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#1 2010-09-11 23:11:04

aardwolf
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High DPI mice and Linux

Hi,

Last time I plugged a high-dpi mouse in Archlinux, it went way too fast, even when setting all mouse speed related settings in KDE to the lowest. Note: I use KDE 3.5.

I'd like to buy a modern mouse, and all nice mice (such as the Logitech Gaming Mouse G500, and mice from Razer) are high-dpi and often have custom settable dpi.

Which high-dpi (like 1000dpi, 2000dpi or higher), and mice with custom settable dpi, will work reliably on archlinux?

Does the custom dpi setting work under linux at all, or does it only work with windows drivers?

Is Linux able to handle mice with a dpi higher than 200dpi at all, or was this type of mouse never considered so far?

If you have such a mouse, how well does it work for you?

The Logitech Gaming Mouse G500 looks really good to me, except that I only found bad things about it for Linux, and I even found bad reports about some bug in Archlinux with it being reported as keyboard instead of mouse to the USB. Is there any chance at all that this mouse will work on my Archlinux or should I steer away from that mouse?

Note that I don't wish to build a custom kernel, just use the stock one. The mouse should just work.

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#2 2010-09-11 23:16:16

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

Razer mice with adjustable DPI work fine out-of-the-box.   Scroll acceleration doesn't work but the DPI is fine.  Set custom mouse button commands in Windows with the drivers.  Might need to do some fiddling with XBindkeys to get all the buttons.

Razer Lachessis @ 500-4000DPI.

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#3 2010-09-11 23:22:22

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

delete please.

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#4 2010-09-11 23:40:54

aardwolf
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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

Thanks for the report, I'm giving the Razer mice a much better look than the Logitech mice now.

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#5 2010-09-11 23:47:41

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

aardwolf wrote:

Thanks for the report, I'm giving the Razer mice a much better look than the Logitech mice now.

Drivers and hardware are far better quality wise IMHO.  Ergonomics can be much different FYI, depending on the model.

Polling frequency is adjustable as is DPI.  Settings are saved in onboard memory inside the mouse-so once programmed you can use it on any computer/OS and settings are still in there.  The only thing I miss with my Razer from Logitech high-end mice is tilt-wheel scrolling.

Thinking back, I had to use Xbindkeys in Linux to get all the button macros to work, since Linux isn't smart enough to deal with the commands Razers send out.

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#6 2010-09-11 23:48:07

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c049 Logitech, Inc. G5 Laser Mouse

I am using the above mouse with no problems with a stock kernel

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#7 2010-09-12 02:02:18

brebs
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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

aardwolf wrote:

it went way too fast

Of course it did - it's got a high DPI. All decent mice have a high DPI.

I use:
xinput --set-ptr-feedback Mouse 0 84 100

With these in xorg.conf:
Option      "AccelerationScheme"    "lightweight"
Option      "AccelerationProfileAveraging"  "False"
Option      "Softening"                     "False"
Option      "Protocol"          "ExplorerPS/2"

Because I, personally, detest mouse acceleration.

Also, put in your grub kernel options:
usbhid.mousepoll=4
To poll the mouse twice as fast as the default (8). The default is geared towards crappy mouse and slow CPUs.

Some URLs for more info:
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Develo … celeration
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=94003
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88104

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#8 2010-09-12 02:24:40

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

I'd just like to add that I've had my first Razer mouse, a Copperhead, for about two years and I really like it. It was just what I was looking for: high DPI, symmetrical, and wired.

One of my favorite things is the three DPI adjustment buttons that are on the mouse. They don't need any software, so they work just fine in Linux and Haiku.

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#9 2010-09-12 02:28:30

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

My Logitech G5 and G7 mice both work great on Linux and also both have adjustable DPI via hardware buttons. Just have to pass mouse_poll=2 to the usbhid module to get the polling interval right.

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#10 2010-09-13 10:48:19

aardwolf
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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

drcouzelis wrote:

I'd just like to add that I've had my first Razer mouse, a Copperhead, for about two years and I really like it. It was just what I was looking for: high DPI, symmetrical, and wired.

One of my favorite things is the three DPI adjustment buttons that are on the mouse. They don't need any software, so they work just fine in Linux and Haiku.

Yep, I like that too, and therefore ordered the Razer Abyssus

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#11 2010-09-13 14:40:48

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

I'm using a Razer Naga and it works great.  All the buttons even work without any extra setup.


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#12 2010-09-14 15:00:42

aardwolf
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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

lifeafter2am wrote:

I'm using a Razer Naga and it works great.  All the buttons even work without any extra setup.

Do you use it for MMORPG's or something else? smile

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#13 2010-09-14 16:22:06

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

MX518 gaming mouse, old time favorite with adjustable DPI settings through hardware buttons. Works out of the box and is capable of 1600 DPI smile

little old tech but in my opinion still one of, if not the, best value high DPI mice around. Hell even logitech agrees (still listed on their site, regardless of age)

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#14 2010-09-14 17:07:56

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Re: High DPI mice and Linux

aardwolf wrote:
lifeafter2am wrote:

I'm using a Razer Naga and it works great.  All the buttons even work without any extra setup.

Do you use it for MMORPG's or something else? smile

Both actually.  I play WoW and Eve Online for work, but the mouse is more useful for WoW, since there are many more buttons that you need to press.  I also use Blender to do some 3D modeling and animation, and Blender uses numpad for navigation.  So I switch the switch on the bottom of the mouse and use it for numpad navigation as well.


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