[SOLVED]Problems with starting X (KDE)

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 15:54:09

Well, have been using Ubuntu for quite a while now, and recently decided to try out Arch Linux with KDE. I think I have done the installation quite correctly by following the offcial guide, I did'nt activate the KDM because I wanted to use the text-based sign in. So when I boot up Arch and I enter my login and password and do:

$  startx kde

I get a black screen with a pink underscore up in the left corner of the screen, nothing more happens exept if I press any key I can hear the login sound of KDE. Nothing more happens, I think might be a problem with my screen/resolution configuration what do you think?

Last edited by Farsk1 (2010-08-14 22:20:04)

Nagian · 2010-08-14 15:56:47

You should uncomment the "exec startkde" line in the .xinitrc of your home-folder, and start the GUI with "startx" only.

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 16:03:11

Well that's weird, because when the guide asked me too uncomment the "exec startkde" in the /home/havar/.xinitrc (havar is my username) I opened the file with "nano -w /home/havar/.xinitrc, the file was completely empty so the guide asked me to add "exec startkde" if it was'nt already present, and I did so. Now when i open the file the only thing in /home/havar/.xinitrc is the line with "exec startkde". There's is something REALLY wrong here but i don't know what.

Stephanie · 2010-08-14 16:28:53

Hi

I'm pretty new to Linux and not sure if I can help but when I installed SLim I had to create a new .xinitrc first cause mine was empty too.
From the SLim-article in the wiki:

If you do not have have a ~/.xinitrc file, you can use the skeleton file by:
$ cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~

Stephanie

toad · 2010-08-14 16:32:26

best check the beginner's guide in the wiki

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 16:42:18

Ok, I followed the advice from Stephanie and uncommented the "exec startkde", now my .xinitrc contains:

#!/bin/sh
#~/.xinitrc
#
#Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)

# exec gnome-session
exec startkde
# exec startxfce4
# ...or the Window Manager of your choice

But I still have the same problem as i mentioned earlier.

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Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 16:45:45

toad wrote:

best check the beginner's guide in the wiki

I did so, the installation seems to be completed without any problems, exept this one. I've been lookin all over Google,the wiki and KDE forums but I haven't found anything that can help me with this.

cesura · 2010-08-14 17:07:43

1) What video card do you have?
2) What video driver are you using?
3) Do you have KMS enabled or disabled?

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 17:22:44

itsbrad212 wrote:

1) What video card do you have?
2) What video driver are you using?
3) Do you have KMS enabled or disabled?

1. Intel Corp. Mobile 4 Series integrated graphics, This is a notebook PC.
2. Only the default drivers, the guide said i usually didn't need any more drivers, exept for 3D acceleration etc., but i was planning on installing them later on.
3. KMS,huh?

Edit: it's a Lenovo G530 4446

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fsckd · 2010-08-14 17:41:00

KMS probably enabled by default. Try turning it off and see what happens.

What default drivers, xf86-video-intel?

Also, what does
pacman -Q kdebase-workspace
give?

Mr.Elendig · 2010-08-14 17:45:51

fsckd wrote:

KMS probably enabled by default. Try turning it off and see what happens.

Bad idea: http://www.archlinux.org/news/484/

cesura · 2010-08-14 17:48:28

Farsk1 wrote:

itsbrad212 wrote:
1) What video card do you have?
2) What video driver are you using?
3) Do you have KMS enabled or disabled?

1. Intel Corp. Mobile 4 Series integrated graphics, This is a notebook PC.
2. Only the default drivers, the guide said i usually didn't need any more drivers, exept for 3D acceleration etc., but i was planning on installing them later on.
3. KMS,huh?
Edit: it's a Lenovo G530 4446

You need to have xf86-video-intel installed. Then, if you're using an xorg.conf, run X -configure and copy the new xorg.conf to /etc/X11

Also, you can read about KMS here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KMS

And specifically Intel KMS here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Int … Setting.29

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Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 17:51:17

KMS is enabled

I did'nt install any drivers, so that might be a problem, I was hoping that i could do that when i had the GUI up and running, but I see now that I was probably wrong about that. I'll do that right away and post the output.

The output from: "pacman -Q kdebase-workspace":
kdebase-workspace 4.4.5-1

cesura · 2010-08-14 18:00:46

Farsk1 wrote:

...I was hoping that i could do that when i had the GUI up and running...

Graphics drivers do more than just 3D acceleration. They are needed to simply start the most basic X window session!

toad · 2010-08-14 18:04:15

Okay, so you don't want a login manager like kdm, lxdm, slim, gdm, blablabla but start X from CLI. You adapted your ~.xinitrc accordingly, log in and type startx (not startx kde!) and nothing happens. Does that sum it up so far? If so, what do the logs say?

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 18:44:27

itsbrad212 wrote:

You need to have xf86-video-intel installed. Then, if you're using an xorg.conf, run X -configure and copy the new xorg.conf to /etc/X11

I installed the xf86-video-intel driver now, but after that I hade the same problem still. I tried to configure X.
This is the output of the "Xorg -configure"-command:

X.Org X Server 1.8.1.902 (1.8.2 RC 2)
Release Date: 2010-06-21
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operation System: Linux 2.6.34-ARCH i686
Current Operating System: Linux myhost 2.6.34-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 10 21:38:22 CEST 2010 i686
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda1 ro
Build Date: 21 June 2010 11:54:27AM

Current version of pixman: 0.18.2
               Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
               To make sure you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
               (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informal,
               (WW)warning,(EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Aug 14 20:22:37 2010
List of video drivers:
               intel
               vesa
(++) Using config file: "root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.

This is what my "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf" contains:

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier    "Monitor0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Device0"
    Driver        "vesa" #Choose the driver used for this monitor
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Screen0"  #Collapse Monitor and Device section to Screen section
    Device        "Device0"
    Monitor       "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth  16 #Choose the depth (16||24)
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     16
        Modes     "1280x800_75.00" #Choose the resolution
    EndSubSection
EndSection

All of this was added by me as part of the installation guide, exept i modified the resolution from "1024x768_75.00" to 1280x800_75.00 to make it fit on my screen.

loafer · 2010-08-14 18:47:09

Have you tried with the intel driver rather than vesa?

Farsk1 · 2010-08-14 18:51:05

loafer wrote:

Have you tried with the intel driver rather than vesa?

Hah, I did'nt see that one, I will try it!
And post back.

Edit: IT'S ALIVE!! Finaly, thanks alot guys. I will have tons of fun while using Arch!! See you around if I get any problems.

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cesura · 2010-08-14 19:42:30

Farsk1 wrote:

loafer wrote:
Have you tried with the intel driver rather than vesa?
Hah, I did'nt see that one, I will try it!
And post back.
Edit: IT'S ALIVE!! Finaly, thanks alot guys. I will have tons of fun while using Arch!! See you around if I get any problems.

Glad you got it working Could you please append [SOLVED] to the title of the thread by editing the first post?

Mr.Elendig · 2010-08-14 20:18:02

You should just remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf file. xorg usually does a good job at detecting your monitor settings itself.

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