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#1 2010-09-29 22:35:14

adan
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[FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

Hi everybody, recently i switched from WinXP to Arch Linux and im loving it!

I had a few problems with the fonts, but now they are looking better:
I installed freetype2-infinality - libxft-cleartype and cairo-cleartype

But i dont like how firefox is looking when im browsing (I notice it more in GMAIL & GOOGLE).

Here are some screens:

Google
screenshotxig.th.png

Gmail (notice how crispy is the gmail logo :S)
screenshot2ju.th.png


Here's how it looks on WinXP:

Google
googlegd.th.jpg

Gmail
gmailr.th.jpg



Please help me, im noob in the fonts area smile.

Adan.

Last edited by adan (2010-10-05 03:17:38)

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#2 2010-09-29 22:52:50

alez
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

Assuming you read the Archwiki Fonts page , did you install ttf-ms-fonts or liberation? Because they're hugely popular on the Internet and if you don't have them you may have such problems. It may be whatever else, though, i'm almost as noob as you big_smile


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#3 2010-09-29 23:09:30

adan
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

alez wrote:

Assuming you read the Archwiki Fonts page , did you install ttf-ms-fonts or liberation? Because they're hugely popular on the Internet and if you don't have them you may have such problems. It may be whatever else, though, i'm almost as noob as you big_smile

Yes i downloaded them, but it still looks ugly :S

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#4 2010-09-29 23:15:24

karol
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

Spam - 1001 massages ...

Do you have anti-aliasing turned on? Do you have the proper dpi for your screen?

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#5 2010-09-29 23:22:43

adan
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

karol wrote:

Spam - 1001 massages ...

Do you have anti-aliasing turned on? Do you have the proper dpi for your screen?

Sincerely i didnt understand the font configuration guide, i dont know how to turn on the anti-aliasing and i dont know what is the DPI.

I have a LCD screen.

Thanks for the response! smile

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#6 2010-09-29 23:39:25

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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.


Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.

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#7 2010-09-29 23:49:17

adan
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

Now I'm more confused than before tongue,

So, this is a firefox problem? Can i fix it via ~/.fonts.conf?

Thanks for the reply!

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#8 2010-09-29 23:57:28

karol
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

I have the current firefox and xulrunner but my fonts look OK, as always.

You can add

Xft.antialias:  true

to your ~/.Xdefaults and reboot X.

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#9 2010-10-04 22:23:59

adan
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

People after a few days of testing, im still having problems with the fonts, my .fonts.conf is :

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="autohint">    <bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting">    <bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">    <const>lcdlight</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">    <const>hintslight</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias">    <bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba">    <const>rgb</const></edit>
</match>

<match target="font">
<test name="pixelsize" qual="any" compare="more"><double>15</double></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit></match>

<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit></match>

<match target="font">
<test name="slant" compare="not_eq"><double>0</double></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit></match>

</fontconfig>

Please help me out here, my fonts looks ugly in websites like gmail and google, too blurry!

Thanks a lot!

Last edited by adan (2010-10-04 22:24:39)

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#10 2010-10-05 01:06:46

skystrife
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

If you *don't* want anti-aliasing, I think this is worth looking at:

http://sharpfonts.co.cc/

(personally I love anti-aliasing and see nothing really wrong with your current font rendering--but the above link should help you make it look "crisp" like in XP)

Last edited by skystrife (2010-10-05 01:06:58)

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#11 2010-10-05 01:28:28

adan
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

Thanks for the reply friend!

I recently changed my fonts to Microsoft style, and i didnt like them, i preferr this one (Anti-Aliasing).

Please can you take a picture of Gmail so i can compare mine with yours? (hide important information)

Thanks!

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#12 2010-11-20 10:08:11

kureikain
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

I have exactly issue, especial on Firefox with Gmail, Facebook!
I re-compile xumrunner-system-cairo on AUR, and it makes Firefox looks nice wink!
Take a notice that compiling xukrunner-system-cairo takes quite long! So, please be patience

Before:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/ … mDB0SFw%3D

After:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/ … qEUuNRI%3D

Last edited by kureikain (2010-11-20 10:09:01)

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#13 2010-11-20 10:23:29

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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

adan wrote:

I had a few problems with the fonts, but now they are looking better:
I installed freetype2-infinality - libxft-cleartype and cairo-cleartype

Do note that freetype2-infinality was designed to work with the *-ubuntu patches, not the *-cleartype patches,


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#14 2010-11-20 15:02:17

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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

I was under the impression that since the Firefox in the main repos wasn't compiled with system cairo, it doesn't respect your local font settings, so nothing you do in .fonts.conf will have any effect. See here, for example. I "solved" this problem by switching to firefox-pgo in AUR, though if someone knew of an easier solution, that'd be great too.

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#15 2010-11-20 18:14:32

thestinger
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Re: [FONTS]Need Google & Gmail screens to compare with mine.

To get the best fonts, you need to use the infinality package (which you are), but you don't have it set up properly.

Unless you really know what you're doing, you should be using the infinality font configuration. There's a link to it in the wiki article, just copy it to /etc/fonts/local.conf and delete your current configuration.

Infinality should not be used with those old -cleartype packages, especially the cairo package (cairo isn't the place for that font stuff). Install vanilla cairo or from the arch repositories or cairo-ubuntu from the AUR (they are the same thing, except the -ubuntu one has a patch that makes GNOME/KDE respect the fontconfig settings), and libxft-lcd (libxft-ubuntu would be fine too) from the AUR.

You also need to use a different firefox package or it won't use your fontconfig settings, as people have said.

Also, the problem with the gmail logo isn't font related (it's an image, not a font). I think you're probably getting the image scaling issue. You need to use the new firefox4.0 beta (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=852826) to fix that.

Last edited by thestinger (2010-11-20 18:18:38)

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