Flash player in multilib is unstable

shaurz · 2010-08-29 23:30:00

I enable the multilib repo and now Firefox disappears several times a day when playing Flash videos (64-bit).

karol · 2010-08-29 23:44:55

shaurz wrote:

I enable the multilib repo and now Firefox disappears several times a day when playing Flash videos (64-bit).

Disappears = crashes? If so, please post some errors from the logs.
What are you using for flash?

graysky · 2010-08-30 00:43:58

Logs or simply start firefox from a shell and copy/paste the output. Also, how are you using flash?

EDIT: Nice, apparently multilib contains the 32-bit dlls needed for flashplugin 10.1.82.76 and it works on x86_64:

# powerpill -S flashplugin

:: The following packages will be downloaded:
   [multilib]
     flashplugin-10.1.82.76-3 lib32-atk-1.30.0-2 lib32-cairo-1.8.10-2 lib32-curl-7.21.1-2
     lib32-db-4.8.26-4 lib32-glib2-2.24.1-2 lib32-gnutls-2.8.6-3 lib32-gtk2-2.20.1-3
     lib32-heimdal-1.3.3-2 lib32-libcups-1.4.4-4 lib32-libgcrypt-1.4.6-2 lib32-libgpg-error-1.9-3
     lib32-libjpeg-8.0.2-2 lib32-libpng-1.4.3-2 lib32-libtiff-3.9.4-2 lib32-libxft-2.1.14-2
     lib32-libxi-1.3.2-2 lib32-libxinerama-1.1-2 lib32-ncurses-5.7-4 lib32-nspr-4.8.6-1
     lib32-nss-3.12.7-1 lib32-openssl-1.0.0.a-5 lib32-pango-1.28.1-2 lib32-pcre-8.10-2
     lib32-pixman-0.18.4-1 lib32-readline-6.1.002-2 lib32-sqlite3-3.7.1-1 lib32-xcb-util-0.3.6-2
     nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-3

:: Number of Packages:              29
:: Total Download Size:      16.42 MiB
:: Total Installed Size:     62.91 MiB

Last edited by graysky (2010-08-30 00:58:09)

maxi_jac · 2010-08-30 13:32:52

I confirm it sometimes "crashes" and flash won't never work again if you don't restart Firefox.

hokasch · 2010-08-30 13:52:50

It happens to me very occasionally with particular flashy websites (sic!), firefox is not crashing but the flash elements turn into a dead grey block. Sometimes it helps to reload the tab, sometimes closing it and reopening is needed (ctrl-shift-T), and if that isn't working restarting firefox will do.

That has been going on since I use nspluginwrapper for flash, I can't see any change with the multilib packages. Doesn't really bother me personally, but I guess the best place to file a bug would be with nspluginwrapper directly.

Maybe reducing flash objects to a minimum with flashblock can help a bit.

Foucault · 2010-08-30 15:00:05

hokasch wrote:

It happens to me very occasionally with particular flashy websites (sic!), firefox is not crashing but the flash elements turn into a dead grey block. Sometimes it helps to reload the tab, sometimes closing it and reopening is needed (ctrl-shift-T), and if that isn't working restarting firefox will do.
That has been going on since I use nspluginwrapper for flash, I can't see any change with the multilib packages. Doesn't really bother me personally, but I guess the best place to file a bug would be with nspluginwrapper directly.
Maybe reducing flash objects to a minimum with flashblock can help a bit.

I have the same problem as well. The older native 64bit flash plugin worked fine. With nspluginwrapper sometimes flash applets do not load at all and I just see the gray box. I don't know if it is a problem of firefox+nspluginwrapper or the crappy flash plugin in general but it's annoying now and then.

Banton · 2010-08-30 16:28:51

I just accepted it that flashplugin crashes from time to time, had this problems ever since I use flashplugin with nspluginwrapper. In most of the cases it works for me when i kill npviewer.bin and then reload the webpage.

mrunion · 2010-08-31 01:55:31

Ditto the grey block. I went back to the 64-bit version and blacklisted the ndiswrapper stuff. Flash sucks, but the 64-bit version at least works.

shaurz · 2010-08-31 23:06:48

I just noticed this message when I updated and a new flashplugin package installed:

To use the flash player in firefox, you must set
  dom.ipc.plugins.enabled
to true in about:config. It will crash a lot otherwise.

It was false in my Firefox. I've set it to true, hopefully that will solve the problem!

mrunion · 2010-09-01 00:29:02

If it's not too much trouble, post your results of that experiment, shaurz. I'd be interested in knowing if that worked.

graysky · 2010-09-01 00:43:13

shaurz wrote:

I just noticed this message when I updated and a new flashplugin package installed:
To use the flash player in firefox, you must set
  dom.ipc.plugins.enabled
to true in about:config. It will crash a lot otherwise.
It was false in my Firefox. I've set it to true, hopefully that will solve the problem!

Thanks for pointing that out... dunno how I missed that.

Skripka · 2010-09-01 00:56:13

graysky wrote:

Logs or simply start firefox from a shell and copy/paste the output. Also, how are you using flash?
EDIT: Nice, apparently multilib contains the 32-bit dlls needed for flashplugin 10.1.82.76 and it works on x86_64:

Broken under Opera and Webkit.

brain0 · 2010-09-01 07:22:38

graysky wrote:

shaurz wrote:
I just noticed this message when I updated and a new flashplugin package installed:
To use the flash player in firefox, you must set
  dom.ipc.plugins.enabled
to true in about:config. It will crash a lot otherwise.
It was false in my Firefox. I've set it to true, hopefully that will solve the problem!
Thanks for pointing that out... dunno how I missed that.

Heh, until yesterday, the wrong message was displayed, so many people probably missed it.

brain0 · 2010-09-01 07:23:49

Skripka wrote:

graysky wrote:
Logs or simply start firefox from a shell and copy/paste the output. Also, how are you using flash?
EDIT: Nice, apparently multilib contains the 32-bit dlls needed for flashplugin 10.1.82.76 and it works on x86_64:
Broken under Opera and Webkit.

We had a discussion about Opera's native 32 bit plugin support. This should work now - I have no idea about Webkit. I tested konqueror, firefox and chromium - konqueror is unstable, the other two work just fine.

wonder · 2010-09-01 09:18:08

brain0 wrote:

Skripka wrote:
graysky wrote:
Logs or simply start firefox from a shell and copy/paste the output. Also, how are you using flash?
EDIT: Nice, apparently multilib contains the 32-bit dlls needed for flashplugin 10.1.82.76 and it works on x86_64:
Broken under Opera and Webkit.
We had a discussion about Opera's native 32 bit plugin support. This should work now - I have no idea about Webkit. I tested konqueror, firefox and chromium - konqueror is unstable, the other two work just fine.

midori and epiphany works too

Skripka · 2010-09-01 12:21:30

brain0 wrote:

Skripka wrote:
graysky wrote:
Logs or simply start firefox from a shell and copy/paste the output. Also, how are you using flash?
EDIT: Nice, apparently multilib contains the 32-bit dlls needed for flashplugin 10.1.82.76 and it works on x86_64:
Broken under Opera and Webkit.
We had a discussion about Opera's native 32 bit plugin support. This should work now - I have no idea about Webkit. I tested konqueror, firefox and chromium - konqueror is unstable, the other two work just fine.

Hmm must be a config ussue that is not documented on the Wiki yet.

Konqueror (Webkit), Opera, Rekonq all fail to load the new MultiLib plugin setup hwer. Konqueror (KHTML) works with it.

Using the AUR packages for lib32 flash worked for Opera at least.

pacman flashplugin -S

Seems to work fine, no errors from Pacman. Until I open a browser, then Youtube, and every other Flash site tells me I need to install Flash. Browser is pointed at the right directories for pluginwrapper and plugin.

The following, per the Wiki:

nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

Got me a BUNCH of libpng14.so not found errors with the Multilib flashplugin setup.

Last edited by Skripka (2010-09-01 12:33:11)

deej · 2010-09-01 15:20:47

I find myself with little time for messing-around these days, so for Opera I installed as per the wiki ( http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … bit_System ) for my 64-bit box - don't forget to install nspluginwrapper-debian from AUR, before you try to install nspluginwrapper-flash - and it works a treat.

Deej

mrunion · 2010-09-02 00:55:47

OK, I went home and tried it. The new 32-bit 10.1.x version of flashplugin is utter junk. Open a window that has a flash app in it, and open another window that has another app in it. Refresh one of the windows and the flash app in the window that's NOT refreshing just goes grey. If you want a "real" exampple, go to darkorbit.com and try to play for a few minutes. It'll crash pretty quick.

Flash really is junk, but at least 10.0.x for 64-bit works.

wonder · 2010-09-02 06:47:44

@Skripka @deej you are doing it wrong by using aur builds for flash. get rid of junk from aur (pacman -Qm) especially nspluginwrapper-flash/debian and get rid of the plugin from ~/.mozilla/whatever the path is.

then enable multilib repo and pacman -Syu flashplugin

nothing more, nothing less

Last edited by wonder (2010-09-02 06:50:41)

Primoz · 2010-09-02 09:49:15

I also have this problem, just that it's really hard to pinpoint what and why is it happening.
In Konqueror, flash mostly works, but Youtube has some problems. It sometimes work and sometimes it doesn't. Actually the new YouTube player interface works, but the old one doesn't.
To give you an example chosen at random from YouTube home page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPBwXKgD … re=popular this video works
yet this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJxqNSi … re=popular doesn't.
But all videos work if I change my backend from KHTML to WebKit.

In Firefox AFAIK everything works ; but I'm using firefox-kde-opensuse from AUR.

Anyway it's mildly annoying as sometimes even WebKit doesn't work and I have to use Firefox and it's just confusing why some youtube videos work on both KHTML and WebKit, while others only on WebKit.

firecat53 · 2010-09-02 14:55:53

I found I had problems until I remembered to delete an old npwrapper.libflashplugin.so from my ~/.mozilla/plugins.

Scott

Primoz · 2010-09-02 16:39:12

firecat53 wrote:

I found I had problems until I remembered to delete an old npwrapper.libflashplugin.so from my ~/.mozilla/plugins.
Scott

I don't have this folder... Actually I have this in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and also didn't work...

Also to add to my previously mentioned problems, any embedded YouTube video doesn't work. I'll have to explore other players.
But AFAIK blip.tv is also not working correctly.

Last edited by Primoz (2010-09-02 16:45:39)

brain0 · 2010-09-03 07:58:23

Did you guys read that?

To use the flash player in firefox, you must set
  dom.ipc.plugins.enabled
to true in about:config. It will crash a lot otherwise.

At least for firefox, it helps. As for the rest, I have no idea. Whenever I saw someone having problems so far, it was due to old and broken lib32 packages still being on the system.

mrunion · 2010-09-03 14:32:01

Yup. Read it and done it -- no change. the lib32 flash 10.0 + nswrapperplugin just doesn't work worth a darn on either of my 64-bit machines.

skottish · 2010-09-04 05:07:26

I had a copy of the dead 64 bit version that I used for a bit after it was declared unsafe and it's far more unstable now than it ever was before. I've seen no real difference in between that the multi-lib version. I barely use Flash for anything and having it crash constantly tells me that Arch is moving on and Adobe isn't. Welcome back to alpha Flash.

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