wink

What changed it?

We ... errr ... I mean ... well ...

I'm afraid it's not the right place to talk about how who found out what ;-)

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#174 2015-02-18 20:32:50

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Bmpanel2 & apparently scrot even though I just found out with this thread that it was abandoned years ago. They both still work just fine. I'm currently using them both on my Openbox setup.

I almost added Openbox to this list since I hadn't noticed any commits since December 2013, but I decided to check their github page for the first time in a while and noticed a new one in November of 2014. That's a relief. OPENBOX MUST NEVER DIE!!!  smile

Oh, and if we're talking dead distros, I'd add SolusOS and Fuduntu (despite the terrible name) to that list. I enjoyed both of those projects. I would have loved to have seen them migrate to MATE and kept it going.


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#175 2015-02-18 20:43:22

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Re: Favorite dead open source project?

Mr_ED-horsey wrote:

I almost added Openbox to this list since I hadn't noticed any commits since December 2013, but I decided to check their github page for the first time in a while and noticed a new one in November of 2014.

The last release of Openbox was over a year ago? Wow. It seems like just yesterday that I got so mad at the developers for making the "Smart Placement" incredibly stupid. hmm

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